What is the best beginner cycle?

[bgpittbull81]

Re: What is the best beginner cycle?

TEST E CYCLE BRO.12 WEEKS AT 500MG A WEEK BRO.CAINT GO WRONG IMO..
PCT IF NES...

[Fit2bLarge]

Re: What is the best beginner cycle?

haha, byron said contradick lol

[lxorl]

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keep the first one as simple as possible.... what fuzo said !

[BIG N]

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best begginer cycle ??LOTS and LOTS of food !!!!

[bgpittbull81]

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very true.......lol

[TestRip7]

Re: What is the best beginner cycle?

Make sure that you have ALL of your PCT on hand before your cycle. DO NOT WAIT TO GET IT, until you need it. Have everything on hand before you start. EAT, EAT, EAT, EAT you get the point.

[a-bomb83]

Re: What is the best beginner cycle?

byron, don't recommend 3 compounds for a first cycle. thats just dumb.

one of two choices.

1. as fuzo stated. 400 or 500mg/week of test enanthate or test cypionate. the 100mg difference won't matter too much, its just that USUALLY cyp is 200mg/ml and enanthate is 250mg/ml, whichever you can get. run this about 10-12 weeks.

2. 40 to 60mg/day of var and about 5-10g of creatine per day for about 8 weeks. that will yield some nice strength and even some size gains granted you eat like a horse.

don't worry about running something alongside your test cycle for bloat. teh only reason i say that is so that you can see if you will even bloat bad or not. everyone is different. now, i will recommend you have some nolvadex on hand as fuzo stated so if you do start to get itchy/sore nips, you can start taking that at 20mg/day and get rid of it before anything bad happens.

also, as test stated, make sure you have everything on hand before you start. everything from food, to anabolics, to pct...everything.

not knowing any ofyour stats, i can't really state how much food you should take in. if you're 5'10" and 160lbs (you shouldn't be using anabolics in the first place...but anyway) you shoudl shoot for about 3000-3500 cals/per day, but if you were more like say 6'2" and 200lbs, i'd say more like 4500-5000 cals per day. either way, make sure 80% of your diet is clean. since you'd be bulking, you can have a couple cheat meals per week, nothing wrong with that. just eat smart, and eat a lot. eat tons, train heavy, adequate sleep, and you'll grow.

[bgpittbull81]

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BUMP TP THAT BUDDY....ONE COMPOUND IS ALL YA NEED.... JUST EAT LIKE A HORSE AND YOU WILL GROW...

[HeHateMe]

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cyp or enth around 400mg/wk for ten weeks. No need to get all fancy on your first cycle. Save room for some play down the road.

[GBAGH]

Re: What is the best beginner cycle?

I wish that I had known to stack drugs for my first cycle. I think that I would have really liked taking enanthate at 400 mg per week along with deca at 300mg per week for about 12 weeks. I would also run about 1/2mg of liquidex every day through the cycle and post cycle therapy. A lot of guys will tell you to run only one thing (and if you do it should be test for certain) but I think that you will see better gains from test and deca. The dosing that I suggested is very moderate and you will certainly be able to climb from their easily is later cycles.

[HeHateMe]

Re: What is the best beginner cycle?

I wish that I had known to stack drugs for my first cycle. I think that I would have really liked taking enanthate at 400 mg per week along with deca at 300mg per week for about 12 weeks. I would also run about 1/2mg of liquidex every day through the cycle and post cycle therapy. A lot of guys will tell you to run only one thing (and if you do it should be test for certain) but I think that you will see better gains from test and deca. The dosing that I suggested is very moderate and you will certainly be able to climb from their easily is later cycles.

The problem with this logic is that you will not know what compound did what. If you save test/deca for cycle number two you can atleast make a comparison of how you responded to just the testosterone cycle (different side effects, strength gains, quality of weight gained, etc etc etc).

[pigmeat]

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TEST ONLY!!!!400mg a week!!! Nothing more, nothing less. If you cant grow off this (even for a second or third cycle) yo0u are not doing things right

[jamescb77]

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i agree bro test only is a great first cycle that you should be able to frow from no problem don't stack anything unless maybe some dbol for the first four weeks but from your goals that is not something that you should really do anyways

[GBAGH]

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The problem with this logic is that you will not know what compound did what. If you save test/deca for cycle number two you can atleast make a comparison of how you responded to just the testosterone cycle (different side effects, strength gains, quality of weight gained, etc etc etc).

That is true. My first cycle was aratest only at 2ml per week. I didn't really gain much, but that was around the time that aratest was suspect anyway. After that I went for 8 weeks of Denkall deca and it was awesome, but it really wasn't enough for me to be happy with my gains. My third time around I learned a lot at the old FB forums and put in a lot of time studying before I did a sustanon, deca, drol cycle (which I won't recommend drol to a beginner ever). Putting the test and the deca together for me was like peanut butter and jelly, it just didn't seem right to leave them apart after that LOL.

However, if you are going to do only one drug test should be it. If you decide that test only is the way that you want to go I would go with 2ml of whatever test you choose (enanthate, cypionate, sustanon) which will give you around 400-500mg of test per week. Look up liquidex and nolvadex, both of which I recommend. Also, clomid.

[DragonRider]

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My primary goal is to gain a lot of strength , and my secondary goal is to have the leanest gains as possible that can be kept. Obviously I would like to get some muscle size too I have a few friends recommend dbol + win, or deca + win.

Oh, and one other stipulation I have is that I cant bloat too much because I wear dress shirts and dont really want to buy bigger ones because my neck wont button. Sounds like a dumb problem, but its a problem nonetheless.

If one of your goals isn't the need to buy bigger shirts, then you don't need to mess with steroids.

That's how I guage my success with a cycle. Some people go by how much weight they gain. If I don't need to go buy bigger shirts, the cycle was a total waste. I'm just kidding. Well, only a little.