This fight will haunt chuck

[tn94z]

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I think that he will have a job with the UFC. I mean he was one of the main guys that got the UFC where it is today. When they needed a poster boy to step, he came on the scene and took over. He has proven everything he needs to prove. He should go out with his head held high man!

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classic chuck worship, seen it a million times. Usually easy to spot them in the mall with the mohawk and tapout t-shirts lol!

another guy who knows nothing about chuck or whats going through his head and doesnt want to accept that he has a problem when he fights.

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Chuck's situation is that he is old and and can't take the shots anymore. And if you can't grasp that, then you are in for a long haul in this sport. Randy gives these guys a false sense of hope because he started at a late age and did very well. He is one in a few that will ever be able to do that. That's why it's so phenomenal that he has done what he has done. Chuck had a good run but it's over. Rich fought Chuck half that round with a broken arm. He got up off the ground after Chuck took him down with a broken arm. And he proceeded to KO chuck (Out cold laying on the floor) with a broken arm. Rich just can't get any credit for anything he has done. He has only been beaten by the best guys in the world and he still gets no credit. He knocked out Chuck (the KO artist) and gets no credit. It's kind of ridiculous that he does what he does and people don't consider him to be a top guy.

But while Chuck was in the hospital post fight, Rich was accepting his winnings for the fight including an 85k KO of the night bonus.....with a broken arm

AND BY YOU SAYING CHUCK WAS IN THE HOSPITAL AND OUT COLD MEANS WHAT TO ME I DONT GIVE A SHIT.YOU ACTUALY WANT TO SAY RICH HAS FOUGHT ALL THESE GREAT FIGHTERS IN THE WORLD ARE YOU FUKN SERIOUS.I'll GIVE YA 3 IN HIS LAST SAY 15 FIGHTS,

DAN HENDERSON-WHICH RICH LOST
BELFORT-RICH LOST
SILVA-RICH LOST

AND THE OTHER 13 FIGHTERS HE FOUGHT ARE AVERAGE,MATT HAMILM,LUTTER,MCDONALT,QUARRY THOSE ARE JUST A FEW AVERAGE FIGHTERS I'LL POST BUT BY ALL MEANS GO LOOK UP RICH ON WIKIPEDIA AND TELL ME BESIDES THE 3 I SAID ARE GREAT FIGHTERS RICH FOUGHT AND YOU WANT PEOPLE TO GIVE RICH CREDIT. HE FOUGHT AVERAGE FIGHTERS IN HIS PRIME AND WHEN THE TOUGH ONES CAME HE LOST. OH AND WANDY SHOULD OF WON THAT FIGHT.BUT YOU THINK HE FOUGHT GREAT FIGHTERS. YOU NEED TO GO LOOK WHO RICH FOUGHT BACK IN HIS DAY.OH AND CHUCK BEAT RANDY 2X AND KNOCKED HIM OUT

[tn94z]

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AND BY YOU SAYING CHUCK WAS IN THE HOSPITAL AND OUT COLD MEANS WHAT TO ME I DONT GIVE A SHIT.YOU ACTUALY WANT TO SAY RICH HAS FOUGHT ALL THESE GREAT FIGHTERS IN THE WORLD ARE YOU FUKN SERIOUS.I'll GIVE YA 3 IN HIS LAST SAY 15 FIGHTS,

DAN HENDERSON-WHICH RICH LOST
BELFORT-RICH LOST
SILVA-RICH LOST

AND THE OTHER 13 FIGHTERS HE FOUGHT ARE AVERAGE,MATT HAMILM,LUTTER,MCDONALT,QUARRY THOSE ARE JUST A FEW AVERAGE FIGHTERS I'LL POST BUT BY ALL MEANS GO LOOK UP RICH ON WIKIPEDIA AND TELL ME BESIDES THE 3 I SAID ARE GREAT FIGHTERS RICH FOUGHT AND YOU WANT PEOPLE TO GIVE RICH CREDIT. HE FOUGHT AVERAGE FIGHTERS IN HIS PRIME AND WHEN THE TOUGH ONES CAME HE LOST. OH AND WANDY SHOULD OF WON THAT FIGHT.BUT YOU THINK HE FOUGHT GREAT FIGHTERS. YOU NEED TO GO LOOK WHO RICH FOUGHT BACK IN HIS DAY.OH AND CHUCK BEAT RANDY 2X AND KNOCKED HIM OUT

Okay, lets see here:

He KO'd Chuck Liddell (the guy you are saying is better)
Everyone knows that he beat Henderson (bad decision)
He beat Wandy (argued as the greatest LHW ever above Chuck)
He beat Hamill who was supposed to be the next big thing
Travis Lutter who has come closer than anyone at beating the P4P best
He beat Okami who is a very tough fighter
Jason McDonald was on the top of his game when Rich beat him
The Crowe who was also one of the best when he beat him
Quarry who is one of the toughest fighters to beat in the UFC
Tanner (twice) who once again was the champ when Rich beat him
Shamrock who is a hall of famer and was pretty good at that time
Rivera who is very dangerous and is still winning fights
Eastman who was another dangerous guy

The problem with your math is you don't seem to think about how dangerous these guys were "when" he fought them. Of course they aren't there today because the sport passed them by. The majority of Chuck's wins are not doing well today either.

They have both fought very tough guys and there is nothing anyone can say to dispute that. That is really common mma knowledge and its why Rich not getting respect has been argued before.

[tn94z]

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another guy who knows nothing about chuck or whats going through his head and doesnt want to accept that he has a problem when he fights.

Here is the problem with your statement, YOU don't even know what's going through Chuck's head right now. You don't know if he has problems or if he just can't hack it anymore. You are just speculating which amounts to nothing more than an excuse when you have no hard evidence to back it up.

The problem he has when he fights now is that he can't seem to win...that is a BIG problem.

[tn94z]

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And what does Chuck beating Randy have to do with anything?

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And what does Chuck beating Randy have to do with anything?

WHAT DOES BRINGING RANDY IN THIS POST HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING LIKE YOU DID,WHO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT RANDY YOU BROUGHT HIM INTO THIS THREAD

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Okay, lets see here:

He KO'd Chuck Liddell (the guy you are saying is better)
Everyone knows that he beat Henderson (bad decision)
He beat Wandy (argued as the greatest LHW ever above Chuck)
He beat Hamill who was supposed to be the next big thing
Travis Lutter who has come closer than anyone at beating the P4P best
He beat Okami who is a very tough fighter
Jason McDonald was on the top of his game when Rich beat him
The Crowe who was also one of the best when he beat him
Quarry who is one of the toughest fighters to beat in the UFC
Tanner (twice) who once again was the champ when Rich beat him
Shamrock who is a hall of famer and was pretty good at that time
Rivera who is very dangerous and is still winning fights
Eastman who was another dangerous guy

The problem with your math is you don't seem to think about how dangerous these guys were "when" he fought them. Of course they aren't there today because the sport passed them by. The majority of Chuck's wins are not doing well today either.

They have both fought very tough guys and there is nothing anyone can say to dispute that. That is really common mma knowledge and its why Rich not getting respect has been argued before.

YOU SAY COMMON KNOWLEDGE WHY RICH ISNT GETTING THE RESPECT ITS JUST THAT WHAT I POSTED HE DIDNT FIGHT ANYONE THAT GOOD EXCEPT A FEW 3 IN HIS CAREER.YOU HONESTLY WANT TO SAY LUTTER CAME CLOSE ON BEATING ANDERSON AND POST THAT WHEN HE WENT DOWN LIKE A TON OF BRICKS.AND THEN GASSED SO BAD WHEN HE FOUGHT RICH AND MATT HAMILL IN THE SAME SENTENCE AS RICH,LOL CMON DUDE.DANA KNOWS IT BUT HAS TO BE POLITICALY CORRECT AND WATCHES WHAT HE SAYS.NOW I KNOW WHERE YOU GOT YOUR REPLY FROM,DANA WHITE THOSE WERE HIS WORDS NOT YOURS.CHUCK AND DANA PROBABLY HAD A FINAL CONTRACT AND THATS WHY HE WONT FIGHT ANYMORE

[tn94z]

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WHAT DOES BRINGING RANDY IN THIS POST HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING LIKE YOU DID,WHO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT RANDY YOU BROUGHT HIM INTO THIS THREAD

I used him as an example of age...not of beating Chuck or Rich.

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YOU SAY COMMON KNOWLEDGE WHY RICH ISNT GETTING THE RESPECT ITS JUST THAT WHAT I POSTED HE DIDNT FIGHT ANYONE THAT GOOD EXCEPT A FEW 3 IN HIS CAREER.YOU HONESTLY WANT TO SAY LUTTER CAME CLOSE ON BEATING ANDERSON AND POST THAT WHEN HE WENT DOWN LIKE A TON OF BRICKS.AND THEN GASSED SO BAD WHEN HE FOUGHT RICH AND MATT HAMILL IN THE SAME SENTENCE AS RICH,LOL CMON DUDE.DANA KNOWS IT BUT HAS TO BE POLITICALY CORRECT AND WATCHES WHAT HE SAYS.NOW I KNOW WHERE YOU GOT YOUR REPLY FROM,DANA WHITE THOSE WERE HIS WORDS NOT YOURS.CHUCK AND DANA PROBABLY HAD A FINAL CONTRACT AND THATS WHY HE WONT FIGHT ANYMORE

My posts came far before I saw the video of Dana. I didn't say Lutter was close to beating Anderson....read it. You never seem to "read" what I say. I said that he came CLOSER to beating Anderson than anyone else has.


Chuck and Dana probably had a final contract.....PROBABLY....another speculation. Then why in the world was Chuck talking about getting his title back if that was going to be his last fight? You are grasping for straws now man. Grasping for straws.

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your boy rich will never be the man and get his respect because he really never fought any good fighters like other great previous champs thats a fact.I dont grasp at straws

Then why in the world was Chuck talking about getting his title back if that was going to be his last fight?

do you actualy read everything on these mma sites chuck has always said he wanted his title back always. Just like he always said in every fight he's going to knock you out which was his problem. If you really cant understand chuck and his mind set then you dont have a clue,chuck made mental mistakes this is psychology 101 basic shit to understand man but you cant see it. Rich will never be a chuck or as great as he was. Rich wont ever get the respect and why dont you ask yourself why.lets see what answer you come up with

I said that he came CLOSER to beating Anderson than anyone else has.

are you friggin serious who cares about close or closer man you said closer then anyone i said close big friggin deal

[tn94z]

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your boy rich will never be the man and get his respect because he really never fought any good fighters like other great previous champs thats a fact.I dont grasp at straws

He has already been the man and is working on it again. He has fought as many good fighters as 99% of the UFC. That is no argument. That is not a fact.

do you actualy read everything on these mma sites chuck has always said he wanted his title back always. Just like he always said in every fight he's going to knock you out which was his problem. If you really cant understand chuck and his mind set then you dont have a clue,chuck made mental mistakes this is psychology 101 basic shit to understand man but you cant see it. Rich will never be a chuck or as great as he was. Rich wont ever get the respect and why dont you ask yourself why.lets see what answer you come up with

Do you actually think he would come back for one fight and then quit if he won? That is pretty naive man. Rich has already had it. After he lost to Anderson, he fell down and is trying to work his way back up. That is why everyone who has a clue about MMA, knows that he is underrated.

are you friggin serious who cares about close or closer man you said closer then anyone i said close big friggin deal

Those are two totally different words that have two totally different meanings used in that context. That's why it matters.

[tn94z]

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Look at who Rich's losses are. They are champions with the exception of Vitor Belfort. Now look at who Chuck has lost to....Jardine....HAHA!!! Jardine...you don't even have to go any further than that.


While I know that Chuck is one of the greatest LHWs ever....I gave this comparison for Rich's sake.

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Rich was looking directly at Chuck's chin when he hit him. As you can see, Rich didn't even get the full power because Chuck partially blocked it or pushed Rich at the same time.

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Rich was looking directly at Chuck's chin when he hit him. As you can see, Rich didn't even get the full power because Chuck partially blocked it or pushed Rich at the same time.

YOU ARE BLIND CHUCK WAS FALLING FOWARD AFTER THAT LONG PUNCH HE THREW. CHUCK ACTULAY WALKED INTO THE PUNCH WHILE FALLING FOWARD. NOW KEEP REVIEWING THE MOVIE BECAUSE I'M RIGHT. CHUCK WAS FALLING FOWARD AND TRIED TO BLOCK IT BECAUSE HE SAW IT COMING. AND WHO GIVES A FUK ABOUT JARDINE IF YOUR TRYING TO RUB ME THE WRONG WAY BAD IDEA. IF YOU WANT TO GO ON STATS ON WHO ACCOMPLISHED WHAT IN THE UFC BRING IT BECAUSE CHUCK MADE THE UFC AND DID A WHOLE LOT MORE NOT RICH.AND HOLDS ALOT MORE RECORDS THEN RICH