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  • gusto77
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    Originally posted by guns01 View Post
    i am going man down for a few days to heal and rest. my back is going to get seriously injured if i keep pushing and set me back even further. right now it isnt at the point where i can only put weight on one leg but i am damn close to that point now. also all my other joints are pretty nasty and achy so i may be over trained a little bit and need a little break. going to be a biatch to have to take a little time off but eh i have to for a few days at least
    Damn brother feel better.

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  • MOUNTAIN-MAN
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    Originally posted by guns01 View Post
    i am going man down for a few days to heal and rest. my back is going to get seriously injured if i keep pushing and set me back even further. right now it isnt at the point where i can only put weight on one leg but i am damn close to that point now. also all my other joints are pretty nasty and achy so i may be over trained a little bit and need a little break. going to be a biatch to have to take a little time off but eh i have to for a few days at least
    Smart man back pain is a mother heal up and feel better bro

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  • guns01
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    i am going man down for a few days to heal and rest. my back is going to get seriously injured if i keep pushing and set me back even further. right now it isnt at the point where i can only put weight on one leg but i am damn close to that point now. also all my other joints are pretty nasty and achy so i may be over trained a little bit and need a little break. going to be a biatch to have to take a little time off but eh i have to for a few days at least

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  • guns01
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    today:

    legs
    10 min stepmill warmup
    rumble roller work
    seated leg curls 90x12 105x12(warmups) 120x12 135x12 150x12 165x12
    squats 205x10 225x10(warmups) 275x10 315x10 335x10 ds 335x5ds 225x10ds 135x10 (my back is screwed and i am not happy at all with these numbers)
    leg extensions 90x12 105x12 120x12(5)(1)
    hacks 230x20 270x20 410x20(4)
    lying leg curls 100x12 110x12 110x12(5)(1)

    done for the day. not happy at all about today's numbers. my lower back by my tail bone is giving me hell and it def hinder squats today. no pain during the movement at all, it is when unracking and reracking that it screams. got it done though and hopefully i will heal up fast. i took yesterday off because it was bothering me so bad.

    meal 1
    16oz top round steak
    2tblspn coconut oil
    meal 2
    protein cakes
    intra workout meal
    3 scoops intra md w/ gallon water
    meal 3
    16oz turkey burgers w/cheese
    8oz sweet potato
    meal 4
    16oz ground turkey
    meal 5
    16oz crock pot chicken
    2tbl spn coconut oil

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  • guns01
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    Originally posted by Trixie View Post
    Maybe one of these days I will figure out what a 'Back (secondary)' means. I just try to replicate what I see here and hope it works for me. You are the best; and looking pretty large so I think you will be holding on to some more size this year. You amaze me.
    ~Trixie~
    i am training back 2x per week. one session is a primary with heavy weight and lower back work and the second is a secondary workout with lighter weight and more of focus on pump with no lower back work. the idea is to force more blood in and hit it again later in the week to help bring it up some more

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  • Trixie
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    Maybe one of these days I will figure out what a 'Back (secondary)' means. I just try to replicate what I see here and hope it works for me. You are the best; and looking pretty large so I think you will be holding on to some more size this year. You amaze me.
    ~Trixie~

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  • guns01
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    today:

    back(secondary)
    10 min treadmill warmup
    one arm db rows 60x10 80x10 100x10 110x10
    cable pullovers 100x10 120x10 130x10 140x10
    swiss bar stretch pulldowns 100x10 120x10 140x10 160x10
    one arm sup pulldowns 40x10 50x10 60x10 60x10

    done for the day. in and out and done super quick. good workout no real complaints other than a little pain my low back by my hip. hopefully that isnt hindering for legs tomorrow. getting the same sensation when i hurt it originally a long long time ago. funny thing is it loosened up and felt better after deads, then two days later it is ill tempered. i guess i am getting old haha.


    meal 1
    16oz top round steak
    2tblspn coconut oil
    meal 2
    protein cakes
    intra workout meal
    2 scoops intra md w/ gallon water
    meal 3
    16oz turkey meatloaf
    8oz sweet potato
    meal 4
    16oz ground turkey (sals steaks are all gone)
    meal 5
    16oz crock pot chicken
    2tbl spn coconut oil

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  • MOUNTAIN-MAN
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    Nice arm day I live for arm day

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  • guns01
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    today:

    arms
    10 min treadmill warmup
    vbar pressdowns 90x20 100x20/2 (warmups)
    incline db curls 15x15/3(warmups) 20x15 25x15 30x15(x14) 35x12(1)
    standing ez bar curls 95x12/5
    straight bar pressdowns 130x30 160x30 180x30(5)(1) 180x30(10)(1) wow ouch
    seated overhead rope etensions 120x12 110x12 100x12 100x12

    done for the day. got in really really late and at the worse time. new years jackasses and elbow to elbow packed late evening. it was still a really good workout with a good and nasty pump and done in under an hour. weather dropped down stupid cold so elbows wrists hands and shoulders are very very tight and tender.


    meal 1
    16oz top round steak
    2tblspn coconut oil
    meal 2
    protein cakes
    intra workout meal
    2 scoops intra md w/ gallon water
    meal 3
    16oz turkey meatloaf
    8oz sweet potato
    meal 4
    16oz salsberry steaks
    8oz mashed potatoes
    meal 5
    16oz crock pot chicken
    2tbl spn coconut oil

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  • MOUNTAIN-MAN
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    Great post big guy.

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  • guns01
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    Originally posted by stevekern View Post
    You may be right I only posted this for informational purposes. Remember our kidneys are already under a lot of stress!-)
    Blood Occlusion Training
    1
    Practical Occlusion Training
    By: Jeremy P Loenneke, Southeast Missouri State University
    Published
    :
    May 2009
    Introduction
    Restricting blood flow to a muscle
    , and
    exercising; does
    n’t
    that sound ridiculous? I
    used to think so, until I came across occlusion training. Occlusion training is a fairly new
    mode of exercise that allows one to train at very low intensities and receive the benefit of
    high intensity exercise.
    Intensities as l
    ow as 20% 1RM have been shown to result in
    increased muscle mass when performed with modera
    te blood flow restriction with no
    increase in markers for muscle damage
    (Loenneke & Pujol, in press)
    .
    How can this benefit bodybuilders?
    As we all know, it’s hard
    to train at high
    intensities (>85% 1RM) day in and day out. Those conditions drain you
    both physically and
    mentally. Occlusion training
    allow
    s
    you to give
    not only
    your joints a break
    from the
    heavy
    loading
    , but also
    your mind.
    Mechanisms
    What does
    restricting blood flow do that translates into bigger muscles? There are a
    variety of proposed mechanisms, but a few seem to be the most prominent. The three
    mechanisms below appear to act together to produce an environment that is favorable to
    muscle gr
    owth with low intensity occlusion training.
    1.
    Fiber Type Recruitment (Fast twitch fiber recruitment)
    2.
    Accumulation of Metabolites
    (lactic acid

    acid
    ic
    environment

    GH
    secretion)
    Blood Occlusion Training
    2
    3.
    mTOR pathway activation (protein synthesis)
    Fiber Type Recruitment
    During low i
    ntensity exercise, slow twitch fibers (oxidative) are primarily recruited as
    they are able to adequately handle the workload. This isn’t advantageous to bodybuilders
    because, fast twitch fibers (glycolytic) have the greatest potential for growth.
    When on
    e
    moderately restricts blood
    -
    flow, it limits the amount of oxygen available to the slow twitch
    (oxidative) fibers thus causing a rapid recruitment of fast twitch (glycolytic) fibers to handle
    the workload. Thus with occlusion, fast twitch fibers are able
    to be trained with a low
    -
    intensity workload.
    EMG (electromyography) studies were completed to confirm that there
    is an increase in motor unit firing with occlusion. The EMG data also revealed no difference
    between low intensity occlusion training and hig
    h intensity exercise
    (Moritani, Michael
    -
    Sherman, Shibata, Matsumoto, & Shinohara, 1992; Takarada, Tsuruta, & Ishii , 2004)
    . This
    means that despite the light weight, the firing rate mimics that of heavy resistance training.
    Metabolic Accumulation
    Occlusion training with low intensities has shown increases in lactate and growth
    hormone (GH). The increase in GH has actually been shown to be even higher than that
    seen with heavy resistance training. One study in athletes showed a 290x increase in G
    H
    over baseline
    (Takarada, Nakamura, Aruga, Onda, Miyazaki, & Ishii, 2000)
    .
    Lactate
    increasing is linked to GH, in that an increase in lactate makes the environment within the
    muscle
    more
    acidic. Remember, there is an inverse relationship between lactate
    and pH, so
    as lactate increases, pH decreases. There is evidence to indicate that a low pH stimulates
    the pathway that plays an important role in the secretion of GH
    (Gosselink, et al., 1998)
    .
    mTOR Pathway
    The mTOR pathway has
    also
    been shown to be ac
    tivated with low intensity occlusion
    training
    (Fujita, et al., 2007)
    . This pathway is responsible for protein synthesis.
    Phosphorylation of S6k1 was increased by three
    -
    fold following occlusion training and
    Blood Occlusion Training
    3
    remained elevated at
    3 hours post exercise. Th
    is increase in protein synthesis means the
    body is primed for muscle growth.
    Fast twitch fiber recruitment, metabolic accumulation, and mTOR activation are three
    of the most prominent mechanisms involved in the muscle building effects seen with
    occlusion t
    raining. There are others that likely play some role, but the aforementioned are
    likely the most
    prominent
    . Other potential mechanisms include increases in Heat Shock
    proteins, NOS
    -
    1, and decreased expression of myostatin.
    Occlusion Device
    So you know
    the benefits, you know the m
    echanisms, but how would a bodybuilder
    occlude a muscle? The research uses something called a KAATSU apparatus. This is an
    expensive machine that many of us don’t have lying around. My lab has been working on a
    practical way
    to do this by testing the effects of elastic knee wraps.
    We have
    postulated
    that
    tying
    elastic knee wraps around the legs
    will
    induce a stimulus similar to that of using
    expensive equipment.
    Our
    latest study was to examine a protocol that could be utili
    zed by
    the greatest number of people. Having blood flow restricted is very uncomfortable, so our
    lab has directed efforts to find ways to increase the comfort to pain ratio. We investigated
    the lactate response to low
    -
    intensity exercise with blood flow
    being restored after each set.
    Our preliminary data has shown that when flow is restored to normal it does not induce
    a
    significant rise in lactate over control.
    This tells me that when blood flow is restored after
    each set, it doesn’t allow for the inte
    nsity of the exercise to change enough to see a rapid
    recruitment of additional fibers.
    So when prescribing occlusion training, it seems essential
    to keep the occlusion on throughout the exercise, to allow for the necessary intramuscular
    environmental cha
    nges to occur leading to muscular growth.
    Since it is only preliminary
    research, future efforts will/are being done to find out more.
    Blood Occlusion Training
    4
    Occlusion for the upper body can also occur by using elbow wraps for the upper arm
    and wrist wraps for the forearms. Ag
    ain, you would wrap it proximal to the muscle you
    wish to train. If you are hitting biceps that day, elbow wrap the very top of your upper arm,
    and for forearms you would occlude the upper portion of your lower arm (elbow area).
    In
    the next section, I’ll
    discuss how to receive occlusion benefits for the upper body.
    Exercise Rx
    for UPPER/LOWER
    As I’ve stated before, our lab did not see a significant difference in lactate between
    groups,
    when blood flow was restored in between sets. Thus, I
    would recommend leaving
    the elastic knee wraps on throughout until the 4 sets have been completed.
    This stimulus
    will likely
    allow for the increased recruitment of Type 2 fibers, which would result in a
    significant increase in lactate.
    Occlusion benefit
    s for the lower body have been very
    promising, in that every study has shown significant increases in muscle mass over the
    control.
    As far as occlusion for the upper body, an interesting paper from Madarame et al.
    (2008)
    has shown that one can receive benefits of occlusion for the upper body by occluding
    the lower body. This cross
    -
    over effect is likely attributed to the large increase in hormones
    due to the larger muscles of the leg musculature. The large
    r quadriceps wi
    ll
    increase
    hormones more so than the small
    er
    biceps.
    Madarame showed that when occlusion of the
    legs followed a light upperbody exercise, it resulted in significant hypertrophy.
    Although indirect occlusion for the upper body is effective, as stated pr
    eviously, it is
    possible to also directly occlude the upper body by using elbow and wrist wraps. Obviously,
    this would directly effect the biceps, triceps, and forearms. So what about the other
    muscles of the upper body? There is research out of Fujita’
    s laboratory in Japan that
    suggests that one can hypertrophy the chest, by occluding the upper portion of the arm.
    The idea is that during the bench press, the triceps would fatigue fast, resulting in a higher
    recruitment of the chest to pick up the load.
    One would also suspect that the same could be
    Blood Occlusion Training
    5
    done for the back, by occluding the arm in the same spot (very top of the arm).
    Theoretically, during a lat pull down, occluding the biceps would cause a higher recruitment
    of fibers from the back.
    One of
    the most interesting studies was conducted by A
    be et al.
    (2006). They have
    found that walking at very low speeds
    on a treadmill
    results in bigger muscles too.
    Muscular growth occurred at a speed of about 2 mph.
    B
    elow is an exercise prescription f
    or
    both
    the legs and upper body. I have also included a small section on cardio
    recommendations.
    To use the
    tables
    you will need to know how to figure percentages of
    your one repetition maximum.
    Minimum Intensity Equation=
    Your One Repetition Maximum
    X
    0.
    2
    Maximum Intensity Equation=
    Your one Repetition Maximum
    X
    0.5
    For example, if you’re 1RM on the BB Squat is 405 pounds, here’s how you would
    figure your intensity.
    405 x 0.2= 81 pounds would be the minimum weight you would work with
    .
    405 x 0.5=202.5
    pounds would be the maximum weight you would work with.
    Table 1.
    Lower body Recommendations
    Lower Body Exercise
    Sets/Reps
    Rest
    Intensity
    BB Squat
    4/30
    -
    15
    -
    15
    -
    15
    30 seconds
    -
    1 minute
    20
    -
    50% 1RM
    Leg Press
    4/30
    -
    15
    -
    15
    -
    15
    30 seconds
    -
    1 minute
    20
    -
    50% 1RM
    Leg
    Extension
    4/30
    -
    15
    -
    15
    -
    15
    30 seconds
    -
    1 minute
    20
    -
    50% 1RM
    Leg Curl
    4/30
    -
    15
    -
    15
    -
    15
    30 seconds
    -
    1 minute
    20
    -
    50% 1RM
    Hack Squat
    4/30
    -
    15
    -
    15
    -
    15
    30 seconds
    -
    1 minute
    20
    -
    50% 1RM
    Romanian Deadlifts
    4/30
    -
    15
    -
    15
    -
    15
    30 seconds
    -
    1 minute
    20
    -
    50% 1RM
    Calve Raises
    4/30
    -
    15
    -
    15
    -
    15
    30 seconds
    -
    1 minute
    20
    -
    50% 1RM
    Blood Occlusion Training
    6
    Upper body occlusion is basically performing an exercise for the body part you wish to grow
    at
    a
    low intensity (50% 1RM) followed by occluding the legs.
    Training at 50% 1RM is low
    enough intensity that you ar
    en’t causing a major stress to the joints, but it appears
    sufficient enough to activate the hormonal receptors
    (Madarame, Neya, Ochi, Nakazato,
    Sato, & Ishii, 2008)
    .
    So
    let’s
    say your max bench is 400 pounds, you would use 200
    pounds with normal bloodflow for 3 sets of 10, followed by occlusion with the leg extension
    and leg curl.
    Occluding the large musculature of the legs will result in a huge increase in
    hormones. Hormone
    s are transported in the blood and blood goes everywhere in the body.
    So, the hormone release from the lower body will be transporte
    d to the hormone receptors
    activated with the upper body exercise.
    Obviously you could do it for many different
    exercises,
    but listed below are just a few to give you an example.
    Table 2.
    Upper body Recommendations
    Upper Body Exercise
    Sets/Reps
    Rest
    Intensity
    BB Bench Press
    *
    3/10
    1
    -
    2 minutes
    50% 1RM
    BB Military*
    3/10
    1
    -
    2 minutes
    50% 1RM
    BB Curl*
    3/10
    1
    -
    2 minutes
    50%
    1RM
    BB Row*
    3/10
    1
    -
    2 minutes
    50% 1RM
    Lat Pulldown*
    3/10
    1
    -
    2 minutes
    50% 1RM
    DB Tricep Extensions*
    3/10
    1
    -
    2 minutes
    50% 1RM
    Dips*
    3/10
    1
    -
    2 minutes
    50% 1RM
    *
    indicates that when you have finished the exercise, you wrap your legs and perform 3 sets
    of leg extension and/or 3 sets of leg curls.
    The intensity of the leg extension/leg curl is set
    at 3 sets of 30% 1RM on leg extension/leg cu
    rl. Reps are set at
    30
    -
    15
    -
    15 with 30 seconds
    to 1 minute rest between each set. Here’s an example of how it would look for the bench.
    1.
    Bench Press your 3 sets at 50% 1RM
    Blood Occlusion Training
    7
    2.
    Wrap your legs for 3 sets of 30
    -
    15
    -
    15 at 30% 1RM on leg extension with 30
    seconds
    -
    1 minute rest
    3.
    Take the
    wraps off and wait for ~5 minutes to restore bloodflow
    4.
    Wrap your legs again for 3 sets of 30
    -
    15
    -
    15 at 30% 1RM on leg curl with 30
    seconds
    -
    1 minute rest.
    5.
    Take off wraps
    As
    stated earlier, there is evidence to indicate that walking at low speeds occluded
    ,
    re
    sults in skeletal muscle hypertrophy.
    Abe et al.
    (2006)
    had subjects walk on a treadmill
    at ~2mph for 5 sets of 2 minute intervals with 1 minute rest between intervals. They did
    this twice a day and after 6 weeks
    the subjects who had been walking occlud
    ed gained
    a
    significant amount of muscle over
    those in the
    control
    who were walking with normal
    bloodflow
    . So how can you receive this benefit
    at your gym? If you want to train
    your
    upper leg, wrap the very top portion of your thigh. However, if you wan
    t to train calves,
    wrap the knee wraps around your knees, as you would for squatting. Instead
    of completely
    resting
    between intervals, I recommend lowe
    ring the intensity and just moving
    slower than
    you were for your actual working interval. For example,
    with the elliptical
    ,
    let’s
    say you are
    sticking with LEVEL 10 for your resistance during the intervals, lower it to LEVEL 4 or 5 for
    your rest interval.
    Remember, you shouldn’t be in an all out sprint during the working
    interval, light to moderate seems t
    o be the most effective environment for the benefits of
    occluded cardio.
    Conclusions
    In conclusion, this paper has discussed the mechanisms by which occlusion works
    and even more important, how a bodybuilder can occlude a muscle to receive the benefits
    of training heavy with light
    er
    weight.
    Outlined in
    this
    text are different exercise prescriptions
    for the lower body, upper body, and even cardio recommendations.
    Blood Occlusion Training
    8
    Some Key Points

    I would
    recommend that one not occlude a muscle for more than 30 minutes
    a
    t a time
    This is purely a safety concern. One must understand the difference
    between acute and chronic effects. Acute blood flow restriction is a
    definite positive, but chronically cutting off blood flow would likely
    result in actual tissue death.

    Ne
    ver use occlusion with anything above 50% 1RM
    As bodybuilders, we
    often
    fall into the trap of more is better. If a
    person would use occlusion with heavy lifting; 1) they are defeating
    the point of occlusion training; 2) it doesn’t appear to have a
    synergi
    stic effect anyway
    (Laurentino, et al., 2008)
    ; and 3) I believe
    this could cause potential harm to the body.

    Wrap the knee wraps tight, but not crazy tight (We want moderate occlusion,
    not full occlusion)
    This goes back to the phrase, moderate blood
    -
    flow restriction, NOT
    COMPLETE. We only need a moderate change to receive benefit.

    If you have any indications of impaired endothelial function (Diabetics
    included), DO NOT OCCLUDE
    If a person already has an impaired vascular system, I would urge
    them not to try occlusion as it could be very dangerous to there well
    -
    being.
    Acknowledgements
    I would like to thank Monica Kearney, Austin Thrower, and Dr. Joe Pujol for their
    help and
    continued support in the research of practical occlusion.
    Brief
    Author
    Biography
    Jeremy Loenneke is a Graduate Student at Southeast Missouri State University in the
    Nutrition, Exercise Science program where his main focus is Vascular Occlusion Training.
    He also is a competitive natural bodybuilder in the OCB.
    Jeremy can be reached at
    jploenneke1s@semo.edu
    Blood Occlusion Training
    9
    Works Cited
    Abe, T., Kearns, C., & Sato, Y. (2006). Muscle size and strength are increased following
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    cle, Kaatsu
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    J Appl Physiol
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    -
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    Takarada, Y., Tsuruta, T., & Ishii, N. (2004). Cooperative effects of exercise and occlusive
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  • guns01
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    today:

    back/calves
    10 min treadmill warmup
    med ng low cable rows 85x20/2 100x20(warmups) 120x20 140x20 160x20
    sm bent rows 135x8(feeler set) 185x8 225x8 275x8 275x8 (lost a bit of explosiveness on the last rep of the last 2 sets)
    db pullovers 50x10 60x10 70x10
    rack pulls(mid shin) 225x5 275x5 315x5(warmups) 365x3 405x3 435x3
    rack pulls (just below knee) 455x3 475x3 500x3
    toe press ts 190x15ts 230x12ts 270x10ts
    bw standing calf raise ts x17ts x14ts x11ts
    tibia raise ts50x61 ts50x37 ts50x21

    done for the day. awesome freaking day today. neck is still a smidge tender but it had no effect on my training today. moved some heavy weight that felt really good and the pump was silly. probably had another 90lbs or so on the rack pulls but didnt want to risk my neck getting more aggervated so i held back a little bit to be safe. i am overall happy with the day and my back thickness and density is def showing big time i think. def going to be showing some huge improvements from last year for damn sure.


    meal 1
    16oz top round steak w/a1
    2 pop tarts
    meal 2
    protein cakes w/ pb
    intra workout meal
    2 and a half scoops intra md w/ gallon water
    meal 3
    16oz sirloin steak
    8oz sweet potatoe w/brown sugar and cinnamon
    2 tb; spn coconut oil
    meal 4
    16oz ground turkey meatloaf
    2 cups basmatti rice
    meal 5
    16oz chicken (food processed w/ketchup)
    2tbl spn coconut oil

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  • guns01
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    Re: Follow Along G's Run to the NA's

    Originally posted by stevekern View Post
    You may be right I only posted this for informational purposes. Remember our kidneys are already under a lot of stress!-)
    i am not to overly concerned with the kidney issue since we dont really hit it that hard or often. max on occlusion for me is 8 sets in about 10 mins give or take and it is done max 2x a wk at the most. i will post up a research link to its safety and effectiveness as well when i get some down time

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  • stevekern
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    Re: Follow Along G's Run to the NA's

    Originally posted by gusto77 View Post
    I'm not a doctor but I got to think this man had to have some underlying condition or other factors that caused this. I think its a little extreme to say this type of training causes this due to one case. I find it hard to believe that the level and duration of training this man did was the sole cause of this condition. Me and guns were done within minutes and I find it hard to believe there was enough waste or broken down muscle tissue to cause damage to the kidneys as long as we were adequately hydrated.
    You may be right I only posted this for informational purposes. Remember our kidneys are already under a lot of stress!-)

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  • gusto77
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    Re: Follow Along G's Run to the NA's

    Originally posted by stevekern View Post
    This occlusion training can be pretty rough on the kidneys! http://www.ergo-log.com/blood-flow-r...s-muscles.html
    I'm not a doctor but I got to think this man had to have some underlying condition or other factors that caused this. I think its a little extreme to say this type of training causes this due to one case. I find it hard to believe that the level and duration of training this man did was the sole cause of this condition. Me and guns were done within minutes and I find it hard to believe there was enough waste or broken down muscle tissue to cause damage to the kidneys as long as we were adequately hydrated.

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