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  • #76
    Re: Canada is spying on america HAHAHAHA!

    Originally posted by solidground View Post
    it took us 6 days to even get there..all guns were confiscated from peoples homes..if you didnt see that there was perhaps the biggest federal meltdown in our history of a country i dont know what your looking at.
    Ignorance is bliss Solid. These guys are just like the women who get beat by their husbands, they always try to defend them, and can never admit to themselves that the person they love is abusing them.

    These guys love their country, but can't admit to themselves that their being taken for a fool. Instead of doing research to put it to bed, they just fall in line and do what their told like good little soldiers.

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    • #77
      Re: Canada is spying on america HAHAHAHA!

      Originally posted by solidground View Post
      it took us 6 days to even get there..all guns were confiscated from peoples homes..if you didnt see that there was perhaps the biggest federal meltdown in our history of a country i dont know what your looking at.
      Ok, what do you think had to take place to feed all those people? Do you think the government just had dozens of trucks already loaded with food sitting in a wharehouse just out of spite? Seriously? First, it happened, then the damage report had to come in, then the game plan had to be put together, then the supplies and trucks had to be rounded up, and then they had to drive all the way down there. Do you really expect all that to happen in two days? Also, and this is a fact, the trucks were stopped outside of the city by the government because gangs or whoever were shooting at them. I'm not talking about the guns in peoples homes, I'm talking about the guns in people's hands. It was all over the news bro. But, either way, I worked in trucking for a few years and you don't just put something like that together overnight. The trucks must be rounded up, for all you know, half of those trucks probably took 2-3 days just to get to the food pick up place. It all depends on what those trucks were doing when this took place. I mean, you don't really think teh goverment just had all these trucks sitting around and all this food just sitting aroudn do you? Of course you don't, so you realize the organization it would have taken to get all that rounded up. It's not something that happens in a day or two, it takes time to get all that in place and ready to go. Then, once everything is there, it takes days to drive there. It's not like car, it's an 18 wheeler and there are laws as to how many hours and miles they are allowed to drive a day. Maybe the government let them bend those rules, maybe they didn't. I don't think you really understand how complicated it would have been to get all that to come together at the that time and sent down there. You are talking about alot of stuff that all had to be cancelled and so forth just to get that many trucks together. And, if most of those trucks already had loads on them, I'm sure they had to wait for them to make the delivery before they could get the trucks back. You have to look at ALL the possiblities before you can just rely on one thing like 'it took 6 days' because I'm actually surprised they did it that fast considereing all the obsticals they probably had to hurdle to make it happen. But then again, I have a trucking back ground so I'm full aware of all the obstacles.
      I used to have superhuman powers....until my therapist took them away.

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      • #78
        Re: Canada is spying on america HAHAHAHA!

        Originally posted by DJDIGGLER View Post
        Ignorance is bliss Solid. These guys are just like the women who get beat by their husbands, they always try to defend them, and can never admit to themselves that the person they love is abusing them.

        These guys love their country, but can't admit to themselves that their being taken for a fool. Instead of doing research to put it to bed, they just fall in line and do what their told like good little soldiers.
        And suckers are sucker bro. They will fall for anything that's wrapped up in nice wrapping or that has a pretty enough bow. lol
        I used to have superhuman powers....until my therapist took them away.

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        • #79
          Re: Canada is spying on america HAHAHAHA!

          Looks like BIG N was banned..should'of never personally attacked anyone here but some of his posts did make sense..Now since we are all talking about all this BS let me add a few things here.

          I can assure you the entire world hates the US.. just like the entire world hates the muslims.. The entire world thinks all muslims are terrorist when in fact that is false.. and the entire world thinks all Americans are f-up.. just like Bush and that is a big FALSE.

          What now ?? Saddam is dead.. he is gone.. mission accomplished BUSH.. Do us all a fukin favor and pull out the troops.. and bring em back home. We have serious problems in our own fuking country..and he seems to be more involved helping other countries then his own..well TBH he never really went to IRAQ to help "Iraqis".. we all know why he went there.

          Now.. I've been reading for years now.. how he wants IRAQI's to succeed and have freedom BLAH BLAH BLAH..

          NEWS FLASH.. They are not fuking IRAQI's they are KURDS...that are threated in Iraq just like illegal mexicans are treated here in the US..

          Would you be pissed if illegal mexicans came and started to OWN US.. ??? I bet every American would be pissed off..same thing there.. There is 3 different people in IRAQ.. True IRAQI'S that always backed up Saddam Hussein..he was their leader..their pride..their everything they believed in him.. and he gave them everything.. KURDS were NOTHING.. piece of garbage.. that no IRAQI wanted in their country..PERIOD.. they came and INVADED Iraq.. and sh!t.. HOW MANY OF YOU DO U KNOW THIS..?

          But anyways... 350 billion dollars..for the war in Iraq.. all that money.. comes from.. our paychecks.. PERIOD.. and its just ****ed up.. that MY MONEY THAT I WORK FOR HAS TO GO TO ANOTHER FUKIN COUNTRY TO SUPPORT KURDS.. its pathetic..

          Now.. LET ME TELL YOU THIS.. The US ARMY is one of the weakest ARMY'S in the world. And here's why.. we have fuking 18 years old children that are high school dropouts..and couldn't succeed here in the US.. so they are worthless.. and cant do anything in life..so HERE take a gun in ur hand and go kill someone for fun.. quit playin those video games at home.. when you can do those things in real life.

          We don't have TRAINED real soldiers..

          Check this out.. there was a video on YOUTUBE.. couple of soldiers.. WHO DIDN'T FUKIN KNOW how to use AK-47.. they were strugglin..

          Its sad to see 18 yerold go there and DIE.. just because his life here in the states was miserable..

          I cant wait till the day BUSH is replaced.. I'm not saying the new PRESIDENT will be any better.. they all same piece of sh!t.. they ain't gonna send me money to my home..they all have same policies..same mindwork.. but at least I won't be seeing Bush anymore..


          Thats all for now.

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          • #80
            Re: Canada is spying on america HAHAHAHA!

            Originally posted by T-Man007 View Post
            Ok, what do you think had to take place to feed all those people? Do you think the government just had dozens of trucks already loaded with food sitting in a wharehouse just out of spite? Seriously? First, it happened, then the damage report had to come in, then the game plan had to be put together, then the supplies and trucks had to be rounded up, and then they had to drive all the way down there. Do you really expect all that to happen in two days? Also, and this is a fact, the trucks were stopped outside of the city by the government because gangs or whoever were shooting at them. I'm not talking about the guns in peoples homes, I'm talking about the guns in people's hands. It was all over the news bro. But, either way, I worked in trucking for a few years and you don't just put something like that together overnight. The trucks must be rounded up, for all you know, half of those trucks probably took 2-3 days just to get to the food pick up place. It all depends on what those trucks were doing when this took place. I mean, you don't really think teh goverment just had all these trucks sitting around and all this food just sitting aroudn do you? Of course you don't, so you realize the organization it would have taken to get all that rounded up. It's not something that happens in a day or two, it takes time to get all that in place and ready to go. Then, once everything is there, it takes days to drive there. It's not like car, it's an 18 wheeler and there are laws as to how many hours and miles they are allowed to drive a day. Maybe the government let them bend those rules, maybe they didn't. I don't think you really understand how complicated it would have been to get all that to come together at the that time and sent down there. You are talking about alot of stuff that all had to be cancelled and so forth just to get that many trucks together. And, if most of those trucks already had loads on them, I'm sure they had to wait for them to make the delivery before they could get the trucks back. You have to look at ALL the possiblities before you can just rely on one thing like 'it took 6 days' because I'm actually surprised they did it that fast considereing all the obsticals they probably had to hurdle to make it happen. But then again, I have a trucking back ground so I'm full aware of all the obstacles.
            Again ignorance is bliss! Have you ever heard of something called weather predictions? Down in Florida we knew it was going to hit there, and that it was going to be atleast a category 3 about 4 days before it even made landfall. So with this information the government is supposed to do a thing called preperations. Which involves getting things ready for the aftermath.

            Plus if your such an expert in everything, you'd know that Katrina did the damage it did because the government didn't heed the experts warnings to upgrade the levys because the weren't enough to withstand a big storm. They said New Orleans would be 10 feet underwater if any catastrophic storm hit. The government ignored them. Guess who was right!

            So go on in your world of ignorance. Until people open their eyes, our country will always be f'd up. You would have done great in medievil england. Fall in line, and believe everything your government says! Absolutely unbelievable!

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            • #81
              Re: Canada is spying on america HAHAHAHA!

              Originally posted by T-Man007 View Post
              And suckers are sucker bro. They will fall for anything that's wrapped up in nice wrapping or that has a pretty enough bow. lol
              Yeah and you'd know because you take the time to study both sides of the story right?!

              You'd make a great cop, you automatically know the truth from just hearing one side of the story!

              That's the difference between you and me. I study both sides, before I open my mouth and start blasting off opinions as if they were fact!

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              • #82
                Re: Canada is spying on america HAHAHAHA!

                Diggi it's good to see your not in the dark.

                Btw, I never knew that info on the kurds. That's pretty interesting!

                Also it's not just your checks that are stripped for this war, it's the gas you put in your car too. I love how we take over an oil rich country and all of a sudden our prices soar. People compare it to the Iran crisis in the 80's. The difference is WE DIDN'T INVADE IRAN, WE INVADED IRAQ! WE CONTROL THEIR OIL!

                So knowing that I'd love for someone to give me some lame asss excuse about opec and all of this other garbage. I don't care what they think they know. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that....

                1. We control Iraq's oil now. Even if they do sometimes sabotage deliveries, it's free oil we didn't have before. If you believe otherwise, your naive!

                2. We aren't at war with the saudi's and actually we are in good with them, so even if we were to get our oil from them, why would they just decide to jack up the price out of nowhere.

                3. THIS IS MY FAVORITE ONE....In 1997 I used to pay .92 cents for 93 octane gas. So are you honestly telling me that supply and demand got so out of control in the last ten years that it almost quadrupled in price?? HAHA yeah right. Get a freaking clue!

                4. Lastly, if it was truly opec (which it's not) that drove prices so high, how come our government has not removed all taxes from gas until prices fall back down to reasonable levels again? Higher gas prices equals more taxes going into the government. Do you think their complaining about the prices? HELL NO! They just gave themselves $10,000 raises (which was all over cnn) to offset the extra traveling expenses they were incurring.

                So again our government doesn't give a rat's asss about us. We're just a bunch of cows sitting in their concrete fields, making them money, while they live the good life!

                But maybe I'm just an ignorant buffon that imagines all of this stuff!

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                • #83
                  Re: Canada is spying on america HAHAHAHA!

                  dj...you keep jumpin on the katrina thing, but you gotta remember andrew...it wasnt like aid was there waiting for everyone before the storm (even though it was perdicted). i lived across the state. i shot across alligator alley to help. there wasnt nowhere near the logistical problems that aid workers had in NO (witch was like a bowl filled with standing water), but yet aid was nowhere to be found in holmstead/lauderdale....i brought water..i brought old blankets and clothes. now, you gotta admit, with andrew, the water receded faster, the infrastructure of the cities were planned better, the structures of most buildings were better preppared than the old building in a historic city like NO. i wont say the fed's were prepared. it's clear that they were not, but they wasnt prepared for andrew either, and yet nobody cries. we shoulda found kanye west to help us out i guess.
                  HE WHO MAKES A BEAST OF HIMSELF, GET'S RID OF THE PAIN OF BEING A MAN!!


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                  • #84
                    Re: Canada is spying on america HAHAHAHA!

                    Originally posted by daved150 View Post
                    dj...you keep jumpin on the katrina thing, but you gotta remember andrew...it wasnt like aid was there waiting for everyone before the storm (even though it was perdicted). i lived across the state. i shot across alligator alley to help. there wasnt nowhere near the logistical problems that aid workers had in NO (witch was like a bowl filled with standing water), but yet aid was nowhere to be found in holmstead/lauderdale....i brought water..i brought old blankets and clothes. now, you gotta admit, with andrew, the water receded faster, the infrastructure of the cities were planned better, the structures of most buildings were better preppared than the old building in a historic city like NO. i wont say the fed's were prepared. it's clear that they were not, but they wasnt prepared for andrew either, and yet nobody cries. we shoulda found kanye west to help us out i guess.
                    Yeah I do agree with you on the Andrew thing. Sad thing is it's not like the government doesn't have the capability to help, it's just poorly run!

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                    • #85
                      Re: Canada is spying on america HAHAHAHA!

                      Originally posted by DJDIGGLER View Post
                      Yeah I do agree with you on the Andrew thing. Sad thing is it's not like the government doesn't have the capability to help, it's just poorly run!
                      my point is that i dont really know how prepared one can be...ya know? i mean, realisticly, how do you really know the level of damage, what routes will be passable, who needs what and where they are holding up...it's gotta be a pretty tuff job. i dont think you can slam on this adminastration for katrina (there's other things, but not that), Clintons admin. didnt do any better with andrew. it just stikes me, when i hear stuff like what you were saying, it's someone grasping at straws just to slam on the gov. and try to futher their point...not very strong in my opinion. not jabbing ya bro...just stating my view
                      HE WHO MAKES A BEAST OF HIMSELF, GET'S RID OF THE PAIN OF BEING A MAN!!


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                      • #86
                        Re: Canada is spying on america HAHAHAHA!

                        Originally posted by DJDIGGLER View Post
                        Again ignorance is bliss! Have you ever heard of something called weather predictions? Down in Florida we knew it was going to hit there, and that it was going to be atleast a category 3 about 4 days before it even made landfall. So with this information the government is supposed to do a thing called preperations. Which involves getting things ready for the aftermath.

                        Plus if your such an expert in everything, you'd know that Katrina did the damage it did because the government didn't heed the experts warnings to upgrade the levys because the weren't enough to withstand a big storm. They said New Orleans would be 10 feet underwater if any catastrophic storm hit. The government ignored them. Guess who was right!

                        So go on in your world of ignorance. Until people open their eyes, our country will always be f'd up. You would have done great in medievil england. Fall in line, and believe everything your government says! Absolutely unbelievable!

                        LOL, you just proved my point! LOL

                        You just clearly stated that most of the damage was caused by the breaking of the levys. Thus, there was NO FUKIN WAY the government could have been prepared for what was going to happen. Thus, there was no way to know how much of anything they would need. Thus, there was no way to prepare until it happened. Thank you for supported my argument.

                        And I'm going to restate this for you because you obviously didn't read it in the other post. From now on, no more calling people ignorant or making immature smart ass comments about them being great cops or doing great in medevil times. That's a direct insult and it's a form of flaming. You don't like it, leave. But I'm sick and tired of you making these around the way statements which basically boil down to 'you are an idiot'. If you can't debate without resorting to immature comments like the ones in your last two posts to me, you will be banned.

                        Now that you have been warned, let's see if you can debate without being sarcastic or resorting to name calling or making immature remarks. And yes, they are immature because a mature person doesn't say stuff like 'So go on in your world of ignorance. Until people open their eyes, our country will always be f'd up. You would have done great in medievil england." A truely mature person would say 'well, I disagree with you but you are entitled to your opinion'.

                        I'm not playing around anymore, the next person who resorts to this type of flaming, and yes it is flaming because you are basically calling the person and idiot or stupid or whatever, gets banned. And no, this is not a fukin power trip, this is me doing my job on this board and inforcing the rules, which clearly state 'be respectful'. And making the kinds of remarks you make is NOT respectful. Respectful, by it's true deffinition, is excepting people for who they are and not insulting them for not being like you.

                        End of discussion!
                        I used to have superhuman powers....until my therapist took them away.

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                        • #87
                          Re: Canada is spying on america HAHAHAHA!

                          Originally posted by DIGGI View Post
                          I can assure you the entire world hates the US.. just like the entire world hates the muslims.. The entire world thinks all muslims are terrorist when in fact that is false.. and the entire world thinks all Americans are f-up.. just like Bush and that is a big FALSE.

                          What now ?? Saddam is dead.. he is gone.. mission accomplished BUSH.. Do us all a fukin favor and pull out the troops.. and bring em back home. We have serious problems in our own fuking country..and he seems to be more involved helping other countries then his own..well TBH he never really went to IRAQ to help "Iraqis".. we all know why he went there.

                          Now.. I've been reading for years now.. how he wants IRAQI's to succeed and have freedom BLAH BLAH BLAH..

                          NEWS FLASH.. They are not fuking IRAQI's they are KURDS...that are threated in Iraq just like illegal mexicans are treated here in the US..

                          Would you be pissed if illegal mexicans came and started to OWN US.. ??? I bet every American would be pissed off..same thing there.. There is 3 different people in IRAQ.. True IRAQI'S that always backed up Saddam Hussein..he was their leader..their pride..their everything they believed in him.. and he gave them everything.. KURDS were NOTHING.. piece of garbage.. that no IRAQI wanted in their country..PERIOD.. they came and INVADED Iraq.. and sh!t.. HOW MANY OF YOU DO U KNOW THIS..?

                          But anyways... 350 billion dollars..for the war in Iraq.. all that money.. comes from.. our paychecks.. PERIOD.. and its just ****ed up.. that MY MONEY THAT I WORK FOR HAS TO GO TO ANOTHER FUKIN COUNTRY TO SUPPORT KURDS.. its pathetic..

                          Now.. LET ME TELL YOU THIS.. The US ARMY is one of the weakest ARMY'S in the world. And here's why.. we have fuking 18 years old children that are high school dropouts..and couldn't succeed here in the US.. so they are worthless.. and cant do anything in life..so HERE take a gun in ur hand and go kill someone for fun.. quit playin those video games at home.. when you can do those things in real life.

                          We don't have TRAINED real soldiers..

                          Check this out.. there was a video on YOUTUBE.. couple of soldiers.. WHO DIDN'T FUKIN KNOW how to use AK-47.. they were strugglin..

                          Its sad to see 18 yerold go there and DIE.. just because his life here in the states was miserable..

                          I cant wait till the day BUSH is replaced.. I'm not saying the new PRESIDENT will be any better.. they all same piece of sh!t.. they ain't gonna send me money to my home..they all have same policies..same mindwork.. but at least I won't be seeing Bush anymore..


                          Thats all for now.
                          reps for ya and especially with the one that i have bolded.........

                          Bush is there for OIL, and not to help iraq, saddam is dead, game is over

                          bring back out soldiers from iraq, mission is accomplished...

                          VERY VERY TRUE, THE REST OF THE WORLD THINKS THAT AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE SO FOOOCKED UP LIKE BUSH, AND I DISAGREE BIG TIME.....
                          EXAMPLE: MY 2 UNCLES ARE MARRIED TO AMERICANS WHITE, THEY ARE THE NICEST PEOPLE THAT I EVER MET(VERY GENEROUS AND CARING) ADN NOT SAYING THAT COZ THEY ARE MARRIED TO MY 2 UNCLES....

                          THE ENTIRE WORLD HATE MUSLIMS AND THEY THINK THEY ARE BAD AND READY TO BOMB THEMESELVES, WHAT IS NOT TRUE, SOME OF EM ARE DOWN TO EARTH...

                          THEY BASICALLY LOOK AT THE LEADERS AND ****, IF THE LEADER IS BAD, THE FOLLOWERS ARE BAD, AND IF THE LEADER IS GOOD, THE FOLLOWERS ARE GOOD..
                          ENOUGH SAID FOR 2NITE

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                          • #88
                            Re: Canada is spying on america HAHAHAHA!

                            Originally posted by T-Man007 View Post
                            LOL, you just proved my point! LOL

                            You just clearly stated that most of the damage was caused by the breaking of the levys. Thus, there was NO FUKIN WAY the government could have been prepared for what was going to happen. Thus, there was no way to know how much of anything they would need. Thus, there was no way to prepare until it happened. Thank you for supported my argument.
                            How is it supporting your statement? The government was told by many experts the levy needed to be upgraded and would fail if a catastrophic storm were to come, and that New Orleans would be 10ft underwater. They were told this years before, not at the last second. But the government purposefully ignored them. So first off they didn't try to avoid a disaster when they could have. So YES they could have been prepared.

                            That's what I said before.

                            Also the government should have had a team ready to go as soon as they were given fair warning that a catastrophic storm was heading that way, ESPECIALLY because they knew it would be underwater due to their negligence of setting up proper levy's to protect the people.

                            It's quite sad that I knew here in Florida, that the storm was hitting there 5 days before it did. So If I knew and I'm just a citizen, why the hell didn't the government prepare for it?

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                            • #89
                              Re: Canada is spying on america HAHAHAHA!

                              Because of the reason you stated bro, no one 'knew' the levys 'would' break, therefore no one could have been prepared for that. Sure, there's always the hypothetical, but you can't run the government's resources based on hypotheticals. The assumption was I'm sure, 'we have a hurricane coming so get prepared' and then when the levys broke, it became a whole new plan. Basically, they had to start from scratch to meet the needs of the unexpected. Which was my point, there was no way they could have predicted exactly what happened so therefore, they were not prepared. Since you can not prepare for the unknown, they had to wait until they knew eactly how bad it was to begin preparations. Even if they did start to prepare for it, as soon as they found out the levys broke that would have put that plan to bed and a whole new one would have been worked up. As a result of the unexpected happening, they had to pull resources that weren't right at their finger tips and it took time. That was my whole point. Now, if you are under the assumption they knew 100% that the levys would break without a doubt, then that's where are opinions differ. Because whether they were weak or not, no one could know 100% for sure they would break. As a result, no one was prepared for the what actually happened.
                              I used to have superhuman powers....until my therapist took them away.

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                              • #90
                                Re: Canada is spying on america HAHAHAHA!

                                I never said noone knew!? I've now stated twice that they were warned years in advance by experts that the levy's needed to be upgraded otherwise new orleans would be 10ft underwater if a catastrophic storm hit.

                                I apologize if you feel I flamed you before. I guess we all get heated sometimes and it comes out the wrong way. I just get agitated when I type something multiple times and people don't read what I write, then say that I didn't say what I said.

                                No flaming meant, please go re read what I posted again so you understand you are not interpreting what I said correctly. Again that's not me flaming you, I'm just saying I don't think you read my post correctly. Once you read it again you'll realize I didn't say what you think I said.

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