Did the U.S. government plan and carry out the attacks of September 11th?

[daved150]

Re: Did the U.S. government plan and carry out the attacks of September 11th?

sometimes i think dj LIVES in a land of confussion....but, i luv ya buddy!

[solidground]

Re: Did the U.S. government plan and carry out the attacks of September 11th?

rather be with conspiracy "nuts" then the sheeple..dave if i didnt know better id swear you really have not read one of our posts and taken them into consideration..you still think conspiracy people think bush is of importance.

[solidground]

Re: Did the U.S. government plan and carry out the attacks of September 11th?

FBI Knowingly Allowed Bin Laden To Personally Charter Flight After 9/11
Newly released documents prove agency let Osama's family go at his request without even questioning them
Steve Watson
Prison Planet
Thursday, June 21, 2007


The FBI were aware that Osama Bin Laden may have chartered one of the flights that took Bin Laden family members out of the U.S. in the days after the 9/11 attacks, yet allowed the planes to depart without even questioning them, new Agency documents reveal.

While all other air traffic had been grounded for days by the authorities they knowingly allowed the immediate family of their prime suspect behind the attacks to get into planes and fly out at Bin Laden's own request.

The previously confidential documents (PDF link) have been obtained by Judicial Watch through the Freedom of Information Act and ongoing litigation.

The documents state:

ON 9/19/01, A 727 PLANE LEFT LAX, RYAN FLT #441 TO ORLANDO, FL W/ETA (estimated time of arrival) OF 4-5PM. THE PLANE WAS CHARTERED EITHER BY THE SAUDI ARABIAN ROYAL FAMILY OR OSAMA BIN LADEN…THE LA FBI SEARCHED THE PLANE [REDACTED] LUGGAGE, OF WHICH NOTHING UNUSUAL WAS FOUND.

Traffic control reports show that the plane made four stops to pick up passengers and was then allowed to depart the United States for Paris where all passengers disembarked on 9/20/01.

The documents reveal that the FBI did not consider a single Saudi national nor any of the Bin Laden family worthy of investigative value.


Furthermore, Judicial Watch's examination of the documents has revealed that they contain numerous errors and inconsistencies which show the FBI’s investigation of the Saudi flights to be woefully inadequate and almost non existent.

For example, in one document, the FBI claims to have interviewed 20 of 23 passengers on the Ryan International Airlines flight (commonly referred to as the “Bin Laden Family Flight”) while a second FBI document claims only to have interviewed 15 of 22 passengers on the same flight.

“Eight days after the worst terrorist attack in U.S. history, Osama bin Laden possibly charters a flight to whisk his family out of the country, and it’s not worth more than a luggage search and a few brief interviews?” asked Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. “Clearly these documents prove the FBI conducted a slapdash investigation of these Saudi flights. We’ll never know how many investigative leads were lost due to the FBI’s lack of diligence.”

U.S. District Court Judge Richard W. Roberts ordered the FBI to resubmit “proper disclosures” to the Court and Judicial Watch, leading to these incredible findings.

It was revealed that the FBI had previously redacted Osama Bin Laden’s name from the records in order “to protect privacy interests.”



Note the previously blacked out "Osama Bin Laden" - privacy interests? get real.

The documents provide clear proof that the FBI was protecting the Bin Laden while the rest of the world was being told that he had masterminded the biggest terror attack in history. The FBI then attempted to cover up this fact.

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An FBI spokesman said the information in the documents is inaccurate.

"There is no new information here. Osama bin Laden did not charter a flight out of the US," FBI special agent Richard Kolko said.

Nothing to see here, move along.

Kolko then cited the 9/11 Commission Report which determined that the FBI did conduct a thorough enough investigation, despite the fact that its own documents contradict each other on basic facts such as how many people were on a plane. Remember also that the same 9/11 Commission report failed to even mention the collapse of building 7, a 47 story skyscraper that wasn't hit by anything on 9/11 and in which many people lost their lives according to witnesses.

Perhaps the FBI allowed Bin Laden to charter the flight and take all his family members out of the USA because they know he is not a suspect. The FBI's most wanted page for Osama bin Laden still does not include an apportion of blame for 9/11 and there has still been no formal indictment of Bin Laden almost six years after 9/11.

The protection of Bin Laden by federal authorities has been ongoing since BEFORE 9/11 when agents were told to 'back off the Bin Laden family' in order to protect business interests that the Bush family had with the Bin Ladens and other Saudi nationals.

The FBI asserts that no one on the planes that left had any terrorist links. yet documents (specifically FBI document 199I WF213589) found back in November 2001 prove this to be a falsehood.

The FBI was on the trail of bin Laden family members living in the US before September 11. A document showed that special agents from the Washington field office were investigating Abdullah, a close relative of Osama, because of his relationship with the World Assembly of Muslim Youth (WAMY), a suspected terrorist organisation, it said.

The Times of India reported at the time:

The report, which the BBC claimed was based on a secret FBI document, numbered 199I WF213589 and emanating out of the FBI’s Washington field office, alleged that the cynicism of the American establishment and "connections between the CIA and Saudi Arabia and the Bush men and bin Ladens" may have been the real cause of the deaths of thousands in the World Trade Centre attacks.

The Bin Laden family are business people, they are not as many would have it hardcore fundamentalist muslim extremists that live in caves in Afghanistan. Here is young Osama lounging around a pink Cadillac with his siblings looking very fashionable in the 1970s.



In the 1980s George W Bush made millions on the back of a company financed by Osama Bin Laden's elder brother, Salem. In addition both presidents Bush had lucrative stakes along with the Bin Ladens in The Carlyle Group which has gone on to become one of America's biggest defence contractors.

On the very morning of 9/11 George W. Bush's father was meeting with Osama bin Laden's brother, Shafig Bin Laden, in the Ritz-Carlton Hotel on Carlyle Group business. The Bin Ladens sold their stake in Carlyle soon after 9/11.

FBI Special agent Robert Wright broke down when testifying that he had been gagged and could not reveal the true extent of what he knew about the Bush-Bin Laden connection and 9/11. His lawyer stepped up and said live on C-Span that "The Bush Family vacations with the Bin Ladens".

The ties run deep and all lead to money, huge amounts of money. This is how the Bushes do business, this is how they have always done business, they own the best enemies money can buy and the latest revelations underscore the fact that an independent and thorough investigation into 9/11 and the Bush Administration's role in it is absolutely imperative

[DJDIGGLER]

Re: Did the U.S. government plan and carry out the attacks of September 11th?

I love you guys! Daved your right I do live in a land of confusion. Confused at why so many people just don't get it!...........OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[daved150]

Re: Did the U.S. government plan and carry out the attacks of September 11th?

first off solid, i've read ALL your post's...it's the same 6-7 that you just copy and paste all over the place, how could i not read them! (j/k with ya bro, dont get bunched up)...
i also heard, read, or seen info on bin ladens family leaving the country right after 9/11. i was just as pissed as you, but what i dont understand is why that makes a differance in your little world. bin laden and/or family had nothing to do with the tregedy orcastrated by the us government...why should they be stopped and questioned?...

also, you conspeiracy nuts need me!! yep, you heard it right...without me, you'd have nothing to say to no-one. everyone would just blindly follow you (and the people you follow) into the whole of dispair. so, to that i say....your welcome. i'll continue to read, and listen to what you say...filter out the bullshyt, and regurgitate it out at ya at a time of my choosing. what points you do make, that make sence will be noted, but then, those points will be discarded as i (we) move on with our day to day lives.
dont ever stop doing that thing you do!!

[DJDIGGLER]

Re: Did the U.S. government plan and carry out the attacks of September 11th?

first off solid, i've read ALL your post's...it's the same 6-7 that you just copy and paste all over the place, how could i not read them! (j/k with ya bro, dont get bunched up)...
i also heard, read, or seen info on bin ladens family leaving the country right after 9/11. i was just as pissed as you, but what i dont understand is why that makes a differance in your little world. bin laden and/or family had nothing to do with the tregedy orcastrated by the us government...why should they be stopped and questioned?...

also, you conspeiracy nuts need me!! yep, you heard it right...without me, you'd have nothing to say to no-one. everyone would just blindly follow you (and the people you follow) into the whole of dispair. so, to that i say....your welcome. i'll continue to read, and listen to what you say...filter out the bullshyt, and regurgitate it out at ya at a time of my choosing. what points you do make, that make sence will be noted, but then, those points will be discarded as i (we) move on with our day to day lives.
dont ever stop doing that thing you do!!

If I could I'd take a dump in a bag and leave it on your porch!

[daved150]

Re: Did the U.S. government plan and carry out the attacks of September 11th?

lmao!! and i'd fall for it, naturally!

[HeHateMe]

Re: Did the U.S. government plan and carry out the attacks of September 11th?

haha this thread is still tickin'

[daved150]

Re: Did the U.S. government plan and carry out the attacks of September 11th?

woowhoo!! i LOVE this thread...

[Scalleywag]

Re: Did the U.S. government plan and carry out the attacks of September 11th?

If you think the American gov. is bad you should take a look at Russia. I watched the Dateline special last night about the ex-KGB operative that was assassinated by use of polonium.

While still with the KGB he was asked indirectly by Putin (whom was not President at the time) to assassinate a friend of his. He refused but instead went public. That obviously didn't set well with a number of Russian officials who swore to repay him.

Fast forward 10 years, the ex-KGB guy is living in England making a living as a writer. He is of course writing everything he knows about the KGB and how crooked the Russian gov. is. He turns up sick on day and after three weeks of his organs being eaten by by this sickness they find out it is radiation poisoning. Polonium to be exact.

Polonium is made in nuclear reactors and is a state controled substance. Only about a glass full of this stuff is made annually world wide. Russia is the biggest maker of polonium. He ex-KGB guy said before he died that it was Putin. Well they caught the guy who poisoned him directly but of course Russia won't extradite him to Enbland to stand trial.

On last thing. Not only did the ex-KGB guy die but a couple of months later his friend whom is a writer in England that aslo wrote anti-Russia papers died from unknown causes. Also, and American expert on Russia that spoke about Russia during the making of Dateline was gunned down at his home in Maryland just after the segment aired the first time.

Oh yeah, the polonium poison was used to send a message from Russia to everyone that speaks out against them. So with that said let me just say how much I love Russia. They are the coolest country on the planet and I don't agree one bit with what Dateline said about them. Putin is so awesome I wish he was our President.

[daved150]

Re: Did the U.S. government plan and carry out the attacks of September 11th?

yep...russia's phuked up. i remember that whole thing. that guy suffered big time! but, was it really a surprize to him, being a former kgb agent, that this was one of the only outcomes there could have been? dude ran his mouth, what did he think was gonna happen? glad i dont live there

[DJDIGGLER]

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he maybe a zionist p.o.s. in your opinion but, as you admit, that dosent mean he knew anything about anything...he got insurance....it very well may be simple as that!!

Simple as that?

Gee I don't find it just a tad bit coincidental that he made the policy to include terrorist attacks, and made it so he would recieve $1 billion per incident.

Being that the buildings were attacked seperately by two different planes, it was seen as two different attacks and therefore he qualified for double his payout. The insurance company fought it and lost in court.

Hmmmm......He really had nothing to gain. And if all the other stuff like Bush's brother running the security company for the buildings, weird construction work being reported by many tenants, and the building being evacuated, shut down, Guards and dogs also ordered out and security shut off for a whole weekend while Securacom (Bush's brothers company) installs CABLE INTERNET UPGRADES, doesn't strike you as a little coincidental. Then nothing will get through to you.

But your right Daved. There is no corruption these days. There are no crooked politicians. Big business does not have any politicians in their back pockets. And our government has our best interest in mind, not the best interest of the rich and powerful. i'm glad you made me see the light!

[DJDIGGLER]

Re: Did the U.S. government plan and carry out the attacks of September 11th?

If you think the American gov. is bad you should take a look at Russia. I watched the Dateline special last night about the ex-KGB operative that was assassinated by use of polonium.

While still with the KGB he was asked indirectly by Putin (whom was not President at the time) to assassinate a friend of his. He refused but instead went public. That obviously didn't set well with a number of Russian officials who swore to repay him.

Fast forward 10 years, the ex-KGB guy is living in England making a living as a writer. He is of course writing everything he knows about the KGB and how crooked the Russian gov. is. He turns up sick on day and after three weeks of his organs being eaten by by this sickness they find out it is radiation poisoning. Polonium to be exact.

Polonium is made in nuclear reactors and is a state controled substance. Only about a glass full of this stuff is made annually world wide. Russia is the biggest maker of polonium. He ex-KGB guy said before he died that it was Putin. Well they caught the guy who poisoned him directly but of course Russia won't extradite him to Enbland to stand trial.

On last thing. Not only did the ex-KGB guy die but a couple of months later his friend whom is a writer in England that aslo wrote anti-Russia papers died from unknown causes. Also, and American expert on Russia that spoke about Russia during the making of Dateline was gunned down at his home in Maryland just after the segment aired the first time.

Oh yeah, the polonium poison was used to send a message from Russia to everyone that speaks out against them. So with that said let me just say how much I love Russia. They are the coolest country on the planet and I don't agree one bit with what Dateline said about them. Putin is so awesome I wish he was our President.

Russia and China is just as bad Scalley. It's quite sad that there really doesn't exist any truly free country anymore, and there is no country that truly has the best interest of the people in mind.

[daved150]

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But your right Daved. There is no corruption these days. There are no crooked politicians. Big business does not have any politicians in their back pockets. And our government has our best interest in mind, not the best interest of the rich and powerful. i'm glad you made me see the light!

i've stated numerous times that i believe there IS curroption in politics...i know, my believing that, dont play into your program, but non the less, i firmly believe there is curroption in all levels of government, that there has been for many, many years, that there will be forever more....now what?...just becouse i dont blindly follow your way of thinking, your points of views or you OPINIONS on certain matters dont mean i dont KNOW there is corruption...for someone who preaches for everyone else to open their eyes...for everyone else NOT to follow the herd, you sure think your the lead lamb! if i blindly follow you...this would be ok, in your opinion. if i disagree, i'm incorrect. your all for the constitution, your all for freedom of speech, just as long as it dont contradict you....you want people to think for themselves, open their minds, think outside the box...as long as they agree with you..ok bro, i'll follow your lead, where do i stand in line. feel better?

[DJDIGGLER]

Re: Did the U.S. government plan and carry out the attacks of September 11th?

i've stated numerous times that i believe there IS curroption in politics...i know, my believing that, dont play into your program, but non the less, i firmly believe there is curroption in all levels of government, that there has been for many, many years, that there will be forever more....now what?...just becouse i dont blindly follow your way of thinking, your points of views or you OPINIONS on certain matters dont mean i dont KNOW there is corruption...for someone who preaches for everyone else to open their eyes...for everyone else NOT to follow the herd, you sure think your the lead lamb! if i blindly follow you...this would be ok, in your opinion. if i disagree, i'm incorrect. your all for the constitution, your all for freedom of speech, just as long as it dont contradict you....you want people to think for themselves, open their minds, think outside the box...as long as they agree with you..ok bro, i'll follow your lead, where do i stand in line. feel better?

There's a difference in having a difference in opinion, and almost making it a quest to twist everything I post. Anyone that is logical that would read the majority of your posts would come to the conclusion that you do not believe there is corruption. I don't know how else your posts could be interpreted.

You find any type of 'Conspiracy theory' far fetched & impossible, yet in the next post you say you believe in corruption! So if you believe in corruption how is it so far fetched? How is the whole 911 thing so far fetched? Why is it far fetched that we are concentrating on all oil countries to take over? Corruption maybe?

Sit and use some logic for a second.....Afghanistan, Iraq, and now possibly Iran. hmmmmmmmmmm.......All oil rich countries. Not coincidental at all. Good call!