help...i screwed up

[mltnewbie]

help...not sure where to post i am definitely a newbie...i was put on the spot to start a cycle with my buddy's left over stock...long story...he gave me the below list and some instructions for the first 6 weeks and now im stuck ...dumb!!!

wk 1 - 6 250 sus once a week
20 mg anavar daily
nothing else

here is what i have left and what im proposing

wk 6-12 250 sus twice a week
50 mg winstrol daily
nolva not sure amounts
liver 52 not sure amounts
hcg not sure amounts

pct clomid not sure amounts

i know i know i know not a smart move to start without knowing but there were a bunch of lies that i took as truth and now im just trying to be as safe and maximize the cycle where i can...

i have definitely learned my lesson hopefully not the hard way....please hlep

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[BABY1]

Re: help...i screwed up

Well welcome to FG. So are you saying this is your first cycle ever? How about some stats and goals as that will help others who may advise

[Rake]

Re: help...i screwed up

Read, Read, and Read some more before you do anything. I take it you are young so you have plenty of time.

[gusto77]

Re: help...i screwed up

help...not sure where to post i am definitely a newbie...i was put on the spot to start a cycle with my buddy's left over stock...long story...he gave me the below list and some instructions for the first 6 weeks and now im stuck ...dumb!!!

wk 1 - 6 250 sus once a week
20 mg anavar daily
nothing else

here is what i have left and what im proposing

wk 6-12 250 sus twice a week
50 mg winstrol daily
nolva not sure amounts
liver 52 not sure amounts
hcg not sure amounts

pct clomid not sure amounts

i know i know i know not a smart move to start without knowing but there were a bunch of lies that i took as truth and now im just trying to be as safe and maximize the cycle where i can...

i have definitely learned my lesson hopefully not the hard way....please hlep

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You can continue with the sustanon 250 twice a week. Not the greatest for stable blood levels but not going to hurt anything. If this is your first cycle I personally wouldn't take the Winstrol. Nolvadex at 10 to 20 mg every day. You can take a LIV 52 but I know a lot of people on here will say that it's worthless. Not going to hurt anything as far as I know though. Clomid therapy for Sustanon would start three weeks after last injection. The protocol I always followed was 300 mg day one, 100 mg for 10 days, and 50 mg for 10 days. I don't have much experience with hCG but I don't think you need that either.

[FUZO]

Re: help...i screwed up

If You want to be serious just use test 500mg a week Mon and fri shots depending if its 250mg per ml or 300mg per ml but first cycle test only.Sure be safe add the nolva if ya want and when your done 2 weeks after your last shot hit the clomd schedule.Eat right eat good food,Protein intake,vitamins,mabey a pre work out mabey some bcaa's but IMO I wouldn't do sust straight test-e or test cyp.Drop the winny. Baby steps listen to experts us old timers people been around will give you good advice. But if you have any questions about anything please post them and ask ask ask.There is never a dumb question.

[animal87]

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Honestly, not being rude. Just being honest. It would be a good idea to just pct with nolva and/or clomid and run a real cycle after you have researched and know what to do. When you have the right gear to run a full cycle too.

[cybrsage]

Re: help...i screwed up

The most important part of cycling is getting your diet in order before you inject anything at all.

[6p6]

Re: help...i screwed up

Honestly, not being rude. Just being honest. It would be a good idea to just pct with nolva and/or clomid and run a real cycle after you have researched and know what to do. When you have the right gear to run a full cycle too.

I second this.


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[MOUNTAIN-MAN]

Re: help...i screwed up

welcome and there is some great advice in this thread decades of experiance

[Skeletor]

Re: help...i screwed up

Lots of great advice here. Def spot on with the test advice from fuzo. 500 per week for your first cycle is the best thing you could run.
Def do some more research for yourself before u do anything else..

[Little BamBam]

Re: help...i screwed up

help...not sure where to post i am definitely a newbie...i was put on the spot to start a cycle with my buddy's left over stock...long story...he gave me the below list and some instructions for the first 6 weeks and now im stuck ...dumb!!!

wk 1 - 6 250 sus once a week
20 mg anavar daily
nothing else

here is what i have left and what im proposing

wk 6-12 250 sus twice a week
50 mg winstrol daily
nolva not sure amounts
liver 52 not sure amounts
hcg not sure amounts

pct clomid not sure amounts

i know i know i know not a smart move to start without knowing but there were a bunch of lies that i took as truth and now im just trying to be as safe and maximize the cycle where i can...

i have definitely learned my lesson hopefully not the hard way....please hlep

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you have much to learn so do alot of research and ask questions after you have researched it yourself.
this is how i started so i have a soft spot for noobs. but dont just ask questions and never get on the board to respond and thank guys for wasting their time if they did try to help you out and then move on to another board to waste others time.

when running sust you should pin more frequently so i would suggest spliting your 500mg of sust into 3 injections a week minimum due to the short esters in the substance and anavar at 20mg is a waste probably didnt do much. if youre going to run winny any way no matter what guys have stated on here start at 25mg and see how you feel for a few days then if all is well step it up to 50 mg. for nolva 10mg a day should be enough to keep sides down if you can dose it at 10mg but adex would be better. start pct 2 weeks after your last pin of sust. if you do not feel testicular atrophy (balls shrink) then there would be no need for chg and the pct will take care of anything

week 6-12 500mg sust split into 3 pins
week 8-12 winny start at 25mg and move up to 50mg
week 6-12 nolva daily 10mg
week 10-16 hcg 1200-1500mcg a week split into 3 pins
pct
week 14-16 clomid 40mg
week 14-16 nolva 20mg
week 16-18 clomid 20mg
week 16-18 nolva 10mg

im no doctor im just giving you research i have taken in from gents on FG and other boards if it wasnt for me starting at FG then i would be in the same spot as you. but do your own research and decide for yourself it is your body always remember that

[Manny1983]

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Damn crazy. I remember I did no joke about 1 year of research before I ordered my 1st cycle. Then after I got it I did another few weeks of research to make sure I covered all my bases before I pinned. Fuzo's advise is spot on. Personally I don't run hcg, I prefer my nuts out of the way lol.