A Civil debate on Abortion

[edvedr]

Originally posted by Kristylynn
That is a tough situation. IMO abortion is not acceptable, that is taking the easy way out. A woman may have a 9 month commitment to carrying the child, but if she wasn't ready for that she should not have spread her legs. I've actually been there before, I am a single mother with absolutely no support from the father. He has never paid me a dime, or for that matter seen his child (it's better that way in my case). It is tough, but I make it. My son has more love with just a mother than he would have had with both of us through his grandparents, aunts, etc. If I would have listened to his "sperm donnar" he wouldn't be here today. He is two now and I could not imagine my life with out him. A child deserves to live! If mom or dad or both are not interested, there are tons of people who are unable to have kids and would be overjoyed to adopt a little one and raise him/her like their own.

kristylynn, that is awesome that YOU were able to do that and i sure your son will thanks you later, but not everyone is as strong as you are or knows how to handle the situation, and eventually the kid is the one that pays for it. you say abortion is not an option and i would expect you to say that because you can't imagine life without your son. you son might be missing a father but you made up for that, most are not capable of doing so

[Got Gear?]

Well, as much as I may disagree with the choice, I think the women should have it.

Not everyone makes a good parent.

Some of you may be surprised to know that there is NO brain function whatsoever until the child reaches 3months. Up until this point, it's nothing more than a "growth inside a womens body" What that growth has the potential to become is unfortunately irrelevent.

I just wanted to comment on the foster kids statistics: They are irrelevent in this case. There's a BACKLOG of foster parents wishing to adopt infants and babies.

[m0chi69]

Originally posted by Got Gear?
I just wanted to comment on the foster kids statistics: They are irrelevent in this case. There's a BACKLOG of foster parents wishing to adopt infants and babies.

my issue with that is that if you really want to raise a child, why be only willing to adopt an infant? aren't those kids currently circulating in foster care children who are in need of love as well?

[Got Gear?]

Originally posted by m0chi69
my issue with that is that if you really want to raise a child, why be only willing to adopt an infant? aren't those kids currently circulating in foster care children who are in need of love as well?

Definately.

There's alot of people who want to adopt because they cannot have children of their own. They want to experience the whole child upbringing process.

There's alot of bonding that goes on in those infant years.

[Klash]

Originally posted by Got Gear?
There's a BACKLOG of foster parents wishing to adopt infants and babies.

well at 3,629 babies aborted every day (2000 statistic)? I bet that backlog would disapear pretty fast (maybe even the first day)!

That's what I mean by how long do you think it would take to flood the market! We would have unwanted children coming out our ears.

and if that didn't wipe out the backlog how about
110,397 babies aborted every month(2000)

see and the number would grow exponentially (with a ban on abortion) because those unwanted children would be having more unwanted children 15 years later. So on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on.........you get the pic.

[Got Gear?]

Well Klash,

I understand your point. I believe the current waiting list is something stupid like 3 years.

Problem is, you nor I can predict what will happen. And currently there's a backlog... so if nothing else, more CAN be adopted. Maybe not all, but more anyway.

Remember, I'm pro choice here.

[HULK1550]

Originally posted by m0chi69
my issue with that is that if you really want to raise a child, why be only willing to adopt an infant? aren't those kids currently circulating in foster care children who are in need of love as well?

Yeah but if i was raising a child i would want to be the one influencing them from as early as i could. Who knows what values/beliefs/ experiences ect a child has had before you adopt them. these things only grow and become stronger the older a child is. Sorry to be ot. i just wanted to argue with mochi

[Klash]

Originally posted by Got Gear?
Well Klash,

I understand your point. I believe the current waiting list is something stupid like 3 years.

Problem is, you nor I can predict what will happen. And currently there's a backlog... so if nothing else, more CAN be adopted. Maybe not all, but more anyway.

Remember, I'm pro choice here.

I was just pointing out, adoption is an alternative but not necessarily a better one. I think looking at foster care when discussing abortion is not irrelevant but the other side of the coin.

[m0chi69]

Originally posted by HULK1550
i just wanted to argue with mochi

[gongshow]

This is a very touchy subject, and it could be debated till your blue in the face...There are valid arguments on each side of this huge issue......this is my one thought and opinion on the issue...

Legal or not, its GOING to happen....we might as well do it the safe way.

[TheGame1976]

I don't think life is defined by self-awareness. If that were the case then people with Alzheimer's would be considered dead and so would people in comas. Either way it is murder which I define as one's decision to take a life.

[jipped genes]

my wife works for an OB GYN that does not perform abortions but will refer a woman to one in only health related cases but refuses to help a girl who uses it for birth control. i saw a trial where a guy was on trial for punching a prego woman in the belly and killing the fetus. he went to prison. yet they allow docs to do it every day? is a fetus a child or is it a pre-child if you will? from here on out i have no opinions i wish to share

[TheGame1976]

My ex-wife lost a baby at 8 weeks and I cried like a little kid for a week straight. That was a human life and although it isn't in a coffin I still wonder what my child would have been like.

[AK-47]

I believe it is Murder.

I also believe I have no right to tell a woman that she Must keep her baby, and bring a new life into this world. It is her body.

People say if you kill that child you could be killing the person that will develop a cure for cancer...Well you may also be killing a future Serial Killer, or Rapist.

Making Abortion illeagal would not end the killing....Abortions would still continue. They would be done in "back rooms "with potentially dangerous consequences for the mother.

Making someting illegal does NOT stop it from happening. Just look at the Anabolic disscusion board...The last time I checked steroids were still illegal.

I personally know two women that have had abortions. BOTH of them have told me they regret it everyday, and they wish they would have never done it.

I would have a 13yr. old nice or nephew today had a certian someone not made the decision to have an abortion.

[AK-47]