Follow Along G's Run to the NA's

[guns01]

Re: Follow Along G's Run to the NA's

today:

legs
10 min stepmill warmup
seated leg curls 90x10/3(warmups) 105x10 120x10 135x10 150x10 165x10 180x10
sl deads 45x10(warmup) 95x8 145x8 195x8 245x8 265x8
banded leg press 90x20 180x20 270x20 360x20 450x20 540x20 540x20 (these were done with the thick heavy orange bands)
squats 185x15 225x15 275x15 315x15 (almost went down on that set of 315. held breath on the last few and got a brutal head ach and almost passed out)
lying leg curls 80x12 100x12(5)(1) second set was 12 straight reps then 5 forced reps and then a 10 sec iso hold with partner pressing against it

done for the day. i am wasted now, that was a brutal brutal workout. my legs are jello, my head hurts and i destroyed my appetite haha. good thing my intra workout shake carries me over for an hour or so cause i dont think i could eat anything right now and keep it down. today is supposed to be a cheat meal day but i honestly dont know if i can get anything bad down. if i do i will update later.


meal 1
16oz top round steak w/a1
2 tbl spn coconut oil
meal 2
protein cakes
intra workout meal
intra workout shake 25g whey hydroslate 150g vitargo
meal 3
16oz ground turkey w/ketchup
8oz sweet potato
meal 4
16oz slow cooker chicken w/cream of mushroom soup
2 cups white rice
meal 5
80g dark matter post workout

[guns01]

Re: Follow Along G's Run to the NA's

should i change my workout routine up till i get my levels up e.g. going heavy, and do you believe doing 200mg/wk of test will help with cutting or is that still mostly wasting my time?

thanks man.

keep the test in, that will put you at just above normal ranges with that dose and it isnt going to hurt anything and will most likely help. i wouldnt change how you are training either. train to your ability and as hard as possible would be my suggestion. now my thought that is coming to mind about you not being able to drop your bodyfat is it could possibly be you have excess estrogen. if you estro is super high it is damn near impossible to get your bf down. may need some blood work to check it or if you arent going to get bloods done i would go with an estro killer like aromasin a dex or letro. in that order of pref for me. if you go the aromasin route start at 25mg for about 3wks then cruise at 12.5mg ed for the remainder. if you go with dex then 1mg eod or e3d. letro is about the same as aromsin but is way more harsh and normally sucks for sex drive and damn near everything else so most only use it as a last resort or an emergency with gyno

[sensitivenips]

Re: Follow Along G's Run to the NA's

that breakdown he gave you is cookie cutter and most of the time while natty will not help you in your muscle retention goal as you drop weight. notice i said weight and not body fat? some people do really well with a higher end carb plan (rare) and some do better with a higher fat plan. you have to find the one that works best for you and your goals and how you feel. quick fix for you would to get nasty and go keto for about 30 days if you need to drop the bf super quick. if not then start with 1.5g -2g of pro per pound then .5-1g of carb per pound and fats should be .5-.8g. that will get you moving back down again but you have to stay tight with it. if you want to go low and slow then go back to the carb cycle i set you up with and keep training the way you were training. being natty doesnt mean you cant hit your goals but it is going to go quite a bit slower. jump on a plan and when you stall out throw in a good fat burner like incinderine or something like that to crank it back up.

should i change my workout routine up till i get my levels up e.g. going heavy, and do you believe doing 200mg/wk of test will help with cutting or is that still mostly wasting my time?

thanks man.

[guns01]

Re: Follow Along G's Run to the NA's

today

back(secondary)
10 min treadmill warmup
one arm bb rows 10x10/3(warmups) 35x10 60x10 85x10 110x10 (last set was pretty freaking heavy)
dual rope cable pullovers 40x10 50x10 60x10 70x10
swiss bar stretch pulldowns 85x10 100x10 120x10 140x10 (grip came in on each set going from wide to close then last set was medium)
reverse one arm pulldowns 50x10 60x10 70x10 60x10

done for the day. great back workout. good not stupid pump and lower back is fresh for legs tomorrow. the swiss bar addition made the pulldowns very comfortable with a great contraction and stretch.


meal 1
16oz top round steak w/a1
2 tbl spn coconut oil
meal 2
protein cakes
intra workout meal
intra workout shake 25g whey hydroslate 150g vitargo
meal 3
16oz ground turkey w/ketchup
8oz sweet potato
meal 4
16oz slow cooker chicken w/cream of mushroom soup
2 cups white rice
meal 5
80g dark matter post workout

[guns01]

Re: Follow Along G's Run to the NA's

hey guns, its been awhile bro. i was scanning through your log here bc im lost again, really dont know how the hell to figure out my bodies chemistry to cut the fat. im at a point now where i just said f it and am doing cardio twice a day. in addition my t levels are sitting around 280, and am looking at getting on in the next 8 weeks at trt dose. i would like to blame it on my low t levels, but then again it could be my diet or who knows maybe its my level of training as the reason why my results are minimal. the only time i saw great results was around april to may when i was using.

i ran into an old buddy at the gym a while ago who told me that i shouldnt be cutting the carbs until im closing in on single digits bf%, that my carb ratio should be higher than my protein intake. i think he broke out the percentages somewhere like 50%carbs, 30%protein, and 20%fats.

im about to go read through my log on the tips you provided in there, but i keep hitting a point where im just wanting to throw in the towel and say screw it. honestly though thats not my mentality, but i cant help thinking im beating a dead horse, and the only thing that keeps me continuing this futile battle is the fact that i want to figure this shit out.

the best percentage ive reached on bf is 12.5%, my goal is 10%. i took a few weeks off for marriage, honeymoon, and then a dam infection so i dont know what im sitting at right now, but if i had to guess i would say maybe 16% @ 205lbs. if you have some time and are interested in guiding ole nips with some more advice let me know. i may start a new log.

that breakdown he gave you is cookie cutter and most of the time while natty will not help you in your muscle retention goal as you drop weight. notice i said weight and not body fat? some people do really well with a higher end carb plan (rare) and some do better with a higher fat plan. you have to find the one that works best for you and your goals and how you feel. quick fix for you would to get nasty and go keto for about 30 days if you need to drop the bf super quick. if not then start with 1.5g -2g of pro per pound then .5-1g of carb per pound and fats should be .5-.8g. that will get you moving back down again but you have to stay tight with it. if you want to go low and slow then go back to the carb cycle i set you up with and keep training the way you were training. being natty doesnt mean you cant hit your goals but it is going to go quite a bit slower. jump on a plan and when you stall out throw in a good fat burner like incinderine or something like that to crank it back up.

[sensitivenips]

Re: Follow Along G's Run to the NA's

hey guns, its been awhile bro. i was scanning through your log here bc im lost again, really dont know how the hell to figure out my bodies chemistry to cut the fat. im at a point now where i just said f it and am doing cardio twice a day. in addition my t levels are sitting around 280, and am looking at getting on in the next 8 weeks at trt dose. i would like to blame it on my low t levels, but then again it could be my diet or who knows maybe its my level of training as the reason why my results are minimal. the only time i saw great results was around april to may when i was using.

i ran into an old buddy at the gym a while ago who told me that i shouldnt be cutting the carbs until im closing in on single digits bf%, that my carb ratio should be higher than my protein intake. i think he broke out the percentages somewhere like 50%carbs, 30%protein, and 20%fats.

im about to go read through my log on the tips you provided in there, but i keep hitting a point where im just wanting to throw in the towel and say screw it. honestly though thats not my mentality, but i cant help thinking im beating a dead horse, and the only thing that keeps me continuing this futile battle is the fact that i want to figure this shit out.

the best percentage ive reached on bf is 12.5%, my goal is 10%. i took a few weeks off for marriage, honeymoon, and then a dam infection so i dont know what im sitting at right now, but if i had to guess i would say maybe 16% @ 205lbs. if you have some time and are interested in guiding ole nips with some more advice let me know. i may start a new log.

[guns01]

Re: Follow Along G's Run to the NA's

I love those kind of pumps except the lower back lol.

doing deads and hypers to failure in the same workout damn. i am telling you i couldnt stand up straight, i couldnt lay on my back, i couldnt lean on something to hold myself up or lay on my stomach. i had to climb in the back of the truck, lay on my side until it eased up a little bit so i could stand up. i actually had to have the mrs drive home because i was so uncomfortable. arms yep felt the same way lol

[animal87]

Re: Follow Along G's Run to the NA's

I love those kind of pumps except the lower back lol.

[guns01]

Re: Follow Along G's Run to the NA's

today:

arms
cable strap pressdowns 100x20/3(warmups)
incline db curls 15x15/2 25x12(15) 25x12(1) 3d set was regular incline curls then i stood up and did hammers to failure. 4th set was regular again then after 12 i did an iso hold at the bottom to failure on each arm.
machine curls 30x15 40x15 50x15 40x15 40x15 40x15 (done with only 30 sec rest between each set)
reverse curls 65x15/5 (same thing 30 sec rest between each set)
straight bar pressdowns 110x30 140x30 150x30(5)(1) 140x30(10)(1) 3d set was straight reps then 5 forced and one iso hold just short of lockout. 4th was the same with 10 forced reps and another iso hold at the bottom
bench dips x11 x9 x8
lying db extensions 25x12 30x12 30x12 (done with 45 sec rest between sets)

done for the day. this was done super fast paced with very very little rest at all. the pump was insane and painful again just like the lower back pump except in the whole arm. one word comes to mind about this session "brutal".



meal 1
16oz top round steak w/a1
2 tbl spn coconut oil
meal 2
protein cakes
intra workout meal
intra workout shake 25g whey hydroslate 150g vitargo
meal 3
16oz ground turkey w/ketchup
8oz sweet potato
meal 4
thursday night football so i may have a large supreme pizza and some cotton candy ice cream.
meal 5
80g dark matter post workout

i dont really have much of a appetite as of right now so the cheat may be put off till tomorrow if i am not feeling it. i am having some sinus respitory issues right now so that could be having an impact on my eating. i have gained about 7-8lbs in the last 2 wks. so i am moving up quite a bit and may add cardio in starting sunday. we will see how it goes and how i feel

[Trixie]

Re: Follow Along G's Run to the NA's

today:

back
10 min treadmill warmup
one arm db rows off incline 40x10/3(warmups) 50x10 65x10 70x10 80x10 (only worked to top 2/3 of this movement focusing on the contraction)
partial stretch pulldowns 120x8 160x8 180x8 140x8
ng low cable rows 100x10 120x10 160x10
rack pulls 185x5 225x5 275x5 315x5 365x5 challenge set 315x12 (wiped out and kind of felt really weak on these today)
reverse grip single arm pulldowns 40x10 50x10 60x10
hypers x23 x21 x20

done for the day. felt kind of weak today and no idea why. the vitargo i am assuming gave me some stupid bad pumps today. so bad that when we got done with the hypers i walked to the truck and i couldnt stand up straight lean at an angle, lay on my back lay on my stomach or anything. i actually laid in the back of the truck for about 10 minutes on my side till some of the pump subsided away. so it is safe to say that i broke my own self off today and then some. i feel pretty good now though haha.


meal 1
16oz top round steak w/a1
2 tbl spn coconut oil
meal 2
protein cakes
intra workout meal
intra workout shake 25g whey hydroslate 150g vitargo
meal 3
16oz ground turkey w/ketchup
8oz sweet potato
meal 4
16oz grilled bbq chicken
8oz plain baked red potato
meal 5
80g dark matter post workout

I liked the way you sweat Nutri-Max in the bed of your truck. Love to watch you killing yourself. No wonder none of us want to let you down, you are the greatest motivation in the earth and heavens.
~Trixie~

[guns01]

Re: Follow Along G's Run to the NA's

today:

back
10 min treadmill warmup
one arm db rows off incline 40x10/3(warmups) 50x10 65x10 70x10 80x10 (only worked to top 2/3 of this movement focusing on the contraction)
partial stretch pulldowns 120x8 160x8 180x8 140x8
ng low cable rows 100x10 120x10 160x10
rack pulls 185x5 225x5 275x5 315x5 365x5 challenge set 315x12 (wiped out and kind of felt really weak on these today)
reverse grip single arm pulldowns 40x10 50x10 60x10
hypers x23 x21 x20

done for the day. felt kind of weak today and no idea why. the vitargo i am assuming gave me some stupid bad pumps today. so bad that when we got done with the hypers i walked to the truck and i couldnt stand up straight lean at an angle, lay on my back lay on my stomach or anything. i actually laid in the back of the truck for about 10 minutes on my side till some of the pump subsided away. so it is safe to say that i broke my own self off today and then some. i feel pretty good now though haha.


meal 1
16oz top round steak w/a1
2 tbl spn coconut oil
meal 2
protein cakes
intra workout meal
intra workout shake 25g whey hydroslate 150g vitargo
meal 3
16oz ground turkey w/ketchup
8oz sweet potato
meal 4
16oz grilled bbq chicken
8oz plain baked red potato
meal 5
80g dark matter post workout

[guns01]

Re: Follow Along G's Run to the NA's

I got unflavored so I could mix my ISO with it it taste ok

yeah that's what i would have went with as well but my sponsor only had it in flavored so that is what i get haha. i am pretty excited about the new product coming out though. it should be pretty good stuff

[MOUNTAIN-MAN]

Re: Follow Along G's Run to the NA's

I got unflavored so I could mix my ISO with it it taste ok

[guns01]

Re: Follow Along G's Run to the NA's

How are u liking the vitargo ? What flavor did U get ?

it's not to bad at all and i think the whey iso kills the taste a bit. i am using the fruit punch or tropical i believe. i am mixing it with 2 and a half liters of water now so it is super thin and watered down so i can hydrate as i take it in and not having to carry two jugs haha. i will be switching over to prime nutritions new product that replaces the protein and carbs both either next wk or the following. that is as soon as it lands obviously.

[MOUNTAIN-MAN]

Re: Follow Along G's Run to the NA's

How are u liking the vitargo ? What flavor did U get ?