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  • What is the best beginner cycle?

    Hey all, I am new to steroids and wanted to do a lot of research before making any decisions. Lots and lots of research. What is the best cycle for a beginner? By beginner I mean no steroid use at all.

    I have used prohormones in the past such as M1T and 4AD and loved it. I also use creatine, and my protein intake is 4 meals a day of REAL food. I'm not a fan of bars and powders. Fish, chicken, and an occasional lean steak are always in the mix. Eggs and rice usually for breakfast too.

    My primary goal is to gain a lot of strength , and my secondary goal is to have the leanest gains as possible that can be kept. Obviously I would like to get some muscle size too I have a few friends recommend dbol + win, or deca + win. Oh, and one other stipulation I have is that I cant bloat too much because I wear dress shirts and dont really want to buy bigger ones because my neck wont button. Sounds like a dumb problem, but its a problem nonetheless. I ran into that with some b.s. product last summer and that wasn't fun; I forget what it was called though.

    Other stats that might help are I'm 6' tall and weigh 225 lbs. I dont know my bf %. I do cardio of some sort every morning like jogging or walking/ sprinting. I'd have no preference how I administered the product.

    Anyway back to my original question... what would be the best stack or single steroid to use for a beginner? And just as importantly, what pct
    do you recommend? During the whole cycle and for a while after I would take milk thistle and cranberry pills to keep me healthy.

    All help would be appreciated and as always, I am asking for information for research and informational purposes only. Thank you!
    Grandfinale03

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    Re: What is the best beginner cycle?

    TEST 500MG A WEEK FOR 12 WEEKS NOLVA 20MG A DAY DURING YOUR CYCLE

    PCT- CLOMID


    3 WEEKS AFTER LAST INJECTION CLOMID

    1ST DAY 300MG OF CLOMID
    2ND DAY 100MG OF CLOMID
    THEN FOR THE NEXT 19 DAYS 50MG A DAY 21 DAYS TOTAL OF PCT
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    • #3
      Re: What is the best beginner cycle?

      SEEMS YOUR DIET OS OK JUST CONSUME ALOT OF GOOD CALORIES4-5000 CALORIES A DAY.YOUR FRIENDS RECOMENDATION SUCK DONT LISTEN TO THEM. AND YOU WILL GET SOME BLOAT BUT JUST WATCH WHAT YOU EAT. WATCH THE SALT INTAKE AND SUGER,DRINK A GALLON OF WATER A DAY. CARDIO 3X A WEEK 20 MINUTES.

      GOOD MULTI VITAMIN WILL DO.
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      • #4
        Re: What is the best beginner cycle?

        what fuzo said you could also add 300 mgs of deca a week and maybe 25mgs of dbol a day for the first four weeks but the dbol will add bloat and you may have to do something about the dress shirts! fuzo knows his stuff i am not trying to contradick what he was saying!!!

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        • #5
          Re: What is the best beginner cycle?

          Wow im suprised at how fast I recieved help from you guys! I did forget to add I already drink a minimum of a gallon of water a day. I just do it to be healthy in general. by test do you mean testabol propionate? sorry if its a silly question, but i mnot really educated with this stuff
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          • #6
            Re: What is the best beginner cycle?

            Originally posted by ByRoN View Post
            what fuzo said you could also add 300 mgs of deca a week and maybe 25mgs of dbol a day for the first four weeks but the dbol will add bloat and you may have to do something about the dress shirts! fuzo knows his stuff i am not trying to contradick what he was saying!!!


            YEAH YOU DID FAG,LOL J/K
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            • #7
              Re: What is the best beginner cycle?

              Originally posted by grandfinale03 View Post
              Wow im suprised at how fast I recieved help from you guys! I did forget to add I already drink a minimum of a gallon of water a day. I just do it to be healthy in general. by test do you mean testabol propionate? sorry if its a silly question, but i mnot really educated with this stuff
              If you a are trying to bulk up which is most likely for first cycles test enanthate .(which is a long ester test) test prop is a shorter acting test which means more pokes ed or eod or e 3rd day .
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              • #8
                Re: What is the best beginner cycle?

                400-500 mg test enan or cyp a week...nothing else but some anti-e....
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                • #9
                  Re: What is the best beginner cycle?

                  Instead of making another thread i figured id post this here. I dont wanna be a thread-*****. What is Equipoise? I know its a steroid but is it a decent one? Who would use it?
                  Grandfinale03

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                  • #10
                    Re: What is the best beginner cycle?

                    Go to the steroid profiles forum section.

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                    • #11
                      Re: What is the best beginner cycle?

                      first time ,no need to stack several items. Your body is going to react great to just an increase in test. Go with a test only cycle. I would take it no higher than 600mgs a week for 10-12 weeks. Thats all you need to get great gains. I did the exact cycle for my first and put on 25lbs. Mostly lean weight that I kept. No need to use Equipoise in the first one bro.

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                      • #12
                        Re: What is the best beginner cycle?

                        WERD!! im so glad to see such level headed advice im so tired of newbies shooting prop and tren


                        Originally posted by FUZO View Post
                        TEST 500MG A WEEK FOR 12 WEEKS NOLVA 20MG A DAY DURING YOUR CYCLE

                        PCT- CLOMID


                        3 WEEKS AFTER LAST INJECTION CLOMID

                        1ST DAY 300MG OF CLOMID
                        2ND DAY 100MG OF CLOMID
                        THEN FOR THE NEXT 19 DAYS 50MG A DAY 21 DAYS TOTAL OF PCT

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                        • #13
                          Re: What is the best beginner cycle?

                          I didnt mean taking it with the test, Id take that by itself with nolva and clomid for pct. I already have my calander marked for it all. I did look up the profile but wanted peoples opinons on it in general. I appreciate all of the help, and wish me luck!
                          Grandfinale03

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                          • #14
                            Re: What is the best beginner cycle?

                            **take test by itself is what I mean to say in the prev. post.
                            Grandfinale03

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                            • #15
                              Re: What is the best beginner cycle?

                              fuzo summed it up real well. that's a great first cyc. i think most of us probly did that cyc.
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