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  • #46
    laying all philosophy aside, I just don't make any gains after about 10 weeks. I gota cycle off for a couple months, and plan another
    There is no substitute for experience......

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    • #47
      I like constant slow gains, that's why I've found long cycles work better for me. And I don't care what people say, changing drugs every so often DOES help. Different drugs work through different pathways, and I think that keeps your body guessing. Oh well, when I make it to 220lbs at 5'4" by christmas, I'll prove myself right If not... then I'll come off and try again later

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      • #48
        Im pretty sure CJ is just sayin hes been there done that dident like the outcome depression low test an does not think of it as a good idea anymore, about the shorter ester high doses ull hav to ask him but i think the only thing he ran large amounts of was var....for 5-6wks (not sure though correct me if wrong)

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Billy_Bathgate
          Thats about the worste way you could cycle.
          You will NOT reach homeostasis.
          Roller coasting your HTPA is much harder on it than being on for long periods of time.
          Half the damage for steroids is the coming on period and coming off period.
          STay on for a long time, your body will adapt to your shut down and your levels and you will keep gaining just fine. Longer cycles are for more experienced though as you have to know how to train and diet right. 75% starting out in cycling still dont...
          well man , i suggested my ideas , and i'm no newbie , and if u want to have ur own way , please go ahead and do so . to each his own .
          btw and for the nth time , ure htpa wont be having a roller coaster ride , dont speak unless u really tried it .
          but good luck with ur methods , and lol , wish me good luck with mine .
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          • #50
            I've just never had that great of experience wtih long cycles, and my buddy from FB Badass71442 he did a 20 weeker and he also realized it's something he'll never do again just because of post cycle ...

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