Dont you all ever think about the health risks of roids in the future

[gearedup]

I have many old school BB guys and now they have heart rates of 160+ just walking and stuff and 2 friends, people I know had heart surgery... not to mention Arnold! Out of anything I have a really cool fitness doctor I see and he knows his shit and even takes steroids and he told me that all the blood tests we get for liver and kidneys and we think we are fine it will go away... that isnt the main concern it is the heart and only the heart that mainly suffers! You may not care now but when you have a family and are 40 you will want to live to see your kid growup! I have partied more than most people have there entire lives and lived life to its fullest, you live by the day, you die by the day"

Steroids are ok but dont go crazy, I am wanting to see what the top pros of todays problems are later in there life when I see them now sometimes wanting to pass out walking to there car!

[gearedup]

Originally posted by Lmg2701
Heart disease runs in my family so I know AS will increase the chance of possible heart problems in the future, but my long term goals as far as bodybuilding goes compells me to use AS. I guess it's a personal choice we have to make. We don't talk about it much, but the side effects of AS are there and they are real whether some choose to believe it or not. Don't get me wrong, the media blows things way out of proportion but the obvious long term sides when thinking about liver, kidneys, and heart problems are definitely there.

You are right we talk like they arent there, admit they are and make a fucking choice... I used to preach the same tune... now you guys go over to bluelight or some drug board where they talk only about getting high and all they talk about is that the stuff doesnt harm you and wont and come up with reasons why, it is really lying to yourself!

[DangerousGround]

naa, were all born to die

[THE JUICE]

Yeah, we only live once and it wouldnt hurt trying to get bigger faster but also the increase of chances in diseases. I just wont over do it, before all I said was one cycle only and now I have 3 under me and would take shit for 2 weeks to a month at times. I started since I was around 17 now Im 21. If I get to my goal of 235 this cycle Ill be happy and cut it out if not try to reach that goal next cycle.

[BiggerStronger]

I think about it often...I feel I'll have problems in the future if I don't take care of myself. I've already had some scary shit happen before...not cool. High blood pressure, blood in urine/seminal fluids, etc. I can't be sure it was AAS, but I'm also not sure if it wasn't...

No problems since as I keep an eye on my health a lot better then before...

I'm only going to be 21 this summer. I want to live a long life so once I reach my goals within a year or two I'll be out of this game for a while. Maybe when I'm a little older (~25-30) I might hit up a small cycle every couple of years. Maybe 300-400mg of test per week and some anavar. I just don't want serious heart problems that will leave me dead with a couple of kids without a father.

Muscles are worthless when your insides are rotting.

[Shear_Madness]

Sure I realize that there may be health benefits from AS use, but, I also realize that there is also a chance of me getting in a car accident everytime I get behind the wheel.

[tinytim]

any one have some articles or studys on some of the things mentiond on this thread...like heart problems prostate issues?????

[AnotherUser]

I think that the heart issues may also have some sort of correlation to how big you actually get. Lets face it, a 250 pound guy's heart has one hell of a time supplying his muscles with blood, while a 180 lb doesn't have near the stress.

I don't have proof, but I personally feel that the heart related problems are more of a problem due to body size than to the actually chemicals.

[Scottexercise]

Think on this, Most anti-aging clinic prescribe 2-3 iu's p/day (hgh) at least 200mg p/wk of test and hcg. That recipe makes the ageing guy look and feel younger. Most dudes here are doing normal cyc. (not too x treme) Most dudes here are concerned about their health, thats why they are working out and asking the right questions, I'm willing to bet that most guys here will out live and have better quality of life than the average couch potato and average Joe who loves to point his finger and say " must be on the juice!"

[AnotherUser]

Agreed. Steroids can't be too much worse for my heart than my old fast food diet.

[PHABIO]

I think we all rather live one good year in a glory than instead many misearable, frustrating years not knowing even that we are still alive...

[BigSoda]

I figure as much other shit I ve done this is the best of them by far,just like gu said day by day

[PIT]

Originally posted by rude
I have been thinking about it and I havent even had a real cycle. Thats why when I do my cycles im going to try to stick to steroids that are a little safer then others. Hence the reason why my first real cycle is going to be equipoise/anavar since they are both low in sides.

What are you gonna run for dosages\length???

This is a cycle that I'm a big fan of, Even though there is no test in the mix, works great for me evrytime.

[PHABIO]

a couple of cool articles from a doc about steroids:

http://www.drmirkin.com/fitness/7843.htm

http://www.drmirkin.com/fitness/1146.html

[bigfishe]

Of all the drugs,very bad food and un safe sex i have had, this is the lessor of two evils. When on or off cycle, theres no doubt my life is better with steroids than not =)