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  • #31
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    Lets just all remember that bush has kept us safe like him or not
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    • #32
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      Originally posted by FUZO View Post
      SEEMS NO ONE IS READING STOUTS VERY FIRST POST I MEAN THE LIBERALS ABOUT OBAMA LYING
      They are doing what their new holy leader Obama has showed them to do....deflect the damage and change the subject. Somehow a thread about Obama has completely changed the subject as that is the best way to divert attention.
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      • #33
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        Originally posted by Stout1 View Post
        They are doing what their new holy leader Obama has showed them to do....deflect the damage and change the subject. Somehow a thread about Obama has completely changed the subject as that is the best way to divert attention.


        Ofcourse liberals ways of thinking
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        • #34
          Re: Barack admits he lied.

          Originally posted by FUZO View Post
          Lets just all remember that bush has kept us safe like him or not
          All except on 9/11 and except the 30934 wounded in Iraq since the war in Iraq began.



          And Holy leader?? C'mon Stout--I know your High priest/cult leader Ron Paul tells you Barack Obama is the devil, but before you tie the man up and toss him on top of a pile of burning tires, take a step back, and look at the captain insane-o Ron Paul website from a non-beleivers perspective. He is not the next messiah.

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          • #35
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            Originally posted by busapig View Post
            And Holy leader?? C'mon Stout--I know your High priest/cult leader Ron Paul tells you Barack Obama is the devil, but before you tie the man up and toss him on top of a pile of burning tires, take a step back, and look at the captain insane-o Ron Paul website from a non-beleivers perspective. He is not the next messiah.
            Ha, who told you this? Cult Leader? Devil? He never has and never would say such a thing. Once again try to smear/slander the truth it won't work.

            Non-believer's perspective in what?

            And if you truely did know what you were talking about and knew just a little bit about Ron Paul you might actually like him He is the one preaching the two party system doesn't work, he adhears strictly to the constitution, free market principles, and everything that you probably already would agree with you just haven't taken the time to look at him with an open mind. For what you posted previously I'm surprised you even can admit to liking Obama.
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            • #36
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              Why is Obama bragging about the appointment of a former Federal Reserve chairman to his economic team? ?

              … Paul Volcker.

              Doesn't Obama "get it" that people voted for him because they want CHANGE?

              Doesn't he "get it" that the vast majority of the people are opposed to the activities of the private banking cartel known as the Federal Reserve during the past couple of months?

              Doesn't he get it that a rapidly growing number of the populace and politicians are calling for the end to the FED and a return to sound money.

              What kind of change is this?
              Because Obama is part of the problem
              I voted for him
              But didn't believe him.
              I was hoping against hope he was not what he is apparently turning out to be.
              I will still give him the benefit of the doubt for now........but I have my doubts.
              There is no change! Obama is a carbon copy of Bush and McCain. He will continue the agenda of the Council on Foreign Relations, and the continued swindling of the American people by the Federal Reserve.

              We will not see any real change until we start looking outside the Council on Foreign Relations controlled Democrat and Republican parties.
              He correctly assumes that most Americans don't know that the Federal Reserve Bank is owned and operated by a bunch of International Banksters. Most people still think the "Fed" is a respectable U.S. government agency, with responsible leadership. Little do they know that Paul Volcker is just another one of the Bankster's stooges.

              When Senator Obama said he stood for "Change", he never specified what type of change he had in mind. He knew that Americans were sick and tired of Bush and would assume he was talking about change from the current direction. Little did Americans know he was referring to change away from national sovereignty into a privately controlled world government.

              After one is convinced he is CFR material, it doesn't take much to understand that the change he had in mind was the final steps in the implementation of their New World Order agenda.

              They may not require a membership card or a secret hand shake to get into a CFR meeting , but just you try to get into one without being a member or by special invitation; Barack managed to.
              There is no change! Obama is a carbon copy of Bush and McCain. He will continue the agenda of the Council on Foreign Relations, and the continued swindling of the American people by the Federal Reserve.

              We will not see any real change until we start looking outside the Council on Foreign Relations controlled Democrat and Republican parties.
              Thomas Jefferson - "When the government fears the people there is liberty; when the people fear the government there is tyranny."


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              • #37
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                One day after President Bush, at the request of President-elect Barack Obama, asked Congress to free up the second half of the money for the Treasury Department’s $700 billion financial rescue program, Mr. Bernanke cautioned that banks and other lending institutions were still not functioning properly and would probably need additional money.
                That's 350 billion.

                Mr. Bernanke supported the efforts by Congress and President-elect Obama to put together a fiscal stimulus program worth roughly $800 billion over two years that would be weighted heavily toward big new spending on infrastructure projects, like bridges and schools, “green” energy projects, and expanded safety-net programs like unemployment benefits.
                That's 350 billion plus an ADDITONAL 800 billion = 1.15 TRILLION dollars

                And you REALLY are going to tell me he is going to bring "CHANGE"?
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                • #38
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                  wheres the change 1.15 TRILLION dollars
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                  • #39
                    Re: Barack admits he lied.

                    Originally posted by Stout1 View Post
                    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/14/bu...e.html?_r=1&em

                    That's 350 billion.



                    That's 350 billion plus an ADDITONAL 800 billion = 1.15 TRILLION dollars

                    And you REALLY are going to tell me he is going to bring "CHANGE"?
                    You won't get a response that involes answering the original question. He writes bush caused the banking problem... Yeah, he also made the auto industry make too many models of vehicles and starbucks have too many coffee's... Geez I wonder if he really believes this stuff or is trying the liberal spin.
                    Good point about spending the addional trillion dollars.If obama really wanted to help american we could suspend all payroll taxes for 5 monthswith that kind of money. This includes social security... Nope! He wants to spend spend! Trip calls it healing
                    A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. -Thomas Jefferson

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                    • #40
                      Re: Barack admits he lied.

                      Originally posted by busapig View Post
                      All except on 9/11 and except the 30934 wounded in Iraq since the war in Iraq began.



                      And Holy leader?? C'mon Stout--I know your High priest/cult leader Ron Paul tells you Barack Obama is the devil, but before you tie the man up and toss him on top of a pile of burning tires, take a step back, and look at the captain insane-o Ron Paul website from a non-beleivers perspective. He is not the next messiah.
                      This right here is what is wrong with America. You take a man like Ron Paul, a man of integrity who does not compromise his principles of individual liberty for lobbyist or any other short term gain. He promotes a capitalism economic system and your calling him a cult leader. When a rational man is laughed at, demeaned and referred to as a mystic that shows us how phucked up our society is. And yet, Obama is off making speeches of complete rhetoric and his "followers" think he is going to change the world; they don't know how and they don't care as long as he looks good and sounds good telling them he's going to do it. Out of the two, if one is to be referred to as a cult leader - it is Obama!

                      But hey he gives a bunch of people false hope and dreams and in our society the instant gratification of false hope is more important than someone actually having the ideology to fix things.

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                      • #41
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                        Originally posted by Klash View Post
                        This right here is what is wrong with America. You take a man like Ron Paul, a man of integrity who does not compromise his principles of individual liberty for lobbyist or any other short term gain. He promotes a capitalism economic system and your calling him a cult leader. When a rational man is laughed at, demeaned and referred to as a mystic that shows us how phucked up our society is. And yet, Obama is off making speeches of complete rhetoric and his "followers" think he is going to change the world; they don't know how and they don't care as long as he looks good and sounds good telling them he's going to do it. Out of the two, if one is to be referred to as a cult leader - it is Obama!

                        But hey he gives a bunch of people false hope and dreams and in our society the instant gratification of false hope is more important than someone actually having the ideology to fix things.
                        Totally agree with you Klash. I like Ron Paul. I didn't agree with him on everything but he was the only one during the primaries that I didn't seem to be lying through his teeth to get elected.

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                        • #42
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                          If ron paul would of had the same ideas of the war as mccain did then I would of looked at him and studied him and learnd more about him.
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                          • #43
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                            I say it one more time, lol...........

                            ron paul is right, yet, he is a HORRIBLE representative for the cause, he is a TERRIBLE COMMUNICATOR............he talks way over 80% of the populations head...........and he GOES OFF ON TANGENTS.....because he is extremely knolwedgeable

                            twenty years from now, Libertarians will rule, they need a better leader, all the ones are older white guys, who basically complain about this and that, even though they are right in there views, it is not how u build a consensus

                            paul, got all his support from the inet college kids, who will make it happen twenty years from now, cause they are true believers, and other libetarians who also believe

                            think if libertarains like gays twenty years ago, tolerated yet off too the side, now gays are generally accepted everywhere

                            it is a societal shift due to demographics

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                            • #44
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                              Originally posted by trip View Post
                              I say it one more time, lol...........

                              ron paul is right, yet, he is a HORRIBLE representative for the cause, he is a TERRIBLE COMMUNICATOR............he talks way over 80% of the populations head...........and he GOES OFF ON TANGENTS.....because he is extremely knolwedgeable

                              twenty years from now, Libertarians will rule, they need a better leader, all the ones are older white guys, who basically complain about this and that, even though they are right in there views, it is not how u build a consensus

                              paul, got all his support from the inet college kids, who will make it happen twenty years from now, cause they are true believers, and other libetarians who also believe

                              think if libertarains like gays twenty years ago, tolerated yet off too the side, now gays are generally accepted everywhere

                              it is a societal shift due to demographics
                              Talks over people's heads? Tangents? He always talks in a clear, conscise, reasonable approach. I think your mistaken again. I've never even seen him get mad and I've studied him intensely. He may be upset with things but he never goes even remotely overboard.

                              He doesn't complain about this and that. He lets you know what's wrong and he offers solutions to the problems and he does to EVERY problem he has ever mentioned. He has a plan of attack or an idea to fix what ever he doesn't agree with and it's based upon our constitution and sound basic principles that our founding fathers created for us. If you think that is over your head then that is why you and the majority of this country voted for Obama b/c you don't even understand the basic principles that this country was founded on. So I'm sorry he isn't out of step with anyone, its the people of America who have lost their idea of what it is to be "AMERICAN".

                              What the hell are you talking about Libertarians and gays for?
                              Thomas Jefferson - "When the government fears the people there is liberty; when the people fear the government there is tyranny."


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                              • #45
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                                Originally posted by trip View Post
                                I say it one more time, lol...........

                                ron paul is right, yet, he is a HORRIBLE representative for the cause, he is a TERRIBLE COMMUNICATOR............he talks way over 80% of the populations head...........and he GOES OFF ON TANGENTS.....because he is extremely knolwedgeable

                                twenty years from now, Libertarians will rule, they need a better leader, all the ones are older white guys, who basically complain about this and that, even though they are right in there views, it is not how u build a consensus

                                paul, got all his support from the inet college kids, who will make it happen twenty years from now, cause they are true believers, and other libetarians who also believe

                                think if libertarains like gays twenty years ago, tolerated yet off too the side, now gays are generally accepted everywhere

                                it is a societal shift due to demographics
                                He could be a little better on presentation but the major challenge Libertarians face is they are trying to offer and explain a philosophy to a pragmatic society (meaning our society doesn't care if their beliefs are inconsistent and hypocritical). So when a Libertarian says drugs should be legalized, the pragmatist thinks the Libertarian is a druggie or wants to be a druggie. They can't see how just one issue, like the drug war, that they feel is justifiable because it prevents immorality, can undermine the whole concept of individual rights.

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