Anabolic Threshold - Do you agree with it?

[hicktown]

If youre not sure what im referring to please check out this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FkaDku8sdo

I just started thinking about this the other day and obviously from reading everyones posts here, using a short ester and doing daily or frequent shots is best for blood levels and side affects. The video makes sense that putting more into your body would propel you to another level but on the other hand i think that ED, Every two days or Every three days makes sense too. At the end of the day i dont know anyone who does one huge shot per week.

Has anyone ever tried it just to see what happens?

[cybrsage]

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The dose and the half-life of the item determines how much is in your blood at any one time. 5 half-lives is the time it takes for an item to be considered decayed fully away. Assume the item has a 7 day half-life:

600mg dose once every 7 days
Start of Week 1: 600mg
Week 2: 600mg + 300mg (which is week one going through its half-life drop) = 900 mg
Week 3: 600mg + 300mg + 150mg = 1050mg
Week 4: 600mg + 300mg + 150mg + 75mg = 1125mg
Week 5: 600mg + 300mg + 150mg + 75mg + 38mg = 1163mg
Any increase after this point is negligible. For all intents and purposes you can say your max amount in the body will be roughly double the dose you inject.


300mg dose once every 3.5 days
Start of Week 1: 300mg
Week 1.5: 300mg + 225mg = 525mg
Week 2: 300mg + 225mg + 150mg = 725mg
Week 2.5: 300mg + 225mg + 150mg + 113mg = 838mg
Week 3: 300mg + 225mg + 150mg + 113mg + 75mg + 51mg = 889mg
Week 3.5: 300mg + 225mg + 150mg + 113mg + 75mg + 51mg + 38mg = 927mg
Week 4: 300mg + 225mg + 150mg + 113mg + 75mg + 51mg + 38mg + 29mg = 956mg
Week 4.5: 300mg + 225mg + 150mg + 113mg + 75mg + 51mg + 38mg + 29mg + 19mg = 975mg
Week 5: 300mg + 225mg + 150mg + 113mg + 75mg + 51mg + 38mg + 29mg + 19mg + 10mg = 985mg
Week 5.5: 300mg + 225mg + 150mg + 113mg + 75mg + 51mg + 38mg + 29mg + 19mg + 10mg + 8mg = 993mg

He appears to be correct. Doing the math, it appears doing the entire 600mg shot once a week (for an ester with a 1 week half-life) will give you 1163mg of the product while dong half the shot twice a week will only give you 993mg of the product. There is a 170mg difference between the two. Now, is that enough to show a difference in your workout results? I personally doubt it, at least at 600mg. If you were to do 1200mg, that would double the difference to 340mg between then and that is a significant difference.

For TRT, I would say to stay on the twice a week shots to smooth out the hormonal roller coaster. For things like Deca and others used, it seems once a week is a better choice...but only for something with a long half life.

[hicktown]

Re: Anabolic Threshold - Do you agree with it?

Hey thanks for replying i thought everyone wouldve had some sort of comment about this method. Im doing the one dose per week to see how it goes right now.

From what you posted at the end of the day its a small difference which is close to the doses im running now.

[gusto77]

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I would also like to hear some More feedback on this.

[jipped genes]

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hmmm, nothing scientific about this. just one guys observations. i guess i don't get it

[guns01]

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not buying it at all. constant stable levels is going to win the race at the end of the day. i would much rather have an over lap of compounds as opposed to spiking and dropping over periods of time. now to knock on his observations. 600mg of say test whatever one shot on monday by the following monday you have say 25-100mg left over when you hit your next hit and i would lean more toward it being 25 of lower when the next shot. ok now enter in 200 split over eod. so now depending on your body and how it process out you may have 100-150 left over or even 50-100. that is going to put you at over 600 at the end of the week most likely. so your levels are most likely going to be much higher at the end of the week going on a more frequent approach. now again every one is different and process faster or slower but by keeping levels more stable i can almost bet that the majority of people are going to see much better results than one hit a wk and allowing their levels to fluctuate big time.

[LittleTom]

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The only real science I've read about tat even comes close to this on TRT and even thats confusing. Some Docs say once a week to keep levels stable and some will do two but thats rare. I dont know how you can really argue the fact that if you do every few days or once a week there will be less in your system then ED. When on cycle I will split it up during the week (two) if its a long ester and if its a short.

[gusto77]

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not buying it at all. constant stable levels is going to win the race at the end of the day. i would much rather have an over lap of compounds as opposed to spiking and dropping over periods of time. now to knock on his observations. 600mg of say test whatever one shot on monday by the following monday you have say 25-100mg left over when you hit your next hit and i would lean more toward it being 25 of lower when the next shot. ok now enter in 200 split over eod. so now depending on your body and how it process out you may have 100-150 left over or even 50-100. that is going to put you at over 600 at the end of the week most likely. so your levels are most likely going to be much higher at the end of the week going on a more frequent approach. now again every one is different and process faster or slower but by keeping levels more stable i can almost bet that the majority of people are going to see much better results than one hit a wk and allowing their levels to fluctuate big time.

That's what I was waiting to hear. Thank you sir.

[animal87]

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Something like Tren E. I bet you would be one irritated fella if you only injected once a week. Fluctuating like that seems like it makes people get emotional for some reason.

[FUZO]

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Ive read this guys Blog and youtube stuff now for years and most of the time he is full of shit buy each of us are different I like the prop EOD shots and my EQ M-W-F SHOTS and Animal is correct the emotionional aspect of it yeah I deal with it

[gusto77]

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Something like Tren E. I bet you would be one irritated fella if you only injected once a week. Fluctuating like that seems like it makes people get emotional for some reason.

Yep I've said it before but I'll say it again. I've only had one real run with tren. It was tren acetate but I did every day injections and was able to work up to a gram a week and most no side effects whatsoever. At least none that actually bothered me

[MOUNTAIN-MAN]

Re: Anabolic Threshold - Do you agree with it?

not buying it at all. constant stable levels is going to win the race at the end of the day. i would much rather have an over lap of compounds as opposed to spiking and dropping over periods of time. now to knock on his observations. 600mg of say test whatever one shot on monday by the following monday you have say 25-100mg left over when you hit your next hit and i would lean more toward it being 25 of lower when the next shot. ok now enter in 200 split over eod. so now depending on your body and how it process out you may have 100-150 left over or even 50-100. that is going to put you at over 600 at the end of the week most likely. so your levels are most likely going to be much higher at the end of the week going on a more frequent approach. now again every one is different and process faster or slower but by keeping levels more stable i can almost bet that the majority of people are going to see much better results than one hit a wk and allowing their levels to fluctuate big time.

AGREED

[MOUNTAIN-MAN]

Re: Anabolic Threshold - Do you agree with it?

not buying it at all. constant stable levels is going to win the race at the end of the day. i would much rather have an over lap of compounds as opposed to spiking and dropping over periods of time. now to knock on his observations. 600mg of say test whatever one shot on monday by the following monday you have say 25-100mg left over when you hit your next hit and i would lean more toward it being 25 of lower when the next shot. ok now enter in 200 split over eod. so now depending on your body and how it process out you may have 100-150 left over or even 50-100. that is going to put you at over 600 at the end of the week most likely. so your levels are most likely going to be much higher at the end of the week going on a more frequent approach. now again every one is different and process faster or slower but by keeping levels more stable i can almost bet that the majority of people are going to see much better results than one hit a wk and allowing their levels to fluctuate big time.

AGREED

[chemicallyengineered]

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Another thing to consider is when you start getting into multicompound stacks. At that point I tend to try and split everything across 3-4 shots a week because I want to make sure every dose has some of everything. Right now I'm using test400, tri-tren200, primo e100 1cc each in a 3cc pin 3xweek. Then in between I have some short esters for preworkout shots-test base, cheque drops(almost out) and primo a. Preworkout shots tend to go in slin pins and in quads, big shots in delts. So for me ed shots are required 5 days a week with 2xday on training days.

[jipped genes]

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I started looking at different articles. i agree with guns. it is a good discussion for sure. but having stability appears to yield better results in the long run. you will get more growth from his method over the time that there is more active hormone generating anabolism but it is more like a spike. by keeping anabolic levels as constant as possible there will not be a pronounced drop off like his method.

he just made some strange observation at the gym and decided this was the determining factor. hell maybe he is right but i do not think so.