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shit man, most docs in my area wont script you unless you are sub 200 and endos damn sure wont here. doesnt matter if you feel like shit and your dick dont work, they still consider you to be in the normal range above 200. damn ass clowns. then again my doc that is a rock star told me that most insurance wont cover it if it isnt below 200 on two panels in a row. so you have that too
Ha! ive made the 50 club so not sure what if at all that helps but i was 407/3.2 with my test readings.. everything else came out really good surpisingly as i havent been to a doctor in over 10 years.
i forgot how fantastic you feel with a little testosterone.
i went to a mens clinic not a regular doctor if that matters, i do recommend tho.. no negatives as of yet
Wife works at a hospital and just send the labs to her cardiologist and they are going to make an appointment for me.
Yeah same here. I'm on the low end but they wont even consider trt for you unless you drop below 200.
ok, good man. from what all i have learned the past couple of years about heart health we were completely wrong on rbc and hemocrit being the biggest issue. same thing with lipids even though jacked up lipids are not good they arent the biggest issue. apo b and insulin are the big ones to watch out for. their are a couple other clotting factor ones also but that's the ones that all the docs talk about with bodybuilders and aas users. my doc doesnt even care so much about my rbc and hemocrit as long as it isnt making me feel like crap. he always watches those along with platletes and hemoglobin. if those get funky then we start making changes. that along with insulin and apo b obviously.
alright man, i am not going to freak you out or anything but with your lipids being jacked up and you didnt put the numbers in, your c reactive being high and your apd b also being high. this is not a good sign for heart health at all. now i am not saying you are going to fall over dead from a heart attack but that apo b is a key indicator that you may have heart issues going on. idk if you have insurance or good insurance or not but if you do i would try to get into a cardiologist and get a echo, nuclear stress test and maybe even a ct scan with contrast. that way you can see if you have any blockages what your calcium score is and that it is doing what it is supposed to be doing. if you dont have great insurance or any at all their is a company called craft body scan that is doing a huge promotion this month for 99 bucks that will do a full heart and lung scan for both you and your spouse. i just went with my wife last week and had mine done so she could get her's for 99 bucks and not have to go through the cardiologist. i have done all the above tests as well as an annual echo just to make sure i am all good. i had a pretty bad scare a couple years ago and thought i was having a heart attack but it was my guts and they did up all that stuff for me and since i have a family history of issues i am able to do it yearly now. what blew my mind was that i had a zero calcium score and all my stuff was completely clear even after all the crap i have pushed over the years and nasty shit i have breathed and been exposed to in the military. i did have to wear a holter monitor this year because i was getting some random racing and pounding but it came back pretty much clear. i had a couple incidents but they were short and very small.
like i said take a look into getting checked out man. jump on gama e from life extension nattokinease and a good quality fish oil asap. i use morphogen nutritions omega that is both fish oil and nattokinease. i have it on a damn subscription service. those will thin out your blood protect your heart and improve your hdl. i am sure i will think of other stuff later since i have carb depleted brains right now.
your thyroid also looks a little low also
Wife works at a hospital and just send the labs to her cardiologist and they are going to make an appointment for me.
shit man, most docs in my area wont script you unless you are sub 200 and endos damn sure wont here. doesnt matter if you feel like shit and your dick dont work, they still consider you to be in the normal range above 200. damn ass clowns. then again my doc that is a rock star told me that most insurance wont cover it if it isnt below 200 on two panels in a row. so you have that too
Yeah same here. I'm on the low end but they wont even consider trt for you unless you drop below 200.
with test levels like those youd be canidate for trt. mine where round the same before i started
shit man, most docs in my area wont script you unless you are sub 200 and endos damn sure wont here. doesnt matter if you feel like shit and your dick dont work, they still consider you to be in the normal range above 200. damn ass clowns. then again my doc that is a rock star told me that most insurance wont cover it if it isnt below 200 on two panels in a row. so you have that too
your fasted is a little high and would be optimal at 80-85 but your post meal is great and your processing glucose well. do those tests a few times a day to get a good base line of your post meal numbers just to see how you are doing.
Good to know. I will need to get in the habit of checking this more often to figure out where I'm sitting regularly.
I got my tests back. There's way more in the test than on here but I think these are the important ones? Plus its all the stuff that was high or low compared to ref range. Again this was a fasted and natural test no gear for a long time.
Glucose is 79
Insulin is 5.7
HDL is "low"
LDL is "high"
Test is 278.4
Free test is 8.57
Free test % is 3.08
Estradiol 21.6
Progesterone 0.1
Prolactin 8.4
Hemoglobin A1C is 5.2
DHEA is "high" 481
Cortisol is 6.3
Insulin like growth factor 178
Vitamin D "low" 27.1
C-reactive protein "high" 4.03
Free t3 is 2.8
Free t4 is 1.6
Apolipoprotein B "high" 104
alright man, i am not going to freak you out or anything but with your lipids being jacked up and you didnt put the numbers in, your c reactive being high and your apd b also being high. this is not a good sign for heart health at all. now i am not saying you are going to fall over dead from a heart attack but that apo b is a key indicator that you may have heart issues going on. idk if you have insurance or good insurance or not but if you do i would try to get into a cardiologist and get a echo, nuclear stress test and maybe even a ct scan with contrast. that way you can see if you have any blockages what your calcium score is and that it is doing what it is supposed to be doing. if you dont have great insurance or any at all their is a company called craft body scan that is doing a huge promotion this month for 99 bucks that will do a full heart and lung scan for both you and your spouse. i just went with my wife last week and had mine done so she could get her's for 99 bucks and not have to go through the cardiologist. i have done all the above tests as well as an annual echo just to make sure i am all good. i had a pretty bad scare a couple years ago and thought i was having a heart attack but it was my guts and they did up all that stuff for me and since i have a family history of issues i am able to do it yearly now. what blew my mind was that i had a zero calcium score and all my stuff was completely clear even after all the crap i have pushed over the years and nasty shit i have breathed and been exposed to in the military. i did have to wear a holter monitor this year because i was getting some random racing and pounding but it came back pretty much clear. i had a couple incidents but they were short and very small.
like i said take a look into getting checked out man. jump on gama e from life extension nattokinease and a good quality fish oil asap. i use morphogen nutritions omega that is both fish oil and nattokinease. i have it on a damn subscription service. those will thin out your blood protect your heart and improve your hdl. i am sure i will think of other stuff later since i have carb depleted brains right now.
with test levels like those youd be canidate for trt. mine where round the same before i started
I'm honestly shocked its not lower with all the cycles and dumb shit ive done.
I started 250ish mg per week of test E and 125mg per week of primo per week the day after the blood test so its been 1 week of that so far. I'm doing daily subq injections of both.
Yesterday was also my first say of semgaglutide. Also doing daily subq injections of that instead of one giant dose per week.
After checking my levels fasted in the morning i did 30 minutes of fasted cardio in a sauna suit.
then I ate breakfast
3 whole eggs
1 cup egg whites
1 packet of grits
1 English muffin with 1 serving of honey
1 sparkling water
1 strike force energy packet
1 half lemon squeezed into water
Finished breakfast around 9:20am
took my blood again at 11:30 - 2 hours later and my number was 90.
I'm new to this but I believe these are good numbers?
your fasted is a little high and would be optimal at 80-85 but your post meal is great and your processing glucose well. do those tests a few times a day to get a good base line of your post meal numbers just to see how you are doing.
I got my tests back. There's way more in the test than on here but I think these are the important ones? Plus its all the stuff that was high or low compared to ref range. Again this was a fasted and natural test no gear for a long time.
Glucose is 79
Insulin is 5.7
HDL is "low"
LDL is "high"
Test is 278.4
Free test is 8.57
Free test % is 3.08
After checking my levels fasted in the morning i did 30 minutes of fasted cardio in a sauna suit.
then I ate breakfast
3 whole eggs
1 cup egg whites
1 packet of grits
1 English muffin with 1 serving of honey
1 sparkling water
1 strike force energy packet
1 half lemon squeezed into water
Finished breakfast around 9:20am
took my blood again at 11:30 - 2 hours later and my number was 90.
I'm new to this but I believe these are good numbers?
i use a contour one touch. it has an app that you put on your phone to keep averages etc.... honestly as long as you are consistent it is going to be pretty accurate. i need to get one of the one's that does your a1c as well but both the tests and the monitors are expensive as shit. good stuff to keep track of though
I got the same one in the mail I believe yesterday. Woke up today and tested before I didn't do anything just like you said didn't even pee just did the test.
i would go between 2700-3k to start with and see what weight does after a week or so. if it doesnt move up or down then i would increase it again. you should see a small increase in weight until it levels off then ride that for a while then you can start pulling it down again once your metabolism has reset. that's when you start pulling them back down again.
as for compounds, it really doesnt matter what you run in reality they are all pretty much going to increase muscle which in turn will help you burn fat. i would prob keep the tren for when you get a little leaner. more inclined to go with test mast primo for a little estro control and not harsh. think of it as playing cards. first start with adding in cardio, when that stops working, then drop cals a little, when that stops then you can either add in a fat burner or even increase cardio etc..... you want to have options to prevent stalling and increasing cardio and cutting cals are the ones you want to hold off on as long as possible
Thank you guns your the man. I'm going to do this and see how things go.
According to the calculators online my base MBR is about 2,200 cals per day (this is where I made the mistake and cut my calories based on this number not my TDEE number, so the drop was way to drastic. Rookie mistake, lesson learned).
According to this calculator online:
Basal Metabolic Rate 2,256 calories per day
Sedentary 2,707 calories per day
Light Exercise 3,102 calories per day
Moderate Exercise 3,497 calories per day
Heavy Exercise 3,892 calories per day
Athlete 4,286 calories per day
Any suggestions on where I should shoot for calories wise? 3,500? I will do 10k steps per day for cardio with as much of that fasted in the morning as possible + whatever I do normally steps wise throughout the day and I will add in daily weight lifting now too.
I just started primo 125mg per week and test e 250mg per week yesterday. Subq daily shots.
Now with this bomb shell I'm considering switching to test e, tren e, test e combo subq daily? Maybe I can add on enough muscle to help ramp up the metabolism and slowly start swapping fat for muscle or is that stupid thinking too?
i would go between 2700-3k to start with and see what weight does after a week or so. if it doesnt move up or down then i would increase it again. you should see a small increase in weight until it levels off then ride that for a while then you can start pulling it down again once your metabolism has reset. that's when you start pulling them back down again.
as for compounds, it really doesnt matter what you run in reality they are all pretty much going to increase muscle which in turn will help you burn fat. i would prob keep the tren for when you get a little leaner. more inclined to go with test mast primo for a little estro control and not harsh. think of it as playing cards. first start with adding in cardio, when that stops working, then drop cals a little, when that stops then you can either add in a fat burner or even increase cardio etc..... you want to have options to prevent stalling and increasing cardio and cutting cals are the ones you want to hold off on as long as possible
Not what I would like to hear but certainly much better news that I was expecting. Thank you so much guns I feel so much better now.
I will recalculate my calories and go into a surplus and just train hard and continue my cardio.
Is there a monitor that you recommend? I looked on amazon last night and there's a ton of them with great reviews but also a lot of people are saying they are inconstant or inaccurate.
i use a contour one touch. it has an app that you put on your phone to keep averages etc.... honestly as long as you are consistent it is going to be pretty accurate. i need to get one of the one's that does your a1c as well but both the tests and the monitors are expensive as shit. good stuff to keep track of though
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