EQ

[guns01]

ok, i have been meaning to do a little write up on eq for a minute because it is one of my favorite and versatile compounds. obviously we all know that eq is not a compound intended for humans and is a vet grade/horse drug. that's a give me. we also know that it has a very large tendency to raise rbc up pretty high and needs long term use to be effective. that range is normally the 16-20 wk mark for the sweet spot. now let's delve into some stuff that i have read that i didnt actually know and is pretty cool.

ok first, eq is almost identical to test. the only difference is it is missing two carbon atoms. this could be why it takes a bit to build up. now with that said since it is almost identical to test it fights for the same receptors as test. makes you think and the doc that did the last article pointed out, that you could use eq as the base of your cycle. pretty cool huh?

second: joint and tendon regeneration. eq has some unique characteristics that help to aid in joint health and recovery. another cool thing.

finally: the doc pointed out that since their is such a small incidence of side effects and almost zero toxicity with eq. one can run it solo at high doses for long duration with no ill side effects at all. other than test most compounds tend to need to be stacked for synergistic effects. test and eq dont seem to fit that bill. the doses that were pointed out solo for eq where in the range of 6-1200. now personally in my years of use i have played around with 4-1200(never solo) and found that i tolerate it up to 900 for long duration with no sides at all but once i break the gram mark, i start getting head aches(i have sensitive bp so that probably wouldnt be the case for all). eq is a pretty mild compound at the end of the day but still produces nice dry gains, good increases in strength and very little if any water retention

something that is also pointed out about the benefits of using eq as a base or solo is: eq doesnt readily convert to estrogen and it doesnt convert to dht at all. this is a huge plus for people that have estro related side issues and those that have prostate and hair falling out problems

hopefully someone learned something from this brief overview. i sure did reading them. let's hear what you guys think and if anyone has given eq a run solo before.

[MOUNTAIN-MAN]

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I learned some new things about eq thanks guns

[BABY1]

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Thanks guns. I only know about eq because it is something fuzo has run for years. He has not run it solo though, I don't think. I know it has caused a couple side effects in him but again, he is not running it solo so some effect may be from the other.

[Lunchbox]

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I just finished up a run of EQ and again it did raise my RBC slightly. At out local Mall there was a mobile Carter Donation truck set up so I decided to go give blood. They prick your finger to test Hemoglobin (RBC) to see if you have enough. I guess there is a range they want you at to safely give blood.

After he tested me he asked if I would be interested in donating Plasma. Since my RBC count was slightly elevated it would be good for them and me.

Takes about 25 minutes rather than 5-10.

Easy peasy

[Skeletor]

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Eq is one of the safest compounds to run along side of testosterone. I did it a lot in the past and never had any sides at all. Great information guns

[dirtwarrior]

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Does it aide tendon and joints as well as deca? Is it wet?

[guns01]

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Does it aide tendon and joints as well as deca? Is it wet?

deca lubes the joints. eq regenerates and helps repair damage to the joints. deca i would say is more of a preventative and eq more of a fixer to problems

[gusto77]

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Doing my first correct run with EQ right now in conjunction with sust and npp. Now you said it competes for the same receptors as test. So wouldn't that mean using both together is wasting one of the two?

[rocky83]

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Doing my first correct run with EQ right now in conjunction with sust and npp. Now you said it competes for the same receptors as test. So wouldn't that mean using both together is wasting one of the two?

^^^Running deca with EQ right now as well. Would like to know the same.

[Yohimbe]

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I've always liked EQ. Even more so now that I know it helps with joint / tendon health and recovery. I've yet to run it solo, but I've run it many times over the years with little if any sides.

[guns01]

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Doing my first correct run with EQ right now in conjunction with sust and npp. Now you said it competes for the same receptors as test. So wouldn't that mean using both together is wasting one of the two?

that's what the doc that wrote the articles i read said. i dont know if he is guessing or assuming though because of the similarities of the compounds but i have never used it solo either. i would think that combining the two as long as you are under your tolerance level it wouldnt be an issue. i have run both my test and eq really high and still didnt get any estro sides from the test. so i would say that my body had enough receptors to cover the dose. that is just me guessing though and like i pointed out earlier, this compound isnt and has never been made for people so their are no actual studies on it

[LittleTom]

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This is an interesting thread. In most of my "research" regarding EQ, people say that anything less then 700mg is a waste and others say EQ is just not worth it because as stated, you might as well just run Test. I have heard that EQ is a great endurance compound.... Gusto brings up a good point. If Test and EQ are pretty comparable to each other, say a person runs a cycle of 700mg Test E and 900mg EQ, are you essentially running 1600mgs of a Test like cycle? I have been around for a bit but it just goes to show how much learning I have yet to do.

[hicktown]

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I love EQ because I knew that it wasnt very toxic and that it was a safe compound to use with test. The gains do take forever to start coming in but last cycle I ran it around 800 and the strength gains were really good.

I had no idea it was that close to test. I dont think i would use it as a base though? Would anyone consider that?

[guns01]

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This is an interesting thread. In most of my "research" regarding EQ, people say that anything less then 700mg is a waste and others say EQ is just not worth it because as stated, you might as well just run Test. I have heard that EQ is a great endurance compound.... Gusto brings up a good point. If Test and EQ are pretty comparable to each other, say a person runs a cycle of 700mg Test E and 900mg EQ, are you essentially running 1600mgs of a Test like cycle? I have been around for a bit but it just goes to show how much learning I have yet to do.

i am the same way man. i been in the game for a hell of a long time and i am still learning new stuff every day. i am not a big research paper guy but i still read them and compare it to real world stuff. then i do my own theory and findings haha.

like i said i have never applied the eq solo or as a base personally but it is pretty interesting concept. that and the doubling with test and eq. i dont see that being an issue as long as you are still responding and not getting test related side effects. if we think about it, when you have to much test and it's not attaching it is converting over to estro. that would be one indicator that you are to high esp since eq doesnt readily convert to estro or dht.

i should have also pointed that out about another point from one of the articles. he was pointing out the benefits of using eq as a base due to it not converting over to dht at all and not aromatizing to estro very easily. those are huge for guys with problems with gyno and hair falling out

[dirtwarrior]

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How does it effect libido?