$74.7 Billion for war....

[LOCO]

Originally posted by LadiesMan
I want to know the level of education LOCO & Got Gear have. Honestly?

getting my BA in political science in few months...

[gongshow]

Originally posted by LadiesMan
I think Mr. Bush has the facts, he knows. If he told the public what saddam actually had, people would panic. Basically you and I are just peons, we don't know the facts, that is why the concepts of supporting your president and leaders exists, they know what is best and that is what they are doing. The truth will come out later, until then, i will support the leader of my country.

I hope you change your attitude once the facts come to the surface. If saddam uses chemicals and you STILL are against the war, then you have some issues bro. Please don't be too proud & biased to change your stance & I will do the same.

well said Ladies man!!!!!! exactly what I think.

[gongshow]

Originally posted by Got Gear?
I think you're a little confused about my attitude towards this war.

I'm mostly torn in 2 directions. I think Saddam has these weapons and this war is overdue, but the "Innocent untill proven guilty" thing also haunts me. Now that the war has already started, you won't see me protesting to stop it. Might as well finish the job.

I also think your wrong about Bush not telling his people if he had proof of WMD. Think of the cuban missle crisis.. they told the people then and it was a hellovalot scarrier! Also Bush is already claiming that Saddam has WMD and is baseing alot of his war campain around it. Proof is exactly what Bush needs to get the support of all the US people as well as the UN, and prove that he was right all along.

2 things...saddam is proven guilty!!! he said he didnt have any scud missiles as well as weapons of mass destruction....but yet, the 2nd day of the war he launches a scud missile at Kuwait, that we shot down....what other proof do you need that this guy is a lying bastard?

And, as far as support from the UN to follow through with this war....did Saddam, Bin Laden, and whoever else go the UN asking if it was alright to hijack 4 massive planes from us, and fly them into buildings strictly to perfrom a suicide mission???

just my two cents...im off to class soon...should be a huge debate today in there about this!!!

[freefaller21]

Originally posted by LadiesMan
Most of the anti-war people fit in one of these categories:

1. Not from the US (Canada, Frace, etc.... countries that want peace because the aren't strong enough to defend themselves if all hell breaks loose)
2. Uneducated (notice the people from hollywood)
3. Gay men (same as #1, they are scared & aren't strong enought to defend themselves)
4. Ugly women (not sure about this one, but take a look at some of these hideous looking creatures during the protests, I think it has something to do with the tree-hugger types)

I couldn't agree more.

[Got Gear?]

Originally posted by gongshow
2 things...saddam is proven guilty!!! he said he didnt have any scud missiles as well as weapons of mass destruction....but yet, the 2nd day of the war he launches a scud missile at Kuwait, that we shot down....what other proof do you need that this guy is a lying bastard?

A scud missle (or any missle) by itself is not a WMD. It's the warhead that matters, and this one had a conventional explosive. Nobody really cares about the SCUD missles anymore. They're 30+ year old technology and Saddam is quickly runnin out. Have you seen the ones he has that havn't been fired? Lol, they're all rusty and the paint is comming off. Last I heard this war was about human rights and WMD, not missles that are against the UN's "Range limit" rule.

And, as far as support from the UN to follow through with this war....did Saddam, Bin Laden, and whoever else go the UN asking if it was alright to hijack 4 massive planes from us, and fly them into buildings strictly to perfrom a suicide mission???

Easily answered. 2 wrongs don't make a right.

[3Vandoo]

a lying bastard!!!!!!

wtf you talking about, politic is lying all the time, 24/7.......

being a diplomat is lying for your country for you country interests.

you think Bush is not a lying sob?
ewwwwwwwwwwwwww

So is there a UN rule preventing madman dictator from lying

[3Vandoo]

and yes two wongs make a right!

If there two wongs, and one wight! then re in majority over the wight!

plus the wongs knows kung fu too

[Got Gear?]

Originally posted by 3Vandoo
and yes two wongs make a right!

If there two wongs, and one wight! then re in majority over the wight!

plus the wongs knows kung fu too

Damn! That's not what my mom always told me!

[LOCO]

this whole tihng is just a war game... the us needs those every once in a while.. to justify their military spendings... it's just that this time bush has gone too far... he's gonna ruin the image of the us in the world, cause huge deficits to the country (which he already has managed to do in less than a year time)...
and nothng will come out of this.... same thing that happened in nam, afganistan, iraq back in 1990 etc... they are going to end up spening tons of money, loosing many lives, making a poor nation even poorer, cause massive refugees migrations etc...
and once bush realizes that he's unable to change iraq (according to his fathers wishes, and everyone else that's using him as a pupet) the us will move on to north korea... that will be the next big thing... and saddam will be forgotten soon... just like the binladen hunt...
and i don't understand how ppl can blindly follow someone who is simply wrong... i know it's hard once u have been brainwashed by the media, friends etc... but i just hope ppl of the us will wake up soon...
every single ruler in the past that has risen to the top, gained too much power, and thought to be the strongest and most powerful in the world has crashed hard at the end... all of them... cesar, hannibal, napoleon, ****** etc etc.... their citizens were behind them 100% too... followed them blindly, without thinking..... and it was them at the end who paid the price for it all...
and today, just like many many times before, THE HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF.....

[3Vandoo]

Originally posted by Got Gear?
Damn! That's not what my mom always told me!

an old chinese confucian philosopher, name wong told me!

[pudgy]

round 5...ding

[Got Gear?]

Wow Loco!

Interesting outlook. Can't say I'm that intuned with past or present politics/wars to argue it with you. Seems logical tho..

I hope you like chewing, cause I think you just took a BIG bite!

[Keiser]

Originally posted by LOCO
this whole tihng is just a war game... the us needs those every once in a while.. to justify their military spendings... it's just that this time bush has gone too far... he's gonna ruin the image of the us in the world, cause huge deficits to the country (which he already has managed to do in less than a year time)...
and nothng will come out of this.... same thing that happened in nam, afganistan, iraq back in 1990 etc... they are going to end up spening tons of money, loosing many lives, making a poor nation even poorer, cause massive refugees migrations etc...
and once bush realizes that he's unable to change iraq (according to his fathers wishes, and everyone else that's using him as a pupet) the us will move on to north korea... that will be the next big thing... and saddam will be forgotten soon... just like the binladen hunt...
and i don't understand how ppl can blindly follow someone who is simply wrong... i know it's hard once u have been brainwashed by the media, friends etc... but i just hope ppl of the us will wake up soon...
every single ruler in the past that has risen to the top, gained too much power, and thought to be the strongest and most powerful in the world has crashed hard at the end... all of them... cesar, hannibal, napoleon, ****** etc etc.... their citizens were behind them 100% too... followed them blindly, without thinking..... and it was them at the end who paid the price for it all...
and today, just like many many times before, THE HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF.....

LOCO -> your name fits you well bro. Good choice.

[Got Gear?]

Originally posted by 3Vandoo
an old chinese confucian philosopher, name wong told me!

Ahh.. smart guy!

He's the same one who came up with this proverb:
"He who goes to bed with itchy bum, wakes up with smelly finger"

[Got Gear?]

Originally posted by pudgy
round 5...ding

Did I sleep through round 4?

Gramps, I think we're going to remount that wheelchair abacuss