Damn it

[tazzy21]

Ok bros so I've always kinda been prone to gyno ( I get a fatty hard small mass at the bottom of my chest). Done cycles before and some times have probs and sometimes not.. mid cycle of anadrol 30 mg day and teat 250mg a week.. ya low doses but the test is a cruise and the drol for strength not necessarily size... i was taking formeron everyday and started letro at .25 end. . My gyno has set in, mass is there, sensitivity... have stopped the anadrol and upped the letro to 1 mg ed. As going up higher kills the shit outta my sex drive! Should I add in nolvadex Orr? ?
Want to start eq in a few weeks, I've read it's similar to var, minimal sides ( I will be at 300mg/week)..? Based on my gyno history, will I need to take nolvadex throughout..??
Thanks

[MOUNTAIN-MAN]

Re: Damn it

If I was prone to gyno I would use adex 1 mg eod. And I would add the nolva now to stop the gyno from progressing. The drol will be out of your system fast that is a good thing.

[Torres]

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BUMP ^^^ at MM Post !!!
As far a using Nolvadex w/ Letro, I would've said not until the mass is gone, but MM knows more so do it brother , it def won't hurt !!!
I know about the dreaded , stinkin , gyno . I always keep Arimidex , nolvadex , aromasin , Letro , caber just in case that shit comes around !!! Always smart to have AI's on hand , ' At All Times ' when cycling !!!
Keep us posted bro !!!

[MOUNTAIN-MAN]

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No drop the letro use nolva and adex combo

[BABY1]

Re: Damn it

Ok bros so I've always kinda been prone to gyno ( I get a fatty hard small mass at the bottom of my chest). Done cycles before and some times have probs and sometimes not.. mid cycle of anadrol 30 mg day and teat 250mg a week.. ya low doses but the test is a cruise and the drol for strength not necessarily size... i was taking formeron everyday and started letro at .25 end. . My gyno has set in, mass is there, sensitivity... have stopped the anadrol and upped the letro to 1 mg ed. As going up higher kills the shit outta my sex drive! Should I add in nolvadex Orr? ?
Want to start eq in a few weeks, I've read it's similar to var, minimal sides ( I will be at 300mg/week)..? Based on my gyno history, will I need to take nolvadex throughout..??
Thanks

bumpin this for you tazzy so I don't forget to tell Fuzo to get in here and give his feedback. He has been running eq for years

[guns01]

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do not drop the letro man. if you need to use vaig or cial for the sex drive then do it. the letro is the only one that will eat up what you have already grown. you need to up the dose until it is completely gone though or surgery will be in you future.

[6p6]

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Letro is the only real way to combat that once it's there. I use nolvadex and adex to prevent but once it's there you have to use letro boss.


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[BlueL@bel]

Re: Damn it

If I was prone to gyno I would use adex 1 mg eod. And I would add the nolva now to stop the gyno from progressing. The drol will be out of your system fast that is a good thing.

I might even use 1mg ed for the first week just to front load (idk i am big on frontloading things) these guys know best, but I feel that it couldnt hurt and could be beificial.... gl man it sucks being gyno prone...

[tazzy21]

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Thanks guys. It's what I've used in the past for when it flares and at a low dose just wondered if adding in nolvadex would be too much suppression. . What about the eq? Always thought about but never done eq. Always went with deca or var... dosage, ai's. ..

[MOUNTAIN-MAN]

Re: Damn it

Thanks guys. It's what I've used in the past for when it flares and at a low dose just wondered if adding in nolvadex would be too much suppression. . What about the eq? Always thought about but never done eq. Always went with deca or var... dosage, ai's. ..

Start with 400 mg a week see how that works with eq should be all u need it does convert to estrogen but only slightly so nolva 20 mg ed or letro eod since ur prone to gyno

[guns01]

Re: Damn it

Thanks guys. It's what I've used in the past for when it flares and at a low dose just wondered if adding in nolvadex would be too much suppression. . What about the eq? Always thought about but never done eq. Always went with deca or var... dosage, ai's. ..

are you currently running deca? and did you consider it may be prolactin induced gyno f so? also nolv isnt an eliminator of estro it blocks estrogen from attaching. dex and the others kill estro off completely and letro eats the gyno up in some cases. aroma dex and letro are the best for estrogen related sides and caber and prami for prolactin coming from 19 nors

[tazzy21]

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are you currently running deca? and did you consider it may be prolactin induced gyno f so? also nolv isnt an eliminator of estro it blocks estrogen from attaching. dex and the others kill estro off completely and letro eats the gyno up in some cases. aroma dex and letro are the best for estrogen related sides and caber and prami for prolactin coming from 19 nors

Not currently using deca no. Haven't used that for many years. Have used some prohormones over the years. Epi.. I have been using formeron throughout this cycle, only been on the anadrol for about 3 weeks at about 20 mg ed. Started using letro about a week ago when sensitivity started. Prolactin induced? All I know is I have a mass about the size of two quarters on my left nip and one the size of a nickel on my right side. Both are a bit sore but no real puffiness in the nipple. . The mass is kinda off to the side not necessarily right on the nipple.. so the eq I want minimal sides.. was thinkin var again as I've done it in the past but just so damn expensive.. so I thought eq at about 250 - 300 mg a week. I don't see alot of negatives regarding suppression or anything.. for the record, I'm 42 about 220 pounds... thanks again bros.

[Jozifp103]

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Here's my take on this....you're on a low dose test which won't aromatize a whole lot. You're also on drol which doesn't aromatize at all. Your problem is not aromatization so an AI (letro, adex, aromasin) won't help you in this case. Anadrol induced gyno is not cause by aromatization. Anadrol activates the e2 receptor in it's own way which is still mostly unknown. The only way to prevent gyno in this care is to block the e2 receptors in the breast tissue by using serms.

[hicktown]

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Youll love EQ, im on 600mg and youll love the leanness and strength youll get from it. It does take awhile for you to see its affects, for me it was around 6 weeks in. No sides at all and this is the 2nd time ive run it.

[tazzy21]

Re: Damn it

Here's my take on this....you're on a low dose test which won't aromatize a whole lot. You're also on drol which doesn't aromatize at all. Your problem is not aromatization so an AI (letro, adex, aromasin) won't help you in this case. Anadrol induced gyno is not cause by aromatization. Anadrol activates the e2 receptor in it's own way which is still mostly unknown. The only way to prevent gyno in this care is to block the e2 receptors in the breast tissue by using serms.

Anyone else chime in on this??? I've always believed that anadrol highly converted to estrogen which in turn would bring an onset of gyno easily..?? I have ordered some nolvadex but if this in fact true then I will wait till my nolvadex is here and head back on the anadrol. Love the strength and size from it even at a low does of 25mg ed..