Supplement Must Haves

[jipped genes]

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fish oil
creatine
beta alanine
protein

[Trixie]

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Pre Workout

Taurine 1000mg
Arginine
Acidophilus beats back yeast
Calcium+D3
Vitamin C 1000mg
2 Orange Triad
Glutamine 1g
Flaxseed
1 serving Pump Juice Extreme or Contraband or Bpi sports Vortex
1 Serving Alphamine

Post Workout

2 Scoop Gold Standard Whey Rocky Road
4 Orange Triad
Calcium+D3
Ginko Baloba 120mg Memory
Glucosamine, Condroitin MSM
2 Iron 130mg
L-Lysine 1000mg
Fish Oil 1400mg
Digestive enzymes

Evening

2 Scoop Shake
Syntha-6 Strawberry Milkshake or
Xtreme Formulations Ultra Peptide Casein Lemon Cream Pie

All of this every day

[guns01]

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Thank u Guns, I'll def up the Intra and see where the sweet spot is !!!
As for the Liver Support , I like
Damage Control !!! 4 pills a day and that's it . I was told that w/ a heavy cycle like some I take , more TUDCA is needed to keep the Liver in check !!!
Something like 900-1000 mgs ed !!! There's also Liver Guardian by Pro Supps that I throw in for the added TUDCA support .
What do u think about the up in TUDCA Guns ??? I believe it's better safe than sorry and nothing wrong w/ alittle more .
I am also a believer in Raw Apple Cider Vinegar & Organic Lemon Juice , 1-2 times w/ water ed !!!

looks like you have all your bases covered man other than finding the sweet spot for recovery with the intra.

as for the tudca hell yeah up that puppy when you are running harsh stuff. i dont know why anyone wouldnt want their liver performing at optimal levels when they are trying to maximize what they are doing. the liver is one of the biggest assets we have. you also have you insulin sensitivity and digestion covered as well. so imo you are running a fine tuned machine with your approach

[guns01]

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I stay on these year around:

multi-v (cheap wal mart or walgreens)
fish oil-1000mg at least twice a day
milk thistle-175mg once to 3 times daily
saw plametto-160mg 2x a day
magenesium-250 once or twice a day ( My bloods always show low magenesium)
Cranberry-250mg ed
Coq-10- 100 ed
Different kinds of probitcs once to twice a day
Various kinds of a whey protein- 50g-80 one post worout ad one pre bed
Valerian Root-400mg-600mg(Use it most nights bc I have sleep problems)


These I take at different times depending on cycles or as needed:

Creatine 5g just cheap unflavored kinds (I use it in cycles through out the year)
Nac- with oral cycles for extra support
Casin Protein: 80mg prebed, I use it often for my night protein but Iv been slacking havent had it in a while
Gaba-3g close to bed
meletoninon as needed 5g prebed
St, john's wort 300mg as needed (Idk how much ot actually helps but I tke it when im under stress)
Vit C-just as needed when sick
pre workouts- I use alot of differnt kinds I take them about once a week or so when im not really ready to go that day.
Some sort of test booster- I've used one from MR.Supps the last few times. Inbtween cycles, I've used various ingredients o combinations of several.

I know thats ALOT of supps, but like i said some arent used all the time. Im very paranoid about my health after the wreck i was in and such bad injueris. So I like to have all possible bases covered.

That absolutely everything I ever use. I just went ahead and went into detail. If someone wonders why I use something,I will be glad to explain more.

let's see what i can pick in on with animal the manimal:

1- multi. good choice but again i like the split up individual vits being added in
2- fish oil: great addition but what do you think about bumping up to the 3-6g range?
3-milk thistle: not a big fan of anymore but i dont knock it either. i have seen a number of studies showing that it really doesnt do to much at all. tudca is a much better option imho
4-saw pal: prostate support, absolutely
5-magnesium: another great addition for optimal health benes
6-cranberry: love it, got to keep the kidneys and urinary track running optimally
7-CoQ10: cardio health. great choice
8-priobiotics: yeah buddy gut health and proper digestion
9-whey: another great addition
10-valarine root: good to see another believer in using aids that dont come from the doc for sleeping and relaxing. gh release brain health and rems sleep. yeah boy
11-creatine: cheap and proven muscle builder. great addition and staple
12-nac: detox and cardio health. like i pointed out earlier. this supp needs to be spaced away from your training as far as possible to counter any interference
13- casin pro: awesome slow release protein as long as your guts tolerate it haha
14-gaba: another believer. brain health, enhanced gh release and relaxing restful sleeping. it's cheap as hell too
15-melatonin: another awesome sleep addition. also aids in hormone health, fat loss and gh release
16-st johns: brain health and numerous other mental health applications.
17-vit c: i like them constant because they are water sol, they fight free radicals and enhance the immune system
18-pre workouts: speaks for itself
19- test boost: daa and other ones help us older guys quite effectively. great addition.

i love the detail and hopefully we can get some good pros and cons going here with what and why everyone does what they do.

[animal87]

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I been meaning to start takeing tudca too. I kep forgetting it just bc im not used to buying it yet.

[BABY1]

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guns where's the love? I know my supps list is quite small but......

[MuscleAddiction]

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i like your lineup ma and i will start at the bottom because it is one of the best and one of my all time favs that most people dont realize.

1- acv: this bad boy right here does a host of great things and the smart cookie will try to hit it up 3x per day if possible. organic with pulp pref. ok so a couple bene's from this stuff. it detoxes out the body, it also kills bacteria and it also improves insulin sensitivity. those 3 things alone make it worth having on board
2- raw organic honey: to many great things it does to note. it is a bit pricy but it is a great addition to a daily detox/insulin support setup
3- i am going to add a combo with one thing that is missing from ma's tonic. fresh squeezed lemon. now combining the above 2 with one fresh squeezed lemon and warm water. this only enhances the above benefits and also gives a boost to digestive support.

now the list:
1-mulit pack: covers pretty much all the daily vit mineral needs. only thing i will ask again is thoughts on individual vits spread throughout the day.
2-tudca: liver health big time. if one is playing our game and is overlooking this aspect they are crazy. your liver does everything from protein synthesis to helping burn fat off. so if it isnt optimum you arent going to be performing well
3- Nac: another cheap detox supp with numerous cardio vascular benefits.
4- b complex: there is an optional added vit. an important complex that does a host of things from hormone support to protein synthesis. big time need if one doesnt consume much red meat
5-lipid stable: cardio support. great freaking product that i have personally used to improve my cholesterol. great choice on this one
6- xtreme joint: tendon and ligament health are also something we have to stay on top of esp as we get a little older. not familiar with this product personally
7- CoQ10: cardio support. again most dont realize how important this stuff is or how negatively it hinders our gains and performance
8-Saw pal: prostate health and support. dht compounds will hammer the prostate and this has been shown to aid in keeping it somewhat in check and healthy
9-probiotics: gut health just like cardio health can make or break our gains. this is a very important supp that gets overlooked quite a bit esp in those that dont consume much diary
10- pwo: yeah we all love em haha. nothing like getting that little extra umpfh in the gym
11-bcaa: great for intra and before cardio on empty stomach. you have to try either the intra md or the vitargo/whey hydro combo ma. i can guarantee it will take your recovery to a whole new level
12- whey: pretty common staple but with changing out the above you can eliminate this supp and replace it with a solid meal 30-60min post workout without creeping into a catabolic stae
13- vit c: water sol just like i mentioned above. kills free radicals and you burn through it in your system in a pretty short period of time. nice to see the addition to keep it in the system constantly
14- vit d: hormone hormone hormones. got to have this stuff because it does so much
15-mag: even though it makes you poop haha esp if you let it get high, it regulates hormones aids in recovery and does a bunch of other great things for what we do

great very well thought out setup ma

Thanks guns...I will try the Intra MD, Vitargo Whey/Hydro combo soon, assuming it is from TGB Supplements?

[guns01]

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guns where's the love? I know my supps list is quite small but......

haha, i am getting through them as i jump on and off today. waiting on some others to kick some feedback out as well to see what others opinions and thought processes are as well

[guns01]

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Thanks guns...I will try the Intra MD, Vitargo Whey/Hydro combo soon, assuming it is from TGB Supplements?

you can use either or. the intra or the vitargo/with your choice of whey hydro. yes you can get either of them from tgb or whatever supp store you use. tgb does have the best pricing i have seen thus far though and not just because i am a rep

[BABY1]

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haha, i am getting through them as i jump on and off today. waiting on some others to kick some feedback out as well to see what others opinions and thought processes are as well

I am just razzing you guns. You know why I use very little and why I use the things that I use

[MuscleAddiction]

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you can use either or. the intra or the vitargo/with your choice of whey hydro. yes you can get either of them from tgb or whatever supp store you use. tgb does have the best pricing i have seen thus far though and not just because i am a rep

Will check them out...being a rep for Mr. Supps and a sponsored athlete for Nutrishop, normally don't venture out from those two and supps, but willing to try since it is coming from the guru

[guns01]

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Will check them out...being a rep for Mr. Supps and a sponsored athlete for Nutrishop, normally don't venture out from those two and supps, but willing to try since it is coming from the guru

i feel you on trying to stay in house

[guns01]

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Multi
Vitargo
Protein
Fish oil

When I get close to a show I will drop all shakes and only stay with a multi and fish oil. IMO if I can get it from my food then by all means I'm going too.

love the vitargo and protein man. gunner is as bare bones basic as you can get on his setup. i am a big eater as well and would much rather have good solid food as often as possible. hard to do when you are a working individual unless like me you can scarf 16oz protein and a serv of carbs in under 10 mins no problem

[guns01]

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Not much for me anymore.

Protein- Dymatize iso100 post workout. Since it is a faster acting protein, I will pair it up with a good fat to slow digestion when I have it at other times.

Oregano oil 4 drops sublingual night
Vit b12 1 drop sublingual 2x a day
Vit d drops

Cq10 dropd mostly for the benefit it has on lowering histamine levels which rise due to allergies/iinflammation


these liquid supps do not have fillers and are absorbed by my body better cayse they are sublingual.

I think supps are great for peoples' regimen but they just aren't good for me

i like baby1's choices for her needs. i have checked out these liquid supps you use and even though i havent dove in just yet i am going to be adding them into my setup very soon. i like my vits and stuff individually so this is a great option for that route

[bossman]

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right now i'm taking b vitamin complex, vitamin d, fish oil, protein shakes with creatine, blockade (cycle support) and coq10. i need to pick up a multivitamin too.