Day 4 on DNP and not feeling the heat

[Hyperlite]

I'll finish off these caps, then take a 2 week break and start caps from a different source.

[AnotherUser]

You can go as long as you feel comfortable going. There is no limit. "21 days" was pulled out of someone's ass. So is the standard "10 days" at a high dose. Noone has ANY data that supports these claims. The 10 days recommendation is based on the fact that noone can stand to be on it for more than 10 days at a time.

[Hyperlite]

sounds good to me

On a side note, today i started getting strict with my diet. So sunday night i ATE the F*** out of food and i lost 1.5lbs! lol,Crazy!

[CubanJuice]

Originally posted by AnotherUser
You can go as long as you feel comfortable going. There is no limit. "21 days" was pulled out of someone's ass. So is the standard "10 days" at a high dose. Noone has ANY data that supports these claims. The 10 days recommendation is based on the fact that noone can stand to be on it for more than 10 days at a time.

Yeah sure, the number was pulled out of someone's ass like every other number we come up with in here, based on personal experience safety and common sense. After 10 days at high doses your thyroids shut down for starters... I guess the stuff about it being very deadly also came out of someone's ass... Ever done DNP yourself? Also, by those standars, where is the proooove and data that runing it for "as long as you feel confortable" is safe and recommended??? You're basically telling people run a very toxic substance for as long as you can take it regardless of dose because I disagree with what 100% of the users say... say what!? Sounds like you pulled that one right out of your own ass!! :2gunsfiri

[AnotherUser]

Originally posted by CubanJuice
Yeah sure, the number was pulled out of someone's ass like every other number we come up with in here, based on personal experience safety and common sense. After 10 days at high doses your thyroids shut down for starters... I guess the stuff about it being very deadly also came out of someone's ass... Ever done DNP yourself? Also, by those standars, where is the proooove and data that runing it for "as long as you feel confortable" is safe and recommended??? You're basically telling people run a very toxic substance for as long as you can take it regardless of dose because I disagree with what 100% of the users say... say what!? Sounds like you pulled that one right out of your own ass!! :2gunsfiri

Listen you little shit, don't smart off when you don't know what you're talking about. I've used DNP 3 seperate times, twice at higher doses (500mg/day)and once at a lower dose (250mg/day). How many times have you used it? Just checking...

Second, have you ever seen a study that gives any recommendation for the length of time DNP should be used? I haven't. And I've searched PubMed and several other online journals extensively. Something I'm SURE that you've done yourself since you're putting this "toxic substance" into your body.

Third, would you please elabortate on "personal experience, safety, and common sense?" What personal experience would tell you to only take it for 10 days? The death of a few people at day 11? What "safety data" are you referring to? Who's to say that 10 days is safe? You? Ha. Do you mind showing me some studies that show that DNP suppresses thyroid production at low levels? I've never seen any, and I've heard several people argue that it only happens at high doses. Hyperlite seems to be going with the lower dose approach.

And when did I say this stuff wasn't deadly? It can be if misused, just like almost any drug. People take massive doses of tylenol to commit suicide. However, if used appropriately by someone without any previous medical conditions, it's not ALL that dangerous with a few minor precaucions.

So get your head out of your ass and comment on something that you know about, as this entire thread shows that you obviously don't know much about DNP.

[CubanJuice]

Little shit your mother. I'm on a cycle right now at 600mg/ day bumping to 800mg/ day. I've probably done more research on it than you'll ever do judging by your ignorance about DNP. You don't even know the recommended lenght of the cycle probably not even the supplements to take along with it. You get through those crapy 250/500mg cycles alive because of inertia, who knows hopefully one day you'll od and die and we'll find out the nasty sides of DNP and long cycles. Then we'll pull up this post all over the net and see what a numbnuts you were and how NOT to follow personal idiotic egoistic opinions vs true and tried methods by vets and more experienced people.

Got nothing else to say to you. So fuck off die of move to Alaska for all I care about whatever the fuck you gotta say next .

[Mudge]

Originally posted by Hyperlite
I was having like 5 bowls of cereal, so all should be good now.

Shit man, I can't cut even on moderate milk intake - now cereal on the other hand is fucking weight gainer for me.

[AnotherUser]

Originally posted by CubanJuice
I'm on a cycle right now at 600mg/ day bumping to 800mg/ day.

What's your point? That it's your first cycle? Enough said. And from the reactions that you have been posting, your shit sounds way underdosed. Ask anyone else here who has had real DNP what 600+mg/day feels like. Sounds to me like you really know what you're talking about...

I've probably done more research on it than you'll ever do judging by your ignorance about DNP. You don't even know the recommended lenght of the cycle probably not even the supplements to take along with it.

What does your research include? "Um, excuse me mister moderator, sir. Could you please tell me exactly what I should do because I don't have a brain for myself and can't combine my own common sense and research with what other people say. I'll just do exactly as you say." Sounds like a winner to me. How many times do I have to tell people that mod != (does not equal) God. Gearedup even gave agreed with me about this a few months ago. And besides, even if a mod is knowledgable about steroids does NOT mean that they know what they are talking about when it comes to DNP.

And the comment about the supplements was really stupid. Do you think that constitutes research? Knowing what supplements are recommended to be taken with DNP? Wow, you're so smart. That's definately a tightly kept secret. Can you enlighten me, please?

You get through those crapy 250/500mg cycles alive because of inertia, who knows hopefully one day you'll od and die and we'll find out the nasty sides of DNP and long cycles.

I they were crapy then why would I choose to do 3 with others planned? I just had blood work done 2 weeks ago. Everything was perfect, which was actually an IMPROVEMENT over 6 months ago. Do you get your blood work done every 6 months?

Then we'll pull up this post all over the net and see what a numbnuts you were and how NOT to follow personal idiotic egoistic opinions vs true and tried methods by vets and more experienced people.

Oh please do.

Got nothing else to say to you. So fuck off die of move to Alaska for all I care about whatever the fuck you gotta say next .

No seriously, instead of just calling me names, I would really appreciate it if you would reply with some sort of intelligent conversion addressing some of the points I made in this AND the last post. Or can you do that?
:p

[Hyperlite]

Let's not turn this thread into a big Flame, take it to PM's please! This thread seems to have a lot of views and replies and i believe it would greatly benefit the forum if it doesn't get closed due to your flamming of each other.

[AnotherUser]

It wasn't meant to be started as a flame. Asshole over here insulted me for giving my advice and I replied with a number of reasons to defend myself. If he was intelligent enough to discuss what I pointed out it would be a discussion and some people might learn. But instead he can't do ANYTHING but call names without backing himself up.

[Hyperlite]

We'll i've read over somemore material and there is not evidence that says you should only run it for a certain amount of time. It's simply left up to the user's discresion.

I also found this site by accident, http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/ar...002/05/1/44307

check it out! 42 days!

[CubanJuice]

Don't worry, I already put that asshole on ignore a while ago.

[Hyperlite]

Cuban- hows the cycle coming along, you started a couple days ago right?

[CubanJuice]

yes ran it so far like this (powder from pl)
Thu 200mg/d
Frid 400mg/d
Sat 400mg/d
Sun 600mg/d
Mon 600mg/d
Tue (today) 800mg/d

The fucked up thing is I DON'T FEEL JACK SHIT!! I feel a little bloated at times but nothing else. I've actually gained 3lbs so I hope that's water...

I trust my source. I know they say you can't but I wonder if I have a tolerance to DNP?

[AnotherUser]

Well since CubanJuice can't see this, I guess I have free reign to say what I want about him...

What a fucking moron... "I DON'T FEEL JACK SHIT" So he's using fake DNP and he's trying to tell me I don't know shit? BTW, thanks for the support Hyperlite. I'd appreciate it if other people would tell this dousche bag for me how stupid he is.