My PCT - Suggestions?

[gusto77]

Great read for me. But I will admit there is so much info I'm a little confused about making the best practical approach towards my 4th cycle. Cycle starts jan2014 and will be:
Weeks 1- 4: Dbol 30 Mgs/ day

Weeks 1- 17: Test E 875 Mgs/ wk- 375 Mgs every 3 days

Weeks 1-16: EQ 600 Mgs/ wk- 260 Mgs every 3 days (640/ wk)

Up until this point I've only ran Nolva throughout and Nolva, clomid, and a little hcg for PCT. But seeing as this cycle is def a bit more aggressive than my other 3 I'm especially concerned about a very solid AI and and PCT plan. Here's what I'm thinking after my research... Please critique and correct and let me know if it can be simplified:

Weeks 1-18: A-dex at .5 mg eod increasing as needed
Weeks 16-18: Nolva 20 Mgs ed and HCG 500 iu 3 times a week.
Weeks 19-22: Nolva 40 Mgs x 15 days the 20 Mgs x 15 days and aromasin 12.5 Mgs ed

[mikeyg51]

Re: My PCT - Suggestions?

So, i moved this to it's own thread, hope you don't mind That way you can get much more feedback because it won't be listed under the PCT Guide one and stay hidden...

So, I personally, and this is JUST my opinion, like Aromasin at around 12.5mg/day instead of Adex...someone turned me on to that on this board and I like it better during cycle....

Also, with a longer acting test like you are using I don't start Nolva until, what, 10-14 days after my last shot? I think that is what is common...

Lastly, I like HCG during...from about week 5 to the end...I do about 500iu per week this way...it keeps me from total shutdown while on cycle...

Now, what you listed I have seen ppl do, but I just don't do it like that...I like Aromasin throughout the cycle, then Nolva and clomid as my PCT started either right after test prop or 10-14 days test e, whichever I am running....Hope this helps buddy

[gusto77]

Re: My PCT - Suggestions?

Here was my thought process after reading:
Adex- adex during cycle because it inhibits less estrogen than aromasin and many of the readings said to much estrogen inhibition can be dangerous. Also adex along with diet cardio to reduce bloat and prevent gyno.

Hcg and Nolva begin 3 weeks out from last ester leaving the body and end right before PCT. Readings said running hcg for to long can completely disrupt the body's natural ability to produce LHi. Reading said run Nolva with HCG.

Switch to aromasin- will not have rebound estrogen spike coming off aromasin like is possible with adex.

Nolva for PCT- I get bad sides from clomid... Acne, visual disturbances.

So is my plan solid and just not the way you'd do it or am I wrong about any of my thinking? Thoughts, more critiques? To me this so far this seems to be the most complicated part of the 'science' I've had to deal with. Everyone's input greatly appreciated.

[animal87]

Re: My PCT - Suggestions?

I don't understand the 20mg off nolva first, on a 4 week pct involving nolva. I would do 40/40/20/20 start with the higher dose and taper down so your body begins to work on it's own. I may have just misunderstood im kinda foggy today

[gusto77]

Re: My PCT - Suggestions?

Nope that definitely makes sense. I guess my line of thought was that I ran it at 20 Mgs ed for the cycle I just came off of and bumped it up to 40 along with hcg for my pct. Like I said I don't like clomid.

[animal87]

Re: My PCT - Suggestions?

Oh you mean your gonna take 20 mg on cycle, then go to 40mg pct and then down to 20mg right? That all sounds ok and aromisin is good, it won't hurt your joints real bad like letro, and it has a slight steroid effect itself .

[gusto77]

Re: My PCT - Suggestions?

Nope, was just going to run adex on cycle, then begin hcg 3 weeks out from last ester leaving body along with Nolva. Stuff I read said run Nolva with hcg and begin hcg 3 weeks out from last ester leaving body.

[animal87]

Re: My PCT - Suggestions?

If it was me i would run the test until the eq is out of my body. Then drop the test and start pct and run pct for 4 weeks. And yea use hcg before you get to pct to jump start your nuts.

[mikeyg51]

Re: My PCT - Suggestions?

Ok, that all makes sense brother...I only know my own experience and maybe nolva a little during cycle could work as well...I always took it when the test LEFT my body, not before...but I am now gonna read up more on it!

[sofargone561]

Re: My PCT - Suggestions?

I prefer clomid and aromsain for PCT. but thats because thats what i know. I have never used nolva or done much research on it. I wouldnt use adex for PCT i dont mind it during cycle but not during PCT because once you stop it you will get estro rebound.