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Originally posted by prolangtum I maybe should have been a little more civil in the title. I agree, in cases like rape, etc, the are exceptions to the rule. But in other cases, what about adoption? I know my sister would love it, she and her husband have been trying to concieve over 10 years to no luck.
i think that adoption is equally as heartbreaking of a choice. think about the connection that the woman makes with the baby during the 9 months of pregnancy? and no doubt, the future psychological effects of knowing you have a child out there who you will never know or love.
regardless of what the choice is, it is never easy.
i think its wrong your playing god in this situation and taking a life. People should take more precautions before they jump into this. Yes i know sex without protection feels better but there is also consequences that one must pay if they decide to play.
If i was in this situation and felt i wasn't ready to face the facts and my girl got pregnant i would want her atleast to put it up for adoption.
Just my 2 cents
Life is like a game, you either win or lose. AND I ALWAYS WIN
Originally posted by Klash I don't believe ethics or religion should be forced on anyone.
The woman carries it. It is her decision.
I agree. I am 100% pro-choice. If the mother does not want the child, what are the chances of that child having happy and fruitfull life? I have many friends that were adopted and it is something that bothers them all the time. They go through life feeling like they are unwanted on some level. If the mother keeps the child, things can be much wose. I don't see anything positive about bringing an un-wanted child into the world.
The burden of originality is one that most people don't want to accept. They'd rather sit in front of the TV and let that tell them what they are suppose to like, what they're suppose to buy, and what they're suppose to laugh at. You have Beavis and Butthead telling you what music you're allowed to like and not like, and you've got sitcoms that have canned laughter that lets you know when to laugh if you're too stupid to know when the joke is. People are too lazy and too stupid to think for themselves because America has raised them that way.
Originally posted by teekahty I have wonderful parents , I had a very good childhood, because of my parents and the sacrifices they made , My life has been very rewarding , some people would say , that I am a Mama's boy (big time) to which I would reply "so be it" and because this has been my expierence my stance on Abortion is the following:
what would life be without a Mother who loves you. or even worse did not even want you. I am totally against partial birth abortions , ..... as for the guy having some kind of choice , I am afraid the Male track record in this kind of an instance works against us here , because for every one guy out there who wants a say in the matter, there are 5 who have walked away and left the woman to deal with everything alone.
that does suck when the guy tells the woman he will help her blah blah and then he turns into a dead beat father and doesn't help at all.
but I know a couple of single moms who say they would do it again even if they new the father would not be around. But they do lead a tough life
Life is like a game, you either win or lose. AND I ALWAYS WIN
Originally posted by teekahty I have wonderful parents , I had a very good childhood, because of my parents and the sacrifices they made , My life has been very rewarding , some people would say , that I am a Mama's boy (big time) to which I would reply "so be it" and because this has been my expierence my stance on Abortion is the following:
what would life be without a Mother who loves you. or even worse did not even want you. I am totally against partial birth abortions , ..... as for the guy having some kind of choice , I am afraid the Male track record in this kind of an instance works against us here , because for every one guy out there who wants a say in the matter, there are 5 who have walked away and left the woman to deal with everything alone.
Originally posted by morbid316 i think its wrong your playing god in this situation and taking a life.
At this stage in life (fetal), I don't consider it any more alive than a plant such as a carrot or a piece of fruit. In order for something to have 'life' on the level of an animal - human, dog, cat etc... - it must be self-aware. I don't think a fetus is self-aware. So do I think abortion is murder? No - are vegetarians serial killers?
The burden of originality is one that most people don't want to accept. They'd rather sit in front of the TV and let that tell them what they are suppose to like, what they're suppose to buy, and what they're suppose to laugh at. You have Beavis and Butthead telling you what music you're allowed to like and not like, and you've got sitcoms that have canned laughter that lets you know when to laugh if you're too stupid to know when the joke is. People are too lazy and too stupid to think for themselves because America has raised them that way.
Originally posted by blm9376 I disagree, I think it is more responsible to choose to not have the baby, then to have the baby and not be able to take care of it. Granted, the adoption system is great, but it does not always work out. There are many reasons for a woman to choose not to have a baby, rape is definitely a huge one, if not the greatest. You mean to tell me as a woman, that if you got raped (God willing you never do) you would want to walk around for 9 months w/some sick f*cks child inside of you, reminding you every single day of the violation and degradation that you went through. I do not think it is murder, I think it is a responsible choice.
Are the republicans, they say they are for small government and lower taxes.
Lets say the republicans got a ban on abortion........
From 1973–2002 43,358,592 abortions were performed in the United States.
that's a hell of alot of foster kids.....Presently the government spends $12 - $14.4 billion annually on foster care......you think they would have to raise taxes
ok, sorry I made light of the situation! Just an interesting contradiction in ideals.
As of September 30, 1999, there were 581,000 children in foster care. 46,000 children in foster care were adopted, that year. How long do you think it would take to flood the market?
You take morals and ethics out of the debate and there is no debate.
Originally posted by Hollywood Welll, maybe I'm old fashioned but I don't think abortion should ever be a choice. Even in "special" cases like rape, there are plenty ways around abortion. Unless your not physically able to carry the child, why not go through with it and put him/her up for adoption? It's murder either way you look at it IMO.
That is a tough situation. IMO abortion is not acceptable, that is taking the easy way out. A woman may have a 9 month commitment to carrying the child, but if she wasn't ready for that she should not have spread her legs. I've actually been there before, I am a single mother with absolutely no support from the father. He has never paid me a dime, or for that matter seen his child (it's better that way in my case). It is tough, but I make it. My son has more love with just a mother than he would have had with both of us through his grandparents, aunts, etc. If I would have listened to his "sperm donnar" he wouldn't be here today. He is two now and I could not imagine my life with out him. A child deserves to live! If mom or dad or both are not interested, there are tons of people who are unable to have kids and would be overjoyed to adopt a little one and raise him/her like their own.
Originally posted by Klash What I think is funny(not really)!
Are the republicans, they say they are for small government and lower taxes.
Lets say the republicans got a ban on abortion........
From 1973–2002 43,358,592 abortions were performed in the United States.
that's a hell of alot of foster kids.....Presently the government spends $12 - $14.4 billion annually on foster care......you think they would have to raise taxes
ok, sorry I made light of the situation! Just an interesting contradiction in ideals.
As of September 30, 1999, there were 581,000 children in foster care. 46,000 children in foster care were adopted, that year. How long do you think it would take to flood the market?
You take morals and ethics out of the debate and there is no debate.
That's an awful lot of kids, and that's terrible, but who are we to play God and destroy a life?
i hope i don't piss anyone off by saying this but unless you have been in this situation before than nobody has the right to even comment on anyones situation. If you want to form an opinion it should be on how YOU would handle the situation and thats it!!!!!!!! not on how other people should. and as for your buddy it does suck for him, but it is her body, i just hope its not done out of spite
Originally posted by m0chi69 1. i agree that she probably should have consulted and discussed with him when she changed her mind about keeping the baby.
2. you have to realize that it's not just a "9 month" committment if she decided to keep the baby. since they're not together, there's nothing she really has that can ensure she can get future child support for the child. it is a lifetime committment to have a child. the decision to have kept it out of wedlock, would have NO DOUBT had a much more significant impact on her life than his. think about this. raising a child is a serious and difficult responsibility. i don't think that she would have made such a choice if she thought that she could have provided for the child in all the ways that she would have wanted to WITHOUT its father.
3. the decision to have or not have an abortion is an extremely difficult and personal choice. don't under estimate the amount of internal turmoil and debate she might have already gone through before arriving at this decision.
I agree 100%!
People are so careless when it comes to sex. If he truely was so concrened about this type of an issue, he should have taken percautions from it being able to happen at all, until he was married and was ready for a family.
You'll like it in my imagination......its fun there.
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