The Sane cycle : safe and effective use of steroids

[Big Cat]

Yes, especially since you will be tapering clomid as well. Besides, it seems rather redundant since a mere 20 mg of Nolva is nearly as potent as 150 mg of Clomid, and exerts anti-estrogenic effects more widely than clomid does.

[Juice Authority]

Originally posted by Big Cat
Yes, especially since you will be tapering clomid as well. Besides, it seems rather redundant since a mere 20 mg of Nolva is nearly as potent as 150 mg of Clomid, and exerts anti-estrogenic effects more widely than clomid does.

By that notion wouldn't 40mg's of Nolva and say 100mg's of clomid ED be more effective?

[prolangtum]

What about estrogenic rebound one gets from nolva cessation? Wouldnt there possibly be estrogen still floatign around, then you quit nolva cold turkey, and blam, possible gyno? If i get what your saying or trying to ask JA.

[Big Cat]

Originally posted by Juice Authority
By that notion wouldn't 40mg's of Nolva and say 100mg's of clomid ED be more effective?

Currently 20 mg of Nolva and then 100-50 mg of Clomid appears to be enough. So increasing the dose of either woyld have more results. Although be careful of using in excess of 150 mg of Clomid for less than 20 mg of Nolva, as this will increase Clomid mediated HPTA supression at the pituitary level.

[Big Cat]

Originally posted by prolangtum
What about estrogenic rebound one gets from nolva cessation? Wouldnt there possibly be estrogen still floatign around, then you quit nolva cold turkey, and blam, possible gyno? If i get what your saying or trying to ask JA.

By the time you stop Nolva, all exogenous steroids should be pretty much cleared and anything that occurs is endogenous. So its unlikely you would experience a rebound large enough to cause supression or gyno, but of course there is a slight chance of a little rebound, causing increased water retention.

[Juice Authority]

Originally posted by Big Cat
By the time you stop Nolva, all exogenous steroids should be pretty much cleared and anything that occurs is endogenous. So its unlikely you would experience a rebound large enough to cause supression or gyno, but of course there is a slight chance of a little rebound, causing increased water retention.

Couldn't the increased water retention caused by an rebound be more or less kept in check by using 1mg of Arimidex eod post-cycle with the clomid and Nolva?

[Big Cat]

Originally posted by Juice Authority
Couldn't the increased water retention caused by an rebound be more or less kept in check by using 1mg of Arimidex eod post-cycle with the clomid and Nolva?

At the time you are using clomid and nolva that seems rather redundant. Could help to start three days before end of post-cycle and maintain for a week or so. But this is all very much guess-work.