For a 4th round pick. Damn! I wish the Eagles would have picked him up. I would have given a 3rd rounder for him.
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“I don't look ahead... I keep focused on my next opponent. I am looking forward to my next opponent, I don't think past that point.”
--Manny Pacquiao
Big Mike's speach to Congress telling them to phuque off on the steroid ban:
http://www.moviewavs.com/0049230534/...y/statemnt.mp3

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Yep, a guy like Moss will demand more honesty from the defense which will open HUGE holes for Maroney to run all over the field. I would bet the acquisition of Moss gives Maroney a 1,500 yard season. Defenses will have to be very concerned about Stallworth, Moss, Watson Washington and Caldwell. That's four good receivers and a good TE. They could run the spread offense all year and just mess people up. Four WR's on the field each play with Brady and Maroney in the back field. Teams will have to play them with a nickle or cover 3 all the time. No team has enough shut down players to keep those four receivers down. And, even though Washington is a back up, make no mistake, that dude is a good receiver. I wouldn't doubt with the focus on Moss and Stallworth that he doesn't make himself known in a big way this year.Originally posted by mpresiv View PostThat's some good news for the patriots. With their defense and moss added to their already good offense they should be great
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Yo T-dog,
I`m with ya on the teams having to use nickle and cover two but... That depends on what type of season moss is gonna have. If you play fantasy football, then you`re famillar with the fact that brady`s never lights up one reciever for big reception numbers. I`ve seen brady have a 300 yd passing day but no reciever has more than 50 yards - 7 different players with receptions, etc. I actually think that strategy is why Brady is so good but...
Moss is a super-ball hog, cry baby, attention *****... and that is not what the patriots are all about at all.
So I think it`ll come down one of two ways:
1. The first big problem he has or creates Moss holds a press conference, blaming racism and the coaches bias against people who are named for small cute green plants that grow on trees. And moss gets benched, end of story.
2. This could be just the discpline that the still young reciever needs. Moss graciously accepts his 800 yard season in exchange for helping the RB, TE go for over 1000 each and the team goes deep into the playoffs. Moss finds his groove with Brady and becomes the comback story of the year and possible superbowl linchpin player getting lit up for 170 yards in the big one... maybe.
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I agree! I think this organization is just what he will need to mature. The Vikings didn't make him mature, the best thing he had there was Chris Carter and when he retired, Moss went down hill. That's where the guys like Stallworth come in. Washington is a very talented and I think it will bring him back to the old days when he wasn't the only star. Let's face it, he was the best WR in Oakland so that's what defenses focused on. In NE, he will be wide open some plays and so will the other guys. Also, his performance in Oakland was the result of a losing team. It doesn't matter how good you are, when you lose that bad, it takes something out of you. I'm not a fan of Moss because of some of his behavior but I would like to see the man grow up and become a mature super star. With the core of WR's and they way Brady spreads the ball around, he's going to find himself on the end of some deep passes. He will be the best deep threat they have. So, IMO, even if they only get him 4-5 passes, he's got a good chance to rack up 80 to 100 yards because 1 or even 2 of those passes should be break away TD's. And they will more than likely be set up with play action right after some huge run by one of the RB's. The only way I see a team shutting him down is one with a Deangelo Hall, Champ Bailey or one of those types of CB's. So, who going to keep up with everyone else? So, palying Ne this year is going to be a totaly chess match. Teams are going to have to try and predict when the want to go deep, show deep coverage to make Brady take the underneath man and hope your OLB's are fast enough to drop back and make a play on the ball. It's going to be a good year for NE I think. Moss knows he won't have to carry the team, just like when he was with the Vikings. Between him, Carter and the RB (I think it was Smith) they were a powerful threat. Well, now they have that same trio PLUS a good TE and another two really good WR's. This is why I think Washington is going to have his break out year because that's the guy who will fly under the radar at first. Then, once he and Brady establish that connection, it's up to Brady to know which one of those guys will be open.
I hope Moss can grow up, there's nothing worse than a fantastic God given talent ruined by arrogance and immaturity. And, Dillon was a little bit a problem child when he went there so they know how to deal with that. This will bea good thing for Moss IMO. It will be a bad thing for the rest of the AFC.
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Cut the guy a little slack. You haven't heard a peep out of him the past 2 years in Oakland. And they were the laughing stock of the NFL. I really honestly thing Moss showed great maturity by not coming out and begging to be released from the pathetic team. He's learned to tone it down, which I think will help him greatly in his Negotiations with the Patriots.Originally posted by superdog View PostYo T-dog,
Moss is a super-ball hog, cry baby, attention *****... and that is not what the patriots are all about at all.
So I think it`ll come down one of two ways:
1. The first big problem he has or creates Moss holds a press conference, blaming racism and the coaches bias against people who are named for small cute green plants that grow on trees. And moss gets benched, end of story.
2. This could be just the discpline that the still young reciever needs. Moss graciously accepts his 800 yard season in exchange for helping the RB, TE go for over 1000 each and the team goes deep into the playoffs. Moss finds his groove with Brady and becomes the comback story of the year and possible superbowl linchpin player getting lit up for 170 yards in the big one... maybe.“I don't look ahead... I keep focused on my next opponent. I am looking forward to my next opponent, I don't think past that point.”
--Manny Pacquiao
Big Mike's speach to Congress telling them to phuque off on the steroid ban:
http://www.moviewavs.com/0049230534/...y/statemnt.mp3

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A 4th round pick this year. I still think it was a bad move on the Raiders part.Originally posted by 6p6 View Postwas the Raider's fourth round for this year or next?“I don't look ahead... I keep focused on my next opponent. I am looking forward to my next opponent, I don't think past that point.”
--Manny Pacquiao
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http://www.moviewavs.com/0049230534/...y/statemnt.mp3

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I agree, it was a very bad move. They finally get a QB and they let one of the best deep threat's in the NFL go, what were they thinking? You know, if the Raiders were smart, they would have came after Schaub and gave ATL the number one pick, which I'm sure they would have taken for Schaub. Then, they could have used the #10 pick that ATL had (prior to moving up from Houston) to add another good receiver. Then let Schaub light people up with Moss and whoever else. In stead, they take a QB and let go of their best WR. They accomplished nothing IMO. They will suck about as bad as they did this year. They might win 5 games, but probably not more than that. They have Denver and San Diego to play twice, so that's probably four loses right there.Originally posted by angryoldman View PostA 4th round pick this year. I still think it was a bad move on the Raiders part.
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The Raiders HAD TO get rid of Randy Moss. Moss had made his mind up that Oakland was not a fit for him and he was requesting (HEAVILY) a trade to a contender. They are trying to rebuild the team in Oakland and Randy is not the kind of guy that they needed in the clubhouse poisoning everyone's mind. They need all of their players on board. With Randy there they couldn't have that. The fourth round pick wasn't the best that they could have done, and I don't know the particulars, but I am betting that Moss had some kind of "no trade" agreement in his contract that would have made it very difficult to trade him to a team willing to give up a first day pick to get him. I'm sure that Randy said that he would go quietly into the night if the team was the Pats and the Pats and Oakland could only agree on a fourth round pick. But, its all history now...we will see what the next chapter brings!
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I agree with you 100%...we will see how it washes out...Originally posted by GBAGH View PostThe Raiders HAD TO get rid of Randy Moss. Moss had made his mind up that Oakland was not a fit for him and he was requesting (HEAVILY) a trade to a contender. They are trying to rebuild the team in Oakland and Randy is not the kind of guy that they needed in the clubhouse poisoning everyone's mind. They need all of their players on board. With Randy there they couldn't have that. The fourth round pick wasn't the best that they could have done, and I don't know the particulars, but I am betting that Moss had some kind of "no trade" agreement in his contract that would have made it very difficult to trade him to a team willing to give up a first day pick to get him. I'm sure that Randy said that he would go quietly into the night if the team was the Pats and the Pats and Oakland could only agree on a fourth round pick. But, its all history now...we will see what the next chapter brings!
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Moss agreed to terms and is ready to go“I don't look ahead... I keep focused on my next opponent. I am looking forward to my next opponent, I don't think past that point.”
--Manny Pacquiao
Big Mike's speach to Congress telling them to phuque off on the steroid ban:
http://www.moviewavs.com/0049230534/...y/statemnt.mp3

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