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  • #31
    Re: Werdum beats Fedor!!

    I dont think Fedor would beat 95% of the UFC HWs and LHWs. I could be dead wrong, and I dont dislike Fedor, I actually really like him and wish more guys had his character and discipline. Im just going off what I have seen, and yes I know its kind of stupid to say guys have weaknesses even though they never lose, but hell, what else would we have to talk about? Guys i could see beating him; Brock, Carwin, Anderson, Shogun, Machida, and tossups for Evans, Rampage, Mir, Liddel. Plus, others I dont feel like looking up really. I guess i just feel like losing a few times in the UFC is the same or even better in my eyes then going undefeated in other organizations sometimes.

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    • #32
      Re: Werdum beats Fedor!!

      Originally posted by Strella View Post
      I dont think Fedor would beat 95% of the UFC HWs and LHWs. I could be dead wrong, and I dont dislike Fedor, I actually really like him and wish more guys had his character and discipline. Im just going off what I have seen, and yes I know its kind of stupid to say guys have weaknesses even though they never lose, but hell, what else would we have to talk about? Guys i could see beating him; Brock, Carwin, Anderson, Shogun, Machida, and tossups for Evans, Rampage, Mir, Liddel. Plus, others I dont feel like looking up really. I guess i just feel like losing a few times in the UFC is the same or even better in my eyes then going undefeated in other organizations sometimes.
      I was being a little sarcastic.....just trying to get a rise out of Shiz. I don't think Fedor is the greatest fighter either, don't get me wrong. I have always thought he was a bit overrated when classified as the greatest HW fighter. But being unbeaten in any organization for 10 years is just unreal and deserves respect in my book. The guy is 230lbs at best and has never lost in a 265lb weight division. I mean he has beaten:

      Arona...who was tough back then
      Sobral...who is always dangerous
      Heath Herring....who is a tough guy to beat
      Nog....this was in his prime
      Coleman....who like it or not, was a beast back then
      Randleman...another beast from back in the day
      Nog...again...(actually 3 butt the other had an accidental headbutt)
      CroCop...another very tough opponent back then
      Coleman...again
      Hunt...a tough guy
      Lindland...was the world's number 1 MW at the time
      Arlovski...former UFC Champ
      Brett Rogers...supposedly the next big thing

      It's not like he was in a low level organization his entire career. He was in Pride for 4 years at least and this one was when the top guys were fighting in Pride. He had some straight up wars with Nog!! And these aren't to mention the hand full of Japananese fighters that he has beaten. I know many of these guys aren't top fighters NOW, but back then, these guys were part of the cream of the crop. Everyone knows that. It's like Liddell had all of these big wins to guys that aren't big names anymore....Fedor beat the same guys. Come on, the guy deserves credit. Everyone gets beat at one point or another. It's just the nature of the beast in MMA. Anything can happen at any time and we all know that.
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      • #33
        Re: Werdum beats Fedor!!

        Originally posted by tn94z View Post
        I was being a little sarcastic.....just trying to get a rise out of Shiz. I don't think Fedor is the greatest fighter either, don't get me wrong. I have always thought he was a bit overrated when classified as the greatest HW fighter. But being unbeaten in any organization for 10 years is just unreal and deserves respect in my book. The guy is 230lbs at best and has never lost in a 265lb weight division. I mean he has beaten:

        Arona...who was tough back then
        Sobral...who is always dangerous
        Heath Herring....who is a tough guy to beat
        Nog....this was in his prime
        Coleman....who like it or not, was a beast back then
        Randleman...another beast from back in the day
        Nog...again...(actually 3 butt the other had an accidental headbutt)
        CroCop...another very tough opponent back then
        Coleman...again
        Hunt...a tough guy
        Lindland...was the world's number 1 MW at the time
        Arlovski...former UFC Champ
        Brett Rogers...supposedly the next big thing
        You forgot Cro Cop and Sivia. Also, Fedor won the Pride King of Kings, back when pride was considered by many to have the best fighters in MMA.
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        • #34
          Re: Werdum beats Fedor!!

          I def agree with you, and think he will always be considered one of the best for sure. But i, like everyone else, would love to see some of the super fights that he could create. Esp Brock and Anderson. I would prob be more excited for those fights than any other fight ever, i just dont want him to lose his luster before anything like that could get set up.

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          • #35
            Re: Werdum beats Fedor!!

            HAS SOMEONE POSTED THE VIDEO?
            HERE IT IS IF THEY HAVENT

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8eLBXqoB90&feature=popular


            NOT MUCH OF A FIGHT
            ..“Your desire to change must be greater than your desire to stay the same.”





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            • #36
              Re: Werdum beats Fedor!!

              Originally posted by Strella View Post
              I def agree with you, and think he will always be considered one of the best for sure. But i, like everyone else, would love to see some of the super fights that he could create. Esp Brock and Anderson. I would prob be more excited for those fights than any other fight ever, i just dont want him to lose his luster before anything like that could get set up.
              Well, I don't think this fight made him lose any luster. I actually think it will be a weight off of his shoulders and will free him up to be even more aggressive. I would really like to see him come into the UFC. Regardless of what happens, I think he would really add some good fights to the organization.

              Originally posted by O2BESOHUGE View Post
              HAS SOMEONE POSTED THE VIDEO?
              HERE IT IS IF THEY HAVENT

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8eLBXqoB90&feature=popular


              NOT MUCH OF A FIGHT
              Yeah, it ended quickly. That is that most dangerous thing you can do on the ground is get into a scramble with a BJJ guy like that. Anything can happen. I think they will rematch pretty quickly.
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              • #37
                Re: Werdum beats Fedor!!

                Originally posted by tn94z View Post
                Stay on subject, huh? Who brought them up?



                Of course he said it, it's in quotes. I guess he just thought that most people would have enough sense understand it. He was wrong...

                You want to rant and rave about fedor but he said it was god this and that and you just cant grasp that. Fedor said it he meant it.Are you calling fedor a liar,did he lie in his reports that it wasnt god did he just make all that up because he lost
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                • #38
                  Re: Werdum beats Fedor!!

                  Originally posted by FUZO View Post
                  You want to rant and rave about fedor but he said it was god this and that and you just cant grasp that. Fedor said it he meant it.Are you calling fedor a liar,did he lie in his reports that it wasnt god did he just make all that up because he lost

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                  • #39
                    Re: Werdum beats Fedor!!

                    Originally posted by tn94z View Post
                    Have you ever prayed?

                    Again who cares if I pray or not. And yes I'm preety sure everyone prays to god to win fights but that doesnt mean he's gonna make fighters win or lose,Is that what you think its god the all mighty who makes fighters win or lose fights. This is where you just dont want to recognize facts that fedor said. Fedor said it was god that makes him win or lose fights, ok so what he's religious and I said its not god who makes a figthter win or lose a fight what part of that dont you understand about that. And I never said this will ruin fedors legacy,if fedors wants to be the all time best he needs to fight fighters in the ufc imo to be the all time best.
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                    • #40
                      Re: Werdum beats Fedor!!

                      Originally posted by FUZO View Post
                      Again who cares if I pray or not. And yes I'm preety sure everyone prays to god to win fights but that doesnt mean he's gonna make fighters win or lose,Is that what you think its god the all mighty who makes fighters win or lose fights. This is where you just dont want to recognize facts that fedor said. Fedor said it was god that makes him win or lose fights, ok so what he's religious and I said its not god who makes a figthter win or lose a fight what part of that dont you understand about that. And I never said this will ruin fedors legacy,if fedors wants to be the all time best he needs to fight fighters in the ufc imo to be the all time best.
                      There you go...if you pray then you must think that God has some kind of control over stuff.

                      Show me where Fedor said "God make me win or lose fight" You can't, because he didn't say that.

                      The legacy comment was pointed at someone else not you. On the flip side, the UFC fighters must fight everyone to be considered the best. So A+B=C means that no one in the world can ever be considered to be the best unless they have fight in every organization.

                      And it's funny that the only people that don't think that Fedor was the best HW during his career are Dana, Tito, and Brock. All three of these guys are completely full of themselves. Not very good company to be in. Brock probably thinks he is the best HW in the world....now that is a joke!!
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                      • #41
                        Re: Werdum beats Fedor!!

                        here is his exact words what part of that dont you understand.


                        If God decided it that way, that means that was the best way for this very time

                        And if it’s God’s will next fight, I’ll win
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                        • #42
                          Re: Werdum beats Fedor!!

                          If it weren't for God, none of these guys would be fighting in the first place. Many fighters say in their post fight interviews that none of the things they do would be possible without God. This is the same thing.

                          Anyway, I am not here to argue anyone's beliefs.
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