Dont you all ever think about the health risks of roids in the future

[BiggerStronger]

Steroids - Suddenly we are afraid to drink, because it might damage our bodies when we didn't care about the massive amounts we would consume before. We stop taking the drugs, because we are afraid that it will slow down are gains or workouts...We suddenly have so much passion to work out and better our selves.

Does it make us better people...which one is worse???

I don't know, but it feels good to reach your goals...it feels good to actually have something to work for...it feels good to have a reason to resist temptation of other "bad things". If you do them safely then your risks are far less then any drug abuser or alcoholic, in more ways then one.

[Atle]

Originally posted by TheGame1976
I think when you are on for 26 or 52 weeks straight you have a problem!

have not been off for several years,cant say i have a problem!

[THE JUICE]

Originally posted by AnotherUser
Agreed. Steroids can't be too much worse for my heart than my old fast food diet.

i agree with u there bro, I think the risks are higher with smoking, drinking, heavy drug use, and not eating properly like fast foods and high cholestrol foods, now that can kill u. My aunt never took care of her self while young and now shes diabetic, well has been but now the condition is worst and dosent use any insulin or all. Or like my grandmother sick also due to the wrong eating habits she once did.
I understand roids are bad and all but at least we take care of ourselves on what we eat. We just dont eat whatever, we balance out our foods, proteins, carbs, fats, etc. I dont think we juice for nothing there. I dont think someone is gonna wanna spend hundreds of bucks in roids and for no gains. Thats why I eat what I can and not just whatever. As long as I take care of my self, do cardio, keep active, not eat what ever, get my blood check as well as my heart, prostate, I wont worry. I wanna have a long life and be with my family if I do have one. I wanna see my kids grow up, get married, etc. I wanna have some grand kids too. I 'll just get checked regularly.

[THE JUICE]

Originally posted by PHABIO
a couple of cool articles from a doc about steroids:

http://www.drmirkin.com/fitness/7843.htm

http://www.drmirkin.com/fitness/1146.html

Thats a good article Phabio. Yeah, its cause the media and people who dont know jack crap about roids that give it a bad name. Like last time on that Talk Show, talking bad about roids, people dont know crap until they research and know more about them.

[tinytim]

Originally posted by THE JUICE
Thats a good article Phabio. Yeah, its cause the media and people who dont know jack crap about roids that give it a bad name. Like last time on that Talk Show, talking bad about roids, people dont know crap until they research and know more about them.

i thought the second article was crap .....it was written like a kid in highschool....just my oppinion


i do agree with ya that most poeple dont know crap about AAS ....and will belive anyhting.....i also belive that young guys who think being big means everything in life....will do or take anyhting some gym rat trys to sell them, without first educating themself. when in fact most chics want a guy with his head on his shoulders.....thats good looking....if hes big some chicks think its a bonus some not.


tiny's$.02

[AnotherUser]

I agree. I've seen quite a few "average" guys (ie, not especially good looking, and not big) with amazing chicks. I think it's more personality than anything else. Having a good body is a definate bonus, but it's definately not everything.

[Manic Behavior]

I should have died several times by now. Steroids are the least of my problems, if it wasn't for lifting and the motivation to get big, I would still be mainlining meth or trying to kill myself. Steroids have saved my life. They are my anti-drug.

[tinytim]

Originally posted by Atle
have not been off for several years,cant say i have a problem!

what has your long cycle been??

if you were to come off would your dick still work ???

have you been checked out regularly at the doc.....what were the results?

any sides at all???

whats your stats???

i ask so many questions b/c lately there have been a few conversations on FG about this subjecxt of long term AAS use.
and not too many responses that help support the idea of long term useage. just wana know how you relly feel about it......
.....i know of a few stupid 20yr olds that have been on for like 7-8 months ...and to me it just seems crazy...


anyone have studies to back up longe term use????

tiny

[tinytim]

Originally posted by Manic Behavior
I should have died several times by now. Steroids are the least of my problems, if it wasn't for lifting and the motivation to get big, I would still be mainlining meth or trying to kill myself. Steroids have saved my life. They are my anti-drug.

kinda sucks that when people are trying to make such a possitive chang in their life, we have to be so sneeky b/c we dont want to go to jail....well i guess its as usual ......" a few screw it up for us all."

[PHABIO]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by tinytim
[B]i thought the second article was crap .....it was written like a kid in highschool....just my oppinion

Tinytim,
I think you have to read more into that article (and to the end).

What the doc is doing here he is confronting stereotypical opinions about side effects of AS with the opinions of professional athletes who used them, one of them a friend and Olympic champion.

None of them regrets using AS, although some of them had problems with health associated with playing sports on the extreme levels (not necessarly and directly linked to AS).

I guess that a conclusion could be drawn here that in retrospective all these athletes knowing the quality of life and the succes they have achieved thanks to AS and comparing that to the bad side effects they have experienced from it (if any) - they are still in favor of using AS.

What more could you expect in an article coming from a main stream doc about using banned and illegal substances?

[PHABIO]

Originally posted by AnotherUser
I agree. I've seen quite a few "average" guys (ie, not especially good looking, and not big) with amazing chicks. I think it's more personality than anything else. Having a good body is a definate bonus, but it's definately not everything.

C'mon guys,

what does getting chicks have to do with anything?

If this was of any merit in our discussion we would have to agree that Hugh Heffner is the best looking, the wisest and with the most personality man alive!

[prolangtum]

Originally posted by PHABIO

If this was of any merit in our discussion we would have to agree that Hugh Heffner is the best looking, the wisest and with the most personality man alive!

Maybe he is................................................ ..



I was thinking about this, and I came to a conclusion. Quality vs. Quantity. Meaning, i would rather have lived the prime of my life to its fullest (20-40), than plodded along average, even if i cut my life short 10 years by using steroids. Who knows, maybe if i wasnt in the gym 6 days a week, i woudl be in the car more, getting in an accident, or sitting on the couch, eating, developing type II diabetes.

[Atle]

last 5 years have i been off like 6 month.i went off because i had to go for 6 month too jail.my dick will not work good if i go off!i go regulary too doc. my livervalues are around 150-200.it is no prob.the rest is ok.i have more sides when i go off.tests in jail showed it.

[AnotherUser]

Originally posted by PHABIO
C'mon guys,

what does getting chicks have to do with anything?

If this was of any merit in our discussion we would have to agree that Hugh Heffner is the best looking, the wisest and with the most personality man alive!

When you're young, sincle and in your prime, getting chicks has to do with EVERYTHING Who are you trying to look good for, yourself? C'mon....

[scorpion]

This is a very interesting post and like to read what you guys had too say............