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  • #61
    1.) NO test NO cycle!
    2.) Test at slightly higher levels than all other esters
    3.) a first timer with a small frame should bulk first then finish with a 'gains keepers formula'
    4.) MY cycle recomendation in full

    wks 1-3 dbol 30mg ed
    wks 1-10 deca300mg ew
    wks 1-10 t-eth 500mg ew
    wks 8-13 winny 50mg ed
    clomid

    my .02,,,,,,, BIG-G

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    • #62
      Ok, How should i do this, I just received my gear!!

      I got 10 amps of Testex Elmu Prolongatum 250 (Cypionate)
      I also got 2 Vials of QV EQ 10ml bottles
      I have 36 Clomid Tabs.

      How should I inject this?

      Wednesday - 200mg EQ
      Saturday - 200mg EQ, 250mg Cypionate

      for 10 weeks.

      is this right?

      thanks

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      • #63
        ideally

        EQ should be injected every 9th day and cyp should be every 5th day, based on half life. IMHO, I would probably do EQ/Cyp day1 and than EQ 5 days later and then EQ/Cyp 5 days later etc.

        BTW, I assume you have all food and protein powders ready?
        "There is no such thing as paranoia, only ignorance" - Hunter S. Thompson

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        • #64
          You will not get bloated with Test. Your body wont allow it. I took 50mg of Dbol and i never got bloated. i was bigger than you and the skinnier you are and higher metabolism the better it is to take Test. Take the cyp @ 500 mg per week
          1cc on monday
          1cc on thursday
          along with the same of EQ and you will gain 20-25 lbs. easy. i have gained thirty lbs since nov 2, now 10 of that was natural mass but anyways i am a lot bigger and vascular.. hahaha thats an understatement, since i have the skinny mans disease of HIGH METABOLISM.
          good luck and just fucking do test, you will not regret it.
          and acne, go back and get some more accutane if your that worried..
          hey man its 100% or Nothing you choose.

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          • #65
            I am taking Test, i said in my above post all the gear that i have recieved and ready to start in the morning.

            I have 10 amps of Cypionate 250 mg
            and 2 vials of QV EQ 10ml.

            How should i inject this?

            any suggestions, please

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            • #66
              Ok guys, I am in my third week of the cycle.

              When should i start noticing something? I'm waiting for something to happen? lol

              im doing

              QV EQ 400mg/week
              Testex ELmu Cyp 250mg/week

              ??

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              • #67
                in a couple of weeks probaly.
                I eat at least 6 times a day to build my body
                I pray at least 6 times a day to build my soul

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                • #68
                  If I gain 10 LBS of solid muscle, I'll be the happiest guy in the world.
                  Happy but not satisfied..hehehehe

                  don't be scared of the big badd TEST. This is your first cycle, which is always the one in which you have the most gains. Take advantage of the fact that you have cool ass mofo's like the ones on this board that will help you out. Most of us didnt have this board and made mistakes... You're lucky.

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                  • #69
                    I've done two cycles now with EQ (QV) and have to say I don't get much results at all with EQ. And at 250/week of Test, it might take you to week 6 to notice much of anything.

                    I can't stress enough though, EAT! And then EAT some more! It's the MOST important part of a bulking cycle.

                    Good luck!
                    Skarn
                    It's better to burn out, than to fade away...

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                    • #70
                      I did an EQ only cycle at 400 mg a week and I expereinced zero results. It was only my 3 rd cycle ever. I only did minor cycles in the past also. First cycle was 200 mg of Deca for 10 weeks and 5 amps of Parabolan (1 amp a week for last 5 weeks) 10 week cycle total and I gained 17 pounds of muscle and dropped my BF. But I didn't get anything from EQ and I was only looking to get vascular which didn't happen. Just an FYi. So the test will really help. Also some say to run EQ for 12-15 weeks as it really tends to kick in around week 10 so you may want to run it longer than 10 weeks. But see how you progress. I only did it for 10 weeks and was not happy at all.

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                      • #71
                        so basically i should start seeing/feeling something in weeks 4 or 5?

                        I am currently in my 3rd week

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                        • #72
                          UPDATE.

                          Im currently starting my 9th week on Monday Aug 11.
                          I really haven't seen much size gain YET? Should I have by now?
                          I know the shit was real, i know i've been eating and resting and working out?
                          should i just wait a bit more? has anybody done the cycle I am doing and experienced nothing until the end?

                          Please any input is appreciated.

                          Btw Im doing........
                          QV EQ 400mg/week
                          Testex ELmu Cyp 250mg/week

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by 2ndgear
                            UPDATE.

                            Im currently starting my 9th week on Monday Aug 11.
                            I really haven't seen much size gain YET? Should I have by now?
                            I know the shit was real, i know i've been eating and resting and working out?
                            should i just wait a bit more? has anybody done the cycle I am doing and experienced nothing until the end?

                            Please any input is appreciated.

                            Btw Im doing........
                            QV EQ 400mg/week
                            Testex ELmu Cyp 250mg/week
                            What exactly do you mean by 'haven't seen MUCH size gain yet'? Some guys gain ten lbs while concurrently lowering their bodyfat percentage and still aren't satisfied. Has your body composition changed (i.e. are you more vascular,more cut) Has your strength gone up at all? Have you received any compliments at the gym?
                            If not, something is definitely wrong here. You'd have to examine your training and nutrition pretty closely. Either that, or your gear is shit. First cycle you should've been able to gain considerably off just the 250mg of test alone.

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                            • #74
                              can anybody else please share some of your knowledge?

                              i would really like to get some more feedback.

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                              • #75
                                First you have absolutely no - knowledge of gear and I would recommend you read up on it be4 you start injecting it into your body. But you probably wont listen to that b/c i know i wouldnt if i were you so here is my advice. Listen to everybody Test( should be the foundation of any cycle) eq is nice when added with test. If your test levels are not above those of eq kiss your hard on's goodbye. if you inject test every two weeks you will get a ton of acne b/c your hormones will be going nuts. To limit acne, get solid gains, and limit all side effects i recommend a minimum of 500 mgs a week( though i really suggest 750) and you can do the eq at 400 mg a week. Run both the whole cycle of at least 10 weeks. Very important keep test above eq the whole cycle. Have nolva on hand just in case any signs of gyno occur and from the looks of your body you might need it. And clomid and nolva for post cycle. Keep Test above the eq and if your going to run anything solo make it the test

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