Long low dosed cycles

[MxxC82]

Re: Long low dosed cycles

If you are asking me I never started a cycle. Just staying on TRT for right now. I have other health issues and at this time I am not ready to start back.

Hope everything gets better for you. i am researching for my next one and happen to see the thread and read some good opinions here.

[qhams]

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this is a good thread, I have been off for over 2 years and just now getting back around to start another, I was running testE 500mg/wk split on my very first cycle and that was it, was always told the first is a building block and I did not see much results (or what i expected, but it was the hype). Long time since i have been on the board here also, (long story) but glad to be back! So, how are your results coming along?

If you are asking me I never started a cycle. Just staying on TRT for right now. I have other health issues and at this time I am not ready to start back.

[MOUNTAIN-MAN]

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Does adex kill good and bad cholesterol or just good?

Also on the aromasin I thought that was the strongest anti-e and would eliminate all estrogen?

kills them both my good and bad are less than 3 pts each which is not good thanks to dex

[MxxC82]

Re: Long low dosed cycles

this is a good thread, I have been off for over 2 years and just now getting back around to start another, I was running testE 500mg/wk split on my very first cycle and that was it, was always told the first is a building block and I did not see much results (or what i expected, but it was the hype). Long time since i have been on the board here also, (long story) but glad to be back! So, how are your results coming along?

[Jbranken]

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I like the idea of low dose cycling. If everyone started out cycling at low doses and slowly worked up over time, they could do this for a very long time without causing too much permanent damage. It seems the mindset of most guys is to push as much juice in their body as they can when they should be letting their diet and training do the talking. The gear should just be the icing on the cake. I'm cycling 300mg test and 200mg tren right now, that's it! Only 500mg total each week and some guys are baffled that I can make gains on this lol.

[qhams]

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Thanks for all the great info everyone.

[hicktown]

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i just finished 15 weeks of test cyp at 400mg and had incredible results..

[qhams]

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diet doesnt look bad at all man. i dont see any of the bad stuff that usually cranks peoples lipids through the roof. a funny discusion i has with my doc not to long ago was that it is rare for lipid issues to be caused by diet (this is not the case most of the time) the issue is usually genetic unless you are a fat slob that lays around eating fried chicken and drinking lard.

may look at taking some omega 3s in your setup as well as adding a good fiber supplement on top of what you are already doing. i use sugar free metamucell myself. cool thing i learned about fiber is that in order for it to be fully affective it needs to be used without sugar present so it can stick to all the bad stuff and pull it out.

Yeah I know genetics does play a huge role...I just really question if borderline high cholesterol needs to be addressed with meds. Also everything I read these days on heart health points more to inflammation than anything else.

In terms of omega-3 I try and take fish oil capsule daily (1-3 capsules)...ran out of capsules so I am taking TBSP of liquid fish oil several days a week. I have some psyillum husk capsules but do not take them unless fiber is low in a meal. I tried taking them on a regular basis and butthole got a bit raw from it.

That is interesting about the sugar present...never heard of that before.

[qhams]

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I think I saw you say you were off right now? After I go off pct mine goes back to normal, so if your on it could correct itself.

Before I started PCT it was high. I tried for a year or two getting my test levels up naturally and they barely budged. During this time and after TRT they stay right around 200.

[guns01]

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diet doesnt look bad at all man. i dont see any of the bad stuff that usually cranks peoples lipids through the roof. a funny discusion i has with my doc not to long ago was that it is rare for lipid issues to be caused by diet (this is not the case most of the time) the issue is usually genetic unless you are a fat slob that lays around eating fried chicken and drinking lard.

may look at taking some omega 3s in your setup as well as adding a good fiber supplement on top of what you are already doing. i use sugar free metamucell myself. cool thing i learned about fiber is that in order for it to be fully affective it needs to be used without sugar present so it can stick to all the bad stuff and pull it out.

[animal87]

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I think I saw you say you were off right now? After I go off pct mine goes back to normal, so if your on it could correct itself.

[qhams]

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My doc keeps pushing me to get on chol. lowering medicine but I dont agree with that. My levels are not through the roof. I have tried lately to really get fiber intake up and more energy expenditure up to see if my levels improve. I go early Jan. for blood work. After that I may start this cycle.

[animal87]

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^^ Yea, thats the only real side I get is my hdl was low last time I got blood work done. I didn't realize armosin helped with that tho.

[qhams]

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like bm said it destroys your good cholesterol. aromsin isnt quite as harsh at eliminating all estrogen as dex and ferma are. a good approach that a lot of guys i know is: run 25mg for 2-3wks to allow it to build up and then cruise at 12.5mg for as long as needed. it also helps improve you cholesterol numbers which is an added bene

Really? Interesting. My numbers are always borderline high. Total usually around 210 and good (HDL) coming in around 45-50 and bad is usually a little high. Not sure why. Been like that for 4 years. I thought my diet was okay. May be some hormone off causing it to run high.

Diet by the way is as followed:
Breakfast
3 Eggs
3 Egg Whites
Starch is either - protein pancakes, oatmeal, ezekial bread, or a high fiber cereal

Lunch
Protein - chicken, beef, fish, etc.
Starch - rice or potato
Vegetables - Kimchi or steamed brocolli

Post Workout
50 grams of whey protein
Gatorade mixed in with protein and sometimes fruit or oatmeal on side

Dinner
Large serving of protein (chicken, pork, beef, fish, etc.)
Vegetable (green beans, broc, etc.)
Starch - pasta, rice, potatoes, sweet potatoes, etc.
Usually have dessert

Before Bed
If I am hungry I will eat a bowl of high fiber cereal or sandwich.

[guns01]

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Does adex kill good and bad cholesterol or just good?

Also on the aromasin I thought that was the strongest anti-e and would eliminate all estrogen?

like bm said it destroys your good cholesterol. aromsin isnt quite as harsh at eliminating all estrogen as dex and ferma are. a good approach that a lot of guys i know is: run 25mg for 2-3wks to allow it to build up and then cruise at 12.5mg for as long as needed. it also helps improve you cholesterol numbers which is an added bene