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  • #46
    Re: SANDY HOOK EXPOSED

    Originally posted by baby1 View Post
    I have not sat and watched these and i probably will not. I do not imagine that I would find anything to laugh about either. Maybe, i should not give an opinion without viewing the videos? Regardless, I will not watch them and I will continue to believe this as a true tragedy and nothing more than that.

    Well if you havent watched them,then no offense you really cannot comment on it accurately.Not just watching one video of course can give you the most accurate account of this whole mess,but by watching many and listening to many interviews and statements and seeing the actual police footage can anyone get a true "idea" of what happened and is still happening.

    The only thing that seems to happen is when something extermely bad occurs,everyone just automatically thinks its too harsh to believe that anyone or anything could be a cause or motive for it to happen.Just as the war after 911 happened under the false pretense of weapons of mass destruction that were never found nor investigated as to why. Too many people died so it cant be that there were motives for this.Then you get all the nuts screaming "OH HERE GOES THE CONSIPRACY THEORY NUTS" So everyone starts to listen ,as always to this politically driven b/s about how consiparies theories are crazy and they always start to mention bigfoot or aliens or anything else that they think can duscredit anyone subscribing to these conspiracies.NO ONE WANTS OTHERS TO THINK THEY BELIEVE IN BIGFOOT so they are scared to speak up.

    Just because something is extremely tragic and over a broad scale does not mean there could be no-one behind it.Hasnt history already proven that the gov't will use its citizens as guinea pigs or scapegoats whenever they deem fit?? How many more time do people have to die in the name of "national security" for people to start to believe that ANYTHING is possible and EVERYTHING is at the least questionable?? Especially when so many red flags are thrown up????

    Years ago there was no media for people to record and post up videos as we have today so there were so many things that could go un-questioned due to "OUT OF SIGHT,OUT OF MIND" That is much harder to do today since everyone today is recording everything and posting up on websites.How many scandals have been exposed becase of this? Lots.Thats where the problem is.Just as its exteremely difficult for us to do something without being recorded today,as it is with the govt.

    I NEVER trust anyone.I never listen to ANYONE and take it as gospel.I dont care who it is.Until I gather as much information as possible on any given situation I do not follow what others have to say.I dnt care if they're the most accredited person in the world.People are people and are led by many different reasons so who's to say whats that persons are?

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    • #47
      Re: SANDY HOOK EXPOSED

      Originally posted by F.I.S.T. View Post

      I NEVER trust anyone.I never listen to ANYONE and take it as gospel.I dont care who it is.Until I gather as much information as possible on any given situation I do not follow what others have to say.I dnt care if they're the most accredited person in the world.People are people and are led by many different reasons so who's to say whats that persons are?
      And this is EXACTLY the way i feel as well. Honestly, sometimes I think the way things were years ago, was better than they are now.
      Veritas Vos Liberabit

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      • #48
        Is this the line for the kool-aid?

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        • #49
          Can I get a full explanation of exactly how we get from parents laughing to a massive conspiracy of a school shooting as a way to force gun control?

          I think there's some missing pieces there. Lol

          There's another conspiracy too:
          The laughing parents are actually the people who killed the kids and they are the owners of gun manufacturing companies, and they set Adam lanza up so they could kill a bunch of kids and watch their gun sales skyrocket.
          They then created a retarded you tube video w the intent of stirring up loony conspiracy theorists on online forums to throw investigators off.

          I think my conspiracy theory is way more believable. Who's w me?

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          • #50
            Re: SANDY HOOK EXPOSED

            Originally posted by exphys88 View Post
            Can I get a full explanation of exactly how we get from parents laughing to a massive conspiracy of a school shooting as a way to force gun control?

            I think there's some missing pieces there. Lol

            There's another conspiracy too:
            The laughing parents are actually the people who killed the kids and they are the owners of gun manufacturing companies, and they set Adam lanza up so they could kill a bunch of kids and watch their gun sales skyrocket.
            They then created a retarded you tube video w the intent of stirring up loony conspiracy theorists on online forums to throw investigators off.

            I think my conspiracy theory is way more believable. Who's w me?

            I dont know,I would have to see some study on those areas to better make an opinion on it.

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            • #51
              As if people who are so savvy to get away w such a massive conspiracy would mess up by letting their actors be filmed laughing.
              Are there no critical thinking skills anymore?

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              • #52
                Re: SANDY HOOK EXPOSED

                Originally posted by exphys88 View Post
                As if people who are so savvy to get away w such a massive conspiracy would mess up by letting their actors be filmed laughing.
                Are there no critical thinking skills anymore?

                It would appear not.Nor would it appear common sense thinking either.I guess the studies on common sense or individual thinking havent been published yet.Only things that people tell you are so.LOL

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by F.I.S.T. View Post
                  I dont know,I would have to see some study on those areas to better make an opinion on it.
                  I find it strange that someone like you will attack research and science in general when it contradicts your preconceived notions, yet when you find a scientific study supporting one of your views, you're quick to post it up here.

                  Just because you don't laugh during grief doesn't mean it's not a widely known effect of grief. You can deny it all you want, but you're wrong and it's irrelevant what you would do in such a situation.

                  It's not 1 study, it's well established and known by people w an education.

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                  • #54
                    Re: SANDY HOOK EXPOSED

                    Originally posted by exphys88 View Post
                    I find it strange that someone like you will attack research and science in general when it contradicts your preconceived notions, yet when you find a scientific study supporting one of your views, you're quick to post it up here.

                    Just because you don't laugh during grief doesn't mean it's not a widely known effect of grief. You can deny it all you want, but you're wrong and it's irrelevant what you would do in such a situation.

                    It's not 1 study, it's well established and known by people w an actual education.

                    I attack anoyne or anything that states such moronic things.When the scientist that conducted those studies has their child slaughtered and we see them laughing about it during the interview ABOUT IT then i'll more believe them.Until than its just another b/s study from some egghead that needs more REAL LIFE experience and less time with their noses in a book or sniffing lab beakers.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by F.I.S.T. View Post
                      I attack anoyne or anything that states such moronic things.When the scientist that conducted those studies has their child slaughtered and we see them laughing about it during the interview ABOUT IT then i'll more believe them.Until than its just another b/s study from some egghead that needs more REAL LIFE experience and less time with their noses in a book or sniffing lab beakers.
                      You do know that grief counselors, psychologists and psychiatrists actually work w people going thru grief, in real life right? They know that laughter is a coping mechanism for some.
                      How many people have you helped thru crisis, since your nose isn't in a book and you have so much experience and knowledge on the subject?

                      Again, make the connection for me-parents laughing to massive school shooting conspiracy. My conspiracy is way more plausible, just admit it.

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                      • #56
                        Re: SANDY HOOK EXPOSED

                        The second gunman on the grassy knoll used the ar15. DUH.

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                        • #57
                          Re: SANDY HOOK EXPOSED

                          Originally posted by exphys88 View Post
                          You do know that grief counselors, psychologists and psychiatrists actually work w people going thru grief, in real life right? They know that laughter is a coping mechanism for some.
                          How many people have you helped thru crisis, since your nose isn't in a book and you have so much experience and knowledge on the subject?

                          Again, make the connection for me-parents laughing to massive school shooting conspiracy. My conspiracy is way more plausible, just admit it.

                          When they show me some parents that just had their kids killed and are laughing while being interviewed about it ,the SAME DAY MIND YOU,i'll listen to them.Your connection between some egghead study on dealing with grief and having your kid slaughtered have no relvevance.You trying to agure the point has no meaning to the actual tragedy of what supposedly happened.You lack of dealing with common sense prevents you from understanding the difference.Come on admit it.LOL

                          As far as the laughing parents leading to a conspiracy,you're right it doesnt.That once again is where you lack of common sense thinking has failed you.An abundance of things that dont make sense lead to the SUSPICION of something wrong.The abundance of things that have been lied about (not mistaken for) leads to the suspicion.Thats why any intelligent person would want to further investigate it and try to prove or dis-prove what was and is being said on both sides.COMMON SENSE MAN.The foolish person takes what others say as golden and blindly follows without ever questioning.How many have followed what they were told was right without ever questioning it only to later come to the realiztion that it was wrong? Can we mention ******,Stalin,Hussein,a multitude of religous nuts out there that have an amazing following no matter how wrong and crazy they were? Just because someone tells you something doesnt make it so.The dark ages are over brother.There are no demons and ghouls any more,at least not of other worlds.The only demons are here on earth.

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                          • #58
                            Re: SANDY HOOK EXPOSED

                            Here's a great article on grief, loss and bereavement. The Author is a psychotherapist who specializes in working with bereaved parents.:

                            Grief Counseling: The Grief Process, Models of Grief, and Grief Therapy

                            Here is an excerpt:

                            "Grieving Thoughts and Behaviors

                            Thoughts during grief can vary from “there’s nothing I can do about it” to “it’s my fault, I could have done more” to “he had a good life” or “it wasn’t her time.” They can be troubling or soothing, and people in grief can bounce between different thoughts as they make sense of their loss. Grieving behaviors run from crying to laughter, sharing feelings to engaging silently in activities like cleaning, fixing, or exercising. They can involve being with others or by oneself.



                            The different feelings, thoughts, and behaviors people express during grief can be categorized into two main styles: instrumental and intuitive.

                            Instrumental grieving involves doing more physical things such as a hobby, playing, dancing, and working out.
                            Intuitive behaviors include sharing feelings, exploring the lost relationship, and considering mortality and meaning in life."

                            It seems that you, with no education in grief or counseling is disagreeing with people that are actually doing this for a living. IN REAL LIFE!
                            Last edited by exphys88; 01-27-2013, 09:12 PM.

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                            • #59
                              Re: SANDY HOOK EXPOSED

                              Originally posted by F.I.S.T. View Post
                              When they show me some parents that just had their kids killed and are laughing while being interviewed about it ,the SAME DAY MIND YOU,i'll listen to them.Your connection between some egghead study on dealing with grief and having your kid slaughtered have no relvevance.You trying to agure the point has no meaning to the actual tragedy of what supposedly happened.You lack of dealing with common sense prevents you from understanding the difference.Come on admit it.LOL

                              As far as the laughing parents leading to a conspiracy,you're right it doesnt.That once again is where you lack of common sense thinking has failed you.An abundance of things that dont make sense lead to the SUSPICION of something wrong.The abundance of things that have been lied about (not mistaken for) leads to the suspicion.Thats why any intelligent person would want to further investigate it and try to prove or dis-prove what was and is being said on both sides.COMMON SENSE MAN.The foolish person takes what others say as golden and blindly follows without ever questioning.How many have followed what they were told was right without ever questioning it only to later come to the realiztion that it was wrong? Can we mention ******,Stalin,Hussein,a multitude of religous nuts out there that have an amazing following no matter how wrong and crazy they were? Just because someone tells you something doesnt make it so.The dark ages are over brother.There are no demons and ghouls any more,at least not of other worlds.The only demons are here on earth.
                              So... you believe my conspiracy theory then? why else would they be laughing? they're laughing because they are now filthy rich because everyone is buying up all the guns. DON'T YOU SEE IT?

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                              • #60
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                                Thats a great study.Unfortunately it still has norevlevance on the situation.Grieving at any given time and how you do so has NOTHING to do with a parent that just lost their child THAT DAY and laughing.Your non-sensical ravings have no relvevance on the situation in question.

                                When you speak directly to people who have lost family or friends tragically at the time it happened,there is no laughing! I know you being a sceintist and all it may be hard to actually understand real life,but if you've ever been in these situations and have spoken to these people you will soon learn that what you leanred in class or in someone reports dont hold true to real life.

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