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  • #31
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    good mechanically, lol

    see machines can't talk back to him, he takes his own time, and works on them at his own, pace, and since machines work in black and white terms that fits his thinking patterns

    honestly, it's a big decision making issue, he makes decisions based on least amount of pain, almost always, he has a hard time understanding others emotions, even his own, so it's super hard too change

    here's a couple of suggestions:

    1. Stop the trailer talk, or any talk of failure, that stress's him out too the max and makes him shut down, not listen to you. For most of us it's a joke, for him it's a trigger that instills fear, cause he knows he's avoiding the issue and the day of reckoning will come and he's not prepared.

    2. Over the next 3 months, yup, 3 months, try and spend a few hours alone with him a week. Just you and him, either going to dinner, lunch, or some guy ****. When your alone, praise praise praise praise praise him, criticism changes almost no one, no way. Try and point out the good things about him that you see and know are valuable, good bet he hasn't heard words like that in 4-5 years. Listen to what his thoughts are on this and that, and do not tell him he's wrong, just say hmmmmm, that's interesting, or tell me more, or that's a unique way of looking at things. Again, you want to understand him first before you can help him.

    3. Talk about all the great benefits of being an adult with a good career and family, and the most important things in life and why.

    4. Tell him you proud of him for even the smallest of reasons, drugs, saying thank you or whatever.


    Persist with this plan, and report back, lol.

    I know it's a pain, yet, have a good history of it working very well, just takes time.

    After we know how he thinks, then we can start to teach life lessons in ways he understands them.

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    • #32
      Re: THOSE WITH OLDER KIDS

      dude...nothings a pain. i can do that...i can do that without a doubt. we used to be like that...really! up until he was about 15, that was us...we ran together. then...he went with his friend (witch ever 1 it was at the time) and i went on with work and my other 2 kids. i gots no prob. giving it 90days...and i'll let ya know how it's going (was really looking for something a weee bit faster!! lol)...the trailor talk shyt might be a little tuff...it is pretty funny! i'll do it
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      • #33
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        cool, good too hear dave

        it's like that friend ho thing,

        if he's alwyas been a kid with few friends in high school, it's like getting a new women, lol, it's more exciting for him, than the good old family or old friends type of stuff, very exciting due to the hypersensitivity, also, since he's non-confrontational, they'll always be someone in high school that will hook up with him friends wise, cause he's not threatening and laid back

        it might be a bit quicker, yet, where talking about changing decisions making process's, thinking patterns that have been engrained for long time, and used a zillion times

        what we're looking for is if we think of it like computer code, we're hunting for those one or two bad lines of code that are connected to all the others, that influence decisions, and since we can't open up his brain, we have to be patient, listen, and we should be able to deciver ( sp ) what it is

        oh, and that's about a grand of counseling there, bro', just kidding, if you ned anything specific wise you can pm

        latah and good luck

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        • #34
          Re: THOSE WITH OLDER KIDS

          Do you think that he is going to finish school? I think that you said he is going to have to stay another year, do you think he will even though his friends are going to be gone? If not you are fighting a losing battle you need to make sure that he gets his GED and send him on his way. There are no free rides in life He needs to start to see the realities of life. Have him get a job end of story. If he is not helping out around the house he needs to be chipping in financially (you can always put that in an account and give it to him when he moves out) Give him a timeline and stick to it even though it will probably be hard for everyone. Also, make sure that everyone is behind you, your wifey and the father if not it will be pointless. At that age they need to discover it for themselves they will probably hate you for a while but in the long run you will really be helping them out

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          • #35
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            time i got....i'll try anything that'll work. no-one wants to send their kid into the world without proper tools!! i'll be hitting you up on some pm's once i make a little headway. thanks trip.
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            • #36
              Re: THOSE WITH OLDER KIDS

              Originally posted by Merc View Post
              Do you think that he is going to finish school? I think that you said he is going to have to stay another year, do you think he will even though his friends are going to be gone? If not you are fighting a losing battle you need to make sure that he gets his GED and send him on his way. There are no free rides in life He needs to start to see the realities of life. Have him get a job end of story. If he is not helping out around the house he needs to be chipping in financially (you can always put that in an account and give it to him when he moves out) Give him a timeline and stick to it even though it will probably be hard for everyone. Also, make sure that everyone is behind you, your wifey and the father if not it will be pointless. At that age they need to discover it for themselves they will probably hate you for a while but in the long run you will really be helping them out
              yea, he'll finish school. as i've said before, he's never, ever finished anything ever, in his entire life...but, and he knows this, he'll finish school by next jan. or i'll kick the living snot out of him...thats the one thing i will not waver on!!! no-way...i didnt get my dip. i ged'd out...he's not going that route. his dad is a good man. until we moved up here, he was very active in the kids life. he flys down to fla to see him 3-4 times a year. he say's "do what you gotta do, we've all had to take an azz whiping now and then, it may be time for his"..mom...thats diff. it's the only thing i could ever consider a complaint i have with her....she still treats him like he's 12....i'm gonna give trip's ideal a try...it's something i havnt done yet. he's right, the kid clams up at the threats...i'll try this way. maybe it can be like it was...
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              • #37
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                just kick the phuck out of him
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                • #38
                  Re: THOSE WITH OLDER KIDS

                  Originally posted by pigmeat View Post
                  just kick the phuck out of him
                  that was my first instinct!!! thats what the ol' man says he needs, lol
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                  • #39
                    Re: THOSE WITH OLDER KIDS

                    wait.. i think i missed something.. is he your real son or adopted.. ?

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