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  • #31
    .25mg eod is plenty of arimidex on 400mg of Test. Femera would be a better option.
    I eat at least 6 times a day to build my body
    I pray at least 6 times a day to build my soul

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    • #32
      if i was you i would do straight test. looks to me you should bulk up abit and then try to get the vascularity that comes with eq.
      any way good luck
      makavellie00023@cyber-rights.net

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      • #33
        Originally posted by makavellie23
        if i was you i would do straight test. looks to me you should bulk up abit and then try to get the vascularity that comes with eq.
        any way good luck
        I agree...you're pretty skinny bro...why not bulk up for a couple months, then considering your metabolism, you should be able to lose the excess fat pretty quickly. The you'll have the same shape as you do now, just 10 pounds heavier.

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        • #34
          I don't think your ready to juice yet. Sorry bro but you could add 10-15 lbs to your frame without juice. You haven't even come close to your genetic potential. I think you should re-evaluate your dieting and if you set on juicing make sure you get plenty of calories since you are an ectomorph like myself. If you don't all the juice in the world isn't gonna make you grow. If your dead set on doing a cycle I would go with test rather than EQ or stack them for even better results.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by on_a_mission
            I don't think your ready to juice yet. Sorry bro but you could add 10-15 lbs to your frame without juice. You haven't even come close to your genetic potential. I think you should re-evaluate your dieting and if you set on juicing make sure you get plenty of calories since you are an ectomorph like myself. If you don't all the juice in the world isn't gonna make you grow. If your dead set on doing a cycle I would go with test rather than EQ or stack them for even better results.
            I'm thinking the same thing.

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            • #36
              I'm not entirely sure I agree

              Rather than yoyo up and down, I think just EQ is a fine start for the following reasons:
              1. Although it is considered weak visavis test or dbol; you know your diet/training is spot on if you gain weight, He can always do a test/EQ cycle later.
              2. the EQ gains will be solid, which is better? 7-10lbs of solid muscle or 25 lbs of muscle+water and fat
              3. If he gains fat with the test, and he probably will, he could lose hard earned muscle along with the fat when he cuts.

              This is just MHO, so feel free to chime in.
              "There is no such thing as paranoia, only ignorance" - Hunter S. Thompson

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              • #37
                Re: I'm not entirely sure I agree

                Rather than yoyo up and down, I think just EQ is a fine start for the following reasons:
                1. Although it is considered weak visavis test or dbol; you know your diet/training is spot on if you gain weight, He can always do a test/EQ cycle later.


                Agree

                2. the EQ gains will be solid, which is better? 7-10lbs of solid muscle or 25 lbs of muscle+water and fat
                Why would you gain fat with Test? Test has been shown to increase lipolysis.

                3. If he gains fat with the test, and he probably will, he could lose hard earned muscle along with the fat when he cuts.

                Again, why are you sure sure he will gain fat?
                I eat at least 6 times a day to build my body
                I pray at least 6 times a day to build my soul

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by clubkid
                  yeah bro i'm on week three, my first cycle also, i'm running this

                  dbol 30 mg week 1-3
                  test 200 week 1-2 (wanted to try it out so i didnt breakout)
                  test 400 week 2-10
                  eq 400 week 1-10


                  throw the test in there i also asked for advice on this board like you and am glad i asked because i have looked into it more and the eq really wouldnt have done much to me, if your scared of breakouts its all g bro, go get pantothenic acid, take 12 of those a day and it should help you not breakout, this week (on the end of week three) it seems everything is kicking in, i have gained about 7 pounds so far, anyway on week three i broke out in 6 spots not bad at all, i just bought this stuff i'll c how it works
                  A gram of gear a week for a first cycle. 3 kinds of drugs; I dont know what you were thinking.
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                  • #39
                    400 of eq will be a fine starter cycle, but I think youll be a lot happier if you use 400 of test inestead. and do test/EQ next cylce.

                    I am in agreement to put on another 15 pounds before you cycle tho bro.
                    "Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas."
                    - Joseph Stalin



                    Power perceived is power achieved.

                    Unless you are the lead dog, the view never changes.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by DeezGunz
                      400 mg's of eq for ten weeks is pointless and a waste of juice.
                      I wouldn't necessarily say that...

                      If after your first cycle of 400mg/wk eq you come to the conclusion that it 'was pointless and a waste of juice' then you're doing something wrong.

                      Deca and EQ are comparable in strength...my first cycle was deca @ 450 mgs/wk. I was satisfied with my results (13 lb gain).

                      I recommend test only @ around 400mgs/wk...but if he's set on the test/eq, I'd go with 400mg/eq
                      200mg/test like you stated. No need to go any higher with dosages IMO.

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                      • #41
                        ....yeah if your set on eq and test do 200 test and 400 eq.
                        "Ideas are more powerful than guns. We would not let our enemies have guns, why should we let them have ideas."
                        - Joseph Stalin



                        Power perceived is power achieved.

                        Unless you are the lead dog, the view never changes.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Governor
                          A gram of gear a week for a first cycle. 3 kinds of drugs; I dont know what you were thinking.
                          and 18 years old as well...the ironic part is that a lot of people on here suggested he do that cycle

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                          • #43
                            and yet we wonder why steroids are scheduled...

                            as i digress...

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                            • #44
                              i am 20 years old, turning 21 very soon, not 18

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                              • #45
                                ok

                                EQ 400mg/week 10 weeks
                                Test Enan 200/week for ? I want this test at a minimum just to keep my schlong up. =)

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