Our President sings Amazing Grace

[guns01]

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Man I'm not going to argue with you about it. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink it. This is a free country believe what you want but I don't think you will have many backers here.

That being said how in the hell can you stand by a man whose probably perpetuated the single biggest and costliest bull shit crime against American people in his fucking obamacare. Now insurance companies and big business hospitals are free to charge whatver they want Because we are stuck. ...Legally forced to pay for something that isn't even a tenth as good as what you could pay for insurance wise previously. Do you know that your insurance rates are set to go up by as much as 49% next year in some states? Now doctors don't want to work, students don't want to become doctors, the list keeps growing. That fact alone should be worth hanging the man from the gallows as treason.


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man i wasnt even going to touch that one but since you opened the door lol. i have retired dod insurance, which was a really good plan before. what happened to mine with the onset? well my deductable overly doubled and my copays went up as well. use my va lol you say. that's another funny one, that going to have me waiting anywhere between 3-6 months lol. my first dental appointment was sched for me 18 months out. yep i got the appointment paper in the mail. funny thing is they arent even supposed to sched that far out but guess what? i got it in the mail. for all of those people that wanted government driven health care plans and systems. you should have looked at what the military has and how the va is and was run as an example. oh and while still on active duty since the system has rules about seeing outside docs, i am perm disabled and can never be fixed because i had to see all the military docs before being ref'd out. even more funny is when i seen the neuro surgeon after almost 2 years he told me if he would have gotten a hold of me within 60 days of my wound, he could have fixed it like it never happened, or at least a 80-90% chance.

i am going to go ahead and go back to, you have to have your math add up and you cannot give anything away for free. nothing in this world is free and someone else has to suffer and sacrifice for that which you get for free.

i also lost my doctor who was the freaking man. he retired as soon as it was implemented and sold his practice. thanks again

[Dzone]

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Everything about Obama is fraudulent. He is one of the worst things to ever happen to our country. You would have to be blind not to notice the deterioration of the country since he took over

[bossman]

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"Obamacare" was the brainchild of Teddy Kennedy and your Conservative hero, Mitt Romney

[guns01]

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"Obamacare" was the brainchild of Teddy Kennedy and your Conservative hero, Mitt Romney

haha that's actually a good one. romney care was actually slammed by the admin and the left. i am just curious as to how you can defend a law/bill that no one could review or read it before it got passed. you just had to trust them that it was that great. also another spin off on that is the fact that no one in the government is forced to use this health care plan. and old mitt is def not my hero but then again at least he is a business man and could balance a check book. my all time favorite, how can you call something affordable when in fact the costs are sky rocketing. people are paying double and even triple what they were before it was passed. sad fact is the get less care now for more money.

[BABY1]

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[Swiper]

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He's no Christian? No respect for the President? Just curious as to why you wouldn't respect the President, even if you didn't agree with his politics/policies

I believe obama chose to be Christian because he sat in rev. wrights America hating church for over 20 years, You remember Rev. Wright, don't ya?

[bossman]

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balance a checkbook the way Bush did, with unprecedented defecits? what is wrong with healthcare for all? if the poor and indigent didn't have it, you'd be complaining of having to pay for their emergency room visits. i would rather have a president that supports social programs than one that supports corporate welfare and the military/industrial complex.

[guns01]

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balance a checkbook the way Bush did, with unprecedented defecits? what is wrong with healthcare for all? if the poor and indigent didn't have it, you'd be complaining of having to pay for their emergency room visits. i would rather have a president that supports social programs than one that supports corporate welfare and the military/industrial complex.

haha, classic liberal move right there blame it on old bush. been almost 7 years since bush was cic and when it doesnt go your way he gets tossed into the mix. need i remind you how much he added to the debt and how much your hero has. what's wrong with health care for all? well let's see, for one someone has to pay for it and by having it implemented by a moron it costs 10x more than it actually should. look at how the guy that designed it described how it worked and what he thought about the american people. we also already had state run health care for the poor, it is called medicade and it only covers exactly what they need and not a bunch of other crap that increases cost on everyone else. so since we were already paying for their emergency room visits to begin with and those with health care insurance didnt have to much trouble paying for it to begin with. i would say it was a much better system to start with. again i will point out that your liberal heros always play that they are for the middle class and equality across the board. yet the middle class is the one being driven into the ground and they are some of the most intolerant hateful group of people in existance.

i want to toss a little gun control caivet out there again for your liberal beliefs and fairness and then another on a strong military. diane finstein(sp) believes that no citizen should be allowed to own firearms nor have a concealed permit. she has introduced numerous bills to ban weapons and all kinds of other crap. well guess who has and carries a firearm? that piece of trash that wants to take away our rights. not to mention has her very own security detail. i dont know about you but i cant afford to have a security detail to protect my family and the police response time in most areas is like mine and it takes a bit to respond to a call. predators will prey on the weak and unarmed especially if they know they are unarmed.

military/industrial complex support. lol well you should be pretty happy because our industrial complex has pretty much been driven into the ground and or exported to other countries. so that has created a nice need for government dependance because those people in those skilled jobs really dont have a ton of options, especially the older ones.
you realize that without a strong military you most likely wouldnt have the rights that you have today and that our military is all volunteer now. you also realize that china russia and many other countries that are still even in a one tract mind a threat to our nation. if you dont have a evolving strong military you are ripe for the picking. i would also like to thank you and like minded people like you for allowing me to deploy in broken down vehicles that barely ran, unarmored vehicles that we had to add home made armor onto, one body armor plate when i needed two, radios that only worked half the time, broken weapons that fired when they wanted to, no ammo for training, and some of the worse living conditions possible at times. thank you for supporting me as i defended your freedoms and ability to push for bs socialism in a great country

[FUZO]

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Obama=Dumbass I can go on but ill stop there

[guage]

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Breathe my friends ..lol. I have no dog in this fight to me they all suck only popping their sleezy asses out to futher there personal agendas milking the middle class into oblivion. But soon they all mighty hillary will be in charge and fix all our problems..

political threads never go good. Lol

[Dzone]

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If Hilary wins then it might be time to consider moving to norway or something

[bossman]

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they are all the same, Dem or Repub, don't kid yourself that they are any different. they just serve (slightly) different special interest groups. i'll be voting for Bernie Sanders

[Swiper]

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they are all the same, Dem or Repub, don't kid yourself that they are any different. they just serve (slightly) different special interest groups. i'll be voting for Bernie Sanders

you do know you're voting for an admitted socialist, right? I assume you know as you probably voted for Obama twice, who in the senate was to the left of the socialist sanders.

[bossman]

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Obama is more moderate than to the left of Sanders.

[Dzone]

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Obama is allowing Christians to be slaughtered all over the world. I suppose those being beheaded, crucified and sold into slavery aren’t deserving of Obama’s grace