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UPDATE
6th Week QV DECA 600 MG/Week, 2 weeks left.
165 Lbs Now.
Critiques?
6th Week QV DECA 600 MG/Week, 2 weeks left.
165 Lbs Now.
Critiques?
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heres antoherComment
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Trust me on this, you need to add the test, and don't be afraid. You can use test cyp. or enan at least 500-600mg/wk and 500-600mg/wk of the EQ and run them for at least 12wks to see results. This was my first cycle cyp. 600mg/wk for 13wks, EQ Bold 500mg/wk 12 wks. I had very good weight gain of 20lbs and retained most of it. You have to eat alot of protein at least double your body weight. 3 good meals and 3 snack meals ed. alot of water. train right along with some cardio and you be on your way. You just doing too little test and not enough EQ for too short of a duration. Opps, i see you swithed on me with the deca lol!Comment
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u should do the test enanthate at 250mg/wk and no more with the eq at 400mg/wk. if the test gets harsh then drop it. its ur first cycle and u only weigh 150 lbs. i usually don't condone stacks for a beginner or first cycler. i've seen people make pretty good gains just from 200mg of eq per week, but mainly bcuz it was their first cycle. the eq is gonna make u eat like a horse so i know u'll put on some weight.Comment
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just be careful eq is a form of deca and in some people it could shut you down pretty bad.Comment
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definitely add some test you already have deca in there so your gonna need hcg anyway.Comment
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Man i don't mean this as a flame, but you need to do more research and learn, deca and eq are not the same at all. and saying eq is another form of deca is a flat out mistake! Deca is what wil shut you down, especially if you don't use the test. On the other hand EQ is low andro and all you need is the test and ldex.Originally posted by grdfreak
just be careful eq is a form of deca and in some people it could shut you down pretty bad.Comment
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mick how long you been around this game.By saying a form of deca i meant structurally similar to,I did not say that they are the same or that they would shut you down the same.But i did say they were SIMILAR. Answer me a question when people stack test w/ deca why do they do that? Hmmmm is it cause deca is more of an anabolic than test? And that it is said to have a high androgenic and a high anabolic in a cycle for a really good cycle. You were correct about one thing and that is the fact that eq has a low andro ratio. Good job. But to not know that eq is structurally similar to deca means that (and im not flaming) someone needs to do their research and it aint me.Comment
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i understand what you mean about throwing test in there but your not throwing the test in there because deca shuts you down(as in wipes out your sperm count). Your throwing the test in there so you could get hard ons and no deca dik and for the added benefit of having a high andro w/ a high anabolic. Either way when you come off a cycle consisting of deca your gonna need hcg. Test will help while on cycle but DECA IS EVIL!Comment
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test wipes you out also but not as bad as deca.Comment
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This is what you said, and it is totally false. Ok, and I can asure you I've been around alot longer than you. How old are you, 20's I imagine. Well i'm in my 40's bro. Most people know the last few things in the posts you put up and the way you explain it doesn't sound real intelligent.Originally posted by grdfreak
just be careful eq is a form of deca and in some people it could shut you down pretty bad.Comment
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250 of test at least for that cycle for some nice sizehop on the Sust Bus and growComment
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ok your right mick your set in your ways eq is not similarly stuctured to deca. And when this kid gets off deca and doesnt take hcg (cause you said that as long as he runs test hell be fine)
and take the risk of not being able to have a normal functioning hormonal system i hope youll be happy. Im trying to keep this kid as safe as possible and to tell him hell be fine if he adds test is totally irreseponsible especially by a 40 something year old. Also eq is similarly structured to deca no matter what you say, and in some people it has been known to cause crashes, who are you to say what is gonna happen to this kid. What is he is one of the people that eq has a bad effect on. In his case better be safe then sorry.get hcg even if you run test with eq, ohh yea and remind me never to hire mick as my guru for my upcoming contest i might never be able to have kids again.Comment
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QUOTE (Little Rage @ Mar 1 2004, 04:39 PM)
fearmy6pak:
I actually like deca. Both eq and deca have their pros and cons. *edit* eq shuts me down post cycle harder and longer than any other steroid but increases my sex drive while on it. I'm actually looking forward to running both of them together.
My current cycle actually started as a drol/deca/fina/t-3 combo , but has changed since i started.
drol/deca/fina STACKED! wow that's every aas that has strong progesterone sides...most would be wearing bras after a cycle like that!
*this was posted on a board where tons of pros are. This person is a pro bodybuilder. But eq will not shut you down and is not similarly structured to deca.Comment
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Grdfreak, I just think your one of those bros that likes to make an arguement out of nothing! Where did i say not to use HCG with Deca? I'm actually going to be doing deca and using HCG 500IU twice a wk with it along with test Karachi sust. and russian dbol. Do I have to spell everthing out for you!! I wish some other vet would come out and back me on the Deca and EQ are not the same!! If he had run the EQ with the test or whatever, that is what the ldex and nolva are for. Unless this guy is predisposed to gyno which he doesn't say. You must also use proper pct afterwards. All in all it just sounds like you don't listen and haven't read and learned enough. If this guy had a problem, i would have thought this would be a thing he would bring up. Anyway, I'm done with this, LaterComment
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