hcg question

[jamescb77]

ok im kinda new to hcg but im trying to learn it up here. so as far as ive read it helps to increase ball size or to keep your balls full. however it does not help natural test production. if it doesn't help you keep your natural test production what does it matter if your balls are big. small balls with no test production are the same as big balls with no test production there is still no test production. IM i right or wrong here? someone please shed me some light

[FUZO]

Re: hcg question

HCG, is not an anabolic/an-drogenic steroid but a natural protein hormone which develops in the placenta of a pregnant woman. HCG is manufac-tured from the urine of pregnant women since it is excreted in un-changed form from the blood via the woman's urine, passing through the kidneys. The commercially available HCG is sold as a dry substance and can be used both in men and women. in women injectable HCG allows for ovulation since it influences the last stages of the development of the ovum, thus stimulating ovulation. In a man HCG stimulates pro-duction of androgenic hormones (testosterone). For this reason athletes use injectable HCG to increase the testosterone produc-tion. HCG is often used in combination with anabolic/androgenic steroids during or after treatment. Since the body usually needs a certain amount of time to get its testoster-one production going again, the athlete, after discontinuing ste-roid compounds, experiences a difficult transition phase which often goes hand in hand with a considerable loss in both strength and muscle mass. Administering HCG directly after steroid treat-ment helps to reduce this condition because HCG increases the testosterone production in the testes very quickly and reliably. In the event of testicular atrophy caused by mega doses and very long periods of usage, HCG also helps to quickly bring the testes back to their original condition (size). Since occasional injections of HCG during steroid intake can avoid a testicular atrophy, many athletes use HCG for two to three weeks in the middle of their steroid treatment. It is often observed that during this time the athlete makes his best progress with respect to gains in both strength and muscle mass. Those who are on the juice all year round, who might suffer psychological consequences or who would perhaps risk the breakup of a relationship because of this should consider this drawback when taking HCG in regular in-tervals. A reduced libido and spermatogenesis due to steroids, in most cases, can be successfully cured by treatment with HCG.

Most athletes, however, use HCG at the end of a treatment in order to avoid a "crash," that is, to achieve the best possible transition into "natural training." A precondition, however, is that the steroid intake or dosage be reduced slowly and evenly before taking HCG. Although HCG causes a quick and significant increase of the endogenic plasma- testosterone level, unfortunately it is not a perfect remedy to prevent the loss of strength and mass at the end of a steroid treatment. Although HCG does stimulate endogenous testosterone production, it does not help in re-estab-lishing the normal hypothalamic/pituitary testicular axis. The hypothalamus and pituitary are still in a refractory state after prolonged steroid usage, and remain this way while HCG is being used, because the endogenous testosterone produced as a-result of the exogenous HCG represses the endogenous LH production. Once the HCG is discontinued, the athlete must still go through a re-adjustment period. This is merely delayed by the HCG use." For this reason experienced athletes often take Clomid and Clenbuterol following HCG intake or they immediately begin an-other steroid treatment. Some take HCG merely to get off the "steroids" for at least two to three weeks.

HCG package insert states clearly that HCG "has no known effect of fat mobilization, appetite or sense of hunger, or body fat distribution." It further states, "HCG has not been demonstrated to be effective adjunctive therapy in the treatment of obesity, it does not increase fat losses beyond that resulting from caloric restriction. 6000 I.U. of HCG in a single injection resulted in elevated testosterone levels for six days after the injection. At a dosage of 1500 I.U. the pharmatestosterone level increases by 250-300% (2.5-3fold) com-pared to the initial value. The athlete should inject one HCG ampule every 5 days. Since the testosterone level remains considerably elevated for several days, it is unnecessary to inject HCG more than once every 5 days. The effective dosage for ath-letes is usually 2000-5000 I.U. per injection and should-as al-ready mentioned-be injected every 5 days. HCG should only be taken for a few weeks. If HCG is taken by male athletes over many weeks and in high dosages, it is possible that the testes will respond poorly to a later HCG intake and a release of the body's own LH. This could result in a permanent inadequate gonadal function.

HCG can in part cause side effects similar to those of injectable testosterone. A higher testosterone production also goes hand in hand with an elevated estrogen level which could result in gynecomastia. This could manifest itself in a temporary growth of breasts or reinforce already existing breast growth in men. Farsighted athletes thus combine HCG with an antiestrogen. Male athletes also report more frequent erections and an increased sexual desire. In high doses it can cause acne vulgaris and the storing of minerals and water. The last point must especially be observed since the water retention which is possible through the use of HCG could give the muscle system a puffy and watery appear-ance. Athletes who have already increased their endogenous test-osterone level by taking Clomid and intend subsequently to take HCG could experience considerable water retention and distinct feminization symptoms (gynecomastia, tendency toward fat de-posits on the hips). This is due to the fact that high testosterone leads to a high conversion rate to estrogens. In very young ath-letes HCG, like anabolic steroids, can cause an early stunting of growth since it prematurely closes the epiphysial growth plates. Mood swings and high blood pressure can also be attributed to the intake of HCG.

HCG's form of administration is also unusual. The substance choriongonadotropin is a white powdery freeze-dried substance which is usually used as a compress. Each package, for each HCG ampule, includes another ampule with an injection solution containing isotonic sodium chloride. This liq-uid, after both ampules have been opened in a sterile manner, is injected into the HCG ampule and mixed with the dried substance. The solution is then ready for use and should be injected intra-muscularly. If only part of the substance is injected the residual solution should be stored in the refrigerator. It is not necessary to store the unmixed HCG in the refrigerator; however, it should be kept out of light and below a temperature of 25* C.

[jamescb77]

Re: hcg question

fuzo maybe you can shed some more light on this for me in what you posted it says that you should take this 2000-5000iu at a time 5 days a part now everything else i read says to take 250-500iu's twice a week which do you think would be better? Also there is many posts that say not to use it for pct but what i just read says that it should be used for pct i tihnk im just a little jumbled on this since it's new to me

[FUZO]

Re: hcg question

I FOUND THATV ARTICLE SOME WHERE. WHAT I DO IS IF I'M RUNNING A CYCLE FOR SAY 12 WEEKS I TAKE 500IUS EVERY SAT SUNDAY THROUGHOUT THE CYCLE.SOME PEOPLE WILL TAKE 500IUS THE LAST 14 DAYS OF THERE CYCLE

[jamescb77]

Re: hcg question

so i have about 6 weeks or so left do you think this would benifit me to run this the last 5 weeks at 500iu sat and sun do you think this would benifit me and help me recover faster.

[Stout1]

Re: hcg question

I ran HCG last cyle about week 5-6 (cant remember) at 500iu's two times a week. HCG has about a 3 day half life so you want to shoot two times a week IMO. 500iu's should be more than enough, if your balls still don't drop or keep producing sperm then add another day of 500iu's instead of bumping up the dosage perday.

[bowbow]

Re: hcg question

ok im kinda new to hcg but im trying to learn it up here. so as far as ive read it helps to increase ball size or to keep your balls full. however it does not help natural test production. if it doesn't help you keep your natural test production what does it matter if your balls are big. small balls with no test production are the same as big balls with no test production there is still no test production. IM i right or wrong here? someone please shed me some light

Yes there is no test production even though you have used hcg and kept you balls big. The big difference is when you start your pct with full size testicle your natural test production will start up and get back to normal much faster than if you start pct with small testicles that first have regain there size before there going to produce full natural test production.
Quicker natural test production means more hard earned gains that will be kept.

[bowbow]

Re: hcg question

so i have about 6 weeks or so left do you think this would benifit me to run this the last 5 weeks at 500iu sat and sun do you think this would benifit me and help me recover faster.

Yes I think it would benifit you but I would do twice a week but on a Mon-Thur type schedule versus Sat and Sun.