Seaweed Detox bath

[jipped genes]

Re: Seaweed Detox bath

jipped i am going to have to dig up the article and video but their are two docs i am pretty sure one is a power lifter and the other a bber or they are both one or the other. anyway they did a huge study and they point out that regular sauna use does in fact rid the body of many toxins. i will try to find it today but i just read and watched the vid a couple weeks ago

yeah i am sure you excrete stuff but its not going to clean your kidneys or liver. getting rid of salt may help both to do their jobs better (as we eat way too much salt) and people just think that because their organs are doing better they sweat out the toxins from said organs.

there is no method to get toxins from one's organs straight to the skin. i agree sweating is good for you.

[guns01]

Re: Seaweed Detox bath

yeah i am sure you excrete stuff but its not going to clean your kidneys or liver. getting rid of salt may help both to do their jobs better (as we eat way too much salt) and people just think that because their organs are doing better they sweat out the toxins from said organs.

there is no method to get toxins from one's organs straight to the skin. i agree sweating is good for you.

here is one of the articles i was talking about. i am still digging for the others with videos:



Most of you reading this probably live in a modernized world, filled with the stimuli of cutting-edge technology and lifestyle-related stress that you’ve adapted to, but might leave humans of centuries past paralyzed with panic. On the other hand, conveniences like air conditioning, running water and electricity ease our day-to-day stress. These contemporary luxuries come with a price. Modern industry has filled our environment, repeatedly, with a plethora of toxic substances. Rather than provide you with a technology-based resolution to this issue (perpetuating the pattern), I’d like to present a more “natural” (and even pleasurable!) option. It’s a way of cleansing the body that has been embraced in Scandinavia for hundreds of years(1). It is nothing more complex than using the sauna. In particular – the Finnish way of sauna bathing.

The Finn’s have a saying: “If the sauna, schnapps or tar doesn’t help, the illness is fatal(2).” I’ll not be discussing tar, and certainly don’t suggest combining schnapps with sauna bathing (alcohol and heat stress mix like oil and water(3)). However, there is actually scientific evidence supporting the overwhelming opinion in Finland that sauna bathing has health benefits: Finland is populated with 1 sauna for every 5 people(2).
Toxins, Toxins Everywhere…

I don’t want depress you just after introducing the notion of feel-good saunas, but bear with me here. Toxins of the man-made variety are everywhere, it seems. Even the supplements you consume may be laden with designer steroids and various steroid residues(4-6). Up to 15% of non-hormonal supplements may actually contain hormones(4, 5), whereas the vast majority of OTC steroidal supplements do not match label claims (typically because they are underdosed)(6). Good old creatine may even be tainted with toxins, including mercury(7). Natural health products (herbal remedies and other preparations) can also be laden with heavy metals many times above what are considered safe daily limits(8).

Unfortunately, it sometimes takes a while before we decipher the adverse effects of certain chemical compounds. (For centuries, alcohol and tobacco were largely considered only beneficial, but, as it turned out, can be a bit more “problematic”(9).) It’s been estimated that tens of thousands of synthetic chemicals have been released into the environment in the past 60 years(10), many much less publicized than arsenic that has recently been found in rice(11) or the aluminum in your deodorant(12). Here are just a few I picked out to heighten your awareness. (You might consider this my version of a scare tactic.)
Declining Toxin Levels?

Lead levels are on the decline (since banned from gasoline and cans), but the highest levels of this toxic heavy metal are found in young males(13). Levels of cadmium [an industrial, toxic, heavy metal(14)]are also declining in the U.S. population(15), but cadmium’s residence in soil means it accumulates in vegetables and grains(16, 17) (as well as tobacco(18)). A diet high in these healthy foods is also potentially high in cadmium(19). Eating “organic” does not seem to solve the problem of heavy metal intake, either(20).

Then we’ve got these “less than nifty” polychlorinated compounds like perchlorinated biphenyls (PCBs), carcinogenic compounds used in coolants, oils, etc. Despite a manufacture ban in 1979, PCBs persist environmentally because they are very stable chemically speaking(21).
Safe at Home?

So, maybe you’re thinking about staying home, to minimize exposure. Good ploy, but that won’t work when it comes to volatile organic compounds (VOCs – from paints, cleaning supplies, building materials). VOC exposure is likely several fold higher when you’re inside (your home or work) versus when outdoors(22). (As an aside, one of few things that truly distracts me in the gym is overly liberal use of cleaning solutions in my immediate proximity if I’m lucky enough to be training during gym cleaning. Intuition alone forces me to find another area of the gym to train in.)
Water Water Everywhere…

Watch what you drink, as well: Pharmaceuticals such as antidepressants and antihistamines and personal care products like cosmetics and fragrances are a concern of the EPA(23). They’ve found that, while you’d likely not be eating these fish, these chemicals amass themselves in the fillets (muscle) and livers (of course) of fish captured in potentially contaminated water supplies(24).

It gets better. Perchlorate [found in rocketfuels and explosives (like fireworks)]is a compound that suppresses the thyroid by inhibiting iodine uptake. Perchlorate also makes its way into our drinking water(25). The half life of this chemical gem is only 8hr(26), but it was found in every single one of 2800+ samples tested in a 2002 study(27). This suggests that pretty much all of us are continuously consuming this toxin in very small amounts(28). Although the data are not entirely clear, there is some possibility that even this low level perchlorate exposure may be inhibiting thyroid function, particularly in women(28).

If you men were feeling left out, we’ve got phthalates, which are found in plastics (to make them softer) and pose immediate danger to children (from chewing on toys)(29). However, this endocrine disrupter, primarily an anti-androgen (yikes!), is also pervasive in pesticides, cosmetics, food and even dust(30). Other actions (via perioxisome proliferator activated receptors-PPARs)(30) may explain the link between phthalate exposure, waist girth, insulin resistance and overweight(31, 32). Thank you sir, may I have another…?
And Then There’s Bug Spray

Speaking of, I guess I should mention pesticides, too. It’s thought that environmental factors account for about 75% of all cancers(33) and that chronic (known or unknown) environmental and occupational pesticide exposure is the direct cause of some cancers, and a wide array of adverse neurological conditions(e.g., impaired cognitive function, risk for Parkinson’s disease and dementia, etc.)(20). The EPA openly admits that “by their very nature, most pesticides create some risk of harm(34),” and the endocrine-disruption actions of pesticides in particular has renewed scientific concern about human exposure(35).

Although it might be re-assuring to think so(36), there is unfortunately little evidence that we can count on lower pesticide levels in organic food(20, 37). In fact mycotoxin (toxic fungal metabolite) levels may be higher in the organic versus conventionally grown versions of basic staples like apples(38) and oats(36).
Woe is the Fat Cell

Generally speaking, we should be aware that lipophilic (fat soluble) drugs and chemicals can remain in the body for prolonged periods(39). If you read my article, “Fat Cell on a Soapbox,” you can understand how adipose tissue’s endocrine and immunomodulatory roles could very well be disrupted if your adipocytes are loaded with toxins. Indeed, it’s been suggested that drug metabolites may be to blame for abnormal leptin, adiponectin and resistin (adipose-derived hormone) levels in recreational drug users(39).
Enter the Sauna (Repeatedly)

So, can we somehow make use of the body’s own processes to diminish our toxin load? Or do we need to “fight fire with fire” and employ a chemical approach to deal with a chemical problem? I think the former, natural route has promise: Enter the sauna.

A Finnish (steam) sauna can run anywhere between 70-100˚C, with the air humidified by pouring water over heated rocks. Typically one might spend 5-20 min in the sauna followed by “cold” immersion (a simple swim or shower) and repeat this process 2-3 times followed resting recovery at room temperature(1). Dry heat saunas also exist, often using infrared and far infrared heat lamps, are not quite as hot, and are devoid of steam(1).

In case you’re wondering, the cooling off between trips to the sauna is a way to reduce the thermal stress (while still getting a good sweat going) and avoid an increase in cortisol levels(40). If the cooling period is too cold (e.g., an ice bath), this may actually raise cortisol(40, 41). Rule of thumb – if it feels good, do it.
Sweat it Out (Really…?)

It’s probably not a mystery to you that chemical residues are recoverable in the sweat of recreational drug users(42, 43). The Finns have known that sweating is an effective means for purifying the body for centuries. More recently, scientists have started documenting toxin excretion via sweating, as well as its clinical impact. Heavy metal toxins like cadmium ((44); see above) and antimony [a metalloid with toxicity similar to arsenic(45) are actually preferentially lost in the sweat. In fact, especially after acute exposure, lead(46), mercury, and arsenic itself are concentrated in sweat compared to blood plasma(44). These toxic metals and others (bismuth and tin) may not even be detectable in blood serum – defying a typical toxicology screening – but released in significant amounts when one’s sweating(10). Bisphenol A (an estrogenic, endocrine-disrupting compound found in plastics) may also not be detectable in the blood, but released in the sweat, especially in those suffering from fatigue, depression and psychological disorders(47). In a sense, sweating is a way of clearing toxic metals that might otherwise be invisible to medical science.

After only a month (range: 2-7 weeks) of a sauna-based program (including exercise and nutritional vitamin mineral supplementation – things you reading this are also likely doing), police officers suffering from adverse occupational exposure (not overt drug use) to methamphetamine and related compound enjoy significantly greater health and well-being. The sauna treatments reduced pain, improved social functioning and subjective better energy levels and reduced day to day fatigue(48). This detox system (called the “Hubbard” system(39, 49)) has also been shown to reduce blood levels of PCB’s and other chlorinated toxins(50, 51). Only two to three weeks of Hubbard sauna treatments improved cognitive functioning in firefighters after a massive acute PCB exposure in a burning fire(52), even though PCB’s may not be preferentially released in sweat(53).
It’s Not All About the Toxins

I’m liking these Finns more and more. Sauna bathing also has a number of health benefits beyond what you might expect from simply “detoxing.” The Hubbard system (see above) has proven immunoenhancing in Chernobyl survivors(39, 54) and able to reduce the incidence of the common cold by 50% after just three months (two saunas / week)(55) (although this effect was not seen in preschoolers(56)).

Sauna “treatments” have improved the lipid profiles of women(57) and recreational drug users(49), and reduced pain in fibromyalgia sufferers(58). As you might expect, sauna heat increases connective tissue pliability and synovial fliud viscosity, at least temporarily(59), but a hot bath (whirlpool) might be a better choice if you’re trying to limit post-exercise muscle soreness(60).

Sauna heat also activates the sympathetic nervous system(40, 61), as does exercise(62)), and likewise reduces anxiety afterwards(63), just like a good battle with the weights will do(64)). The beta-endorphin release of a sauna can also have a nice mood-elevating effect(58). Once again – if it feels good.
Start Finnish…?

…but just take it slow. As with most anything that is pleasurable, you’ll find reports of humans overdoing it. The sauna is no exception(65). In particular, those with pre-existing heart disease or who were using alcohol or recreational drugs have fatally succumb to heat stress after or while using a sauna, hot tub or jacuzzi(3). As when embarking on a new exercise regimen, a doctor’s approval may be warranted, so please be cautious if you decide to start sauna bathing. However, the research suggests no extraordinary risk for those using medications or with heart disease with reasonable sauna use (temperatures between 70-90˚C, <20min sessions). An increased risk (again check with your doctor first) may exist for those taking blood pressure medications, i.e., by increasing the risk of fainting and/or becoming light-headed or dizzy(58).

Disclaimers and warnings aside, it seems that modest, regular use of a Finnish sauna bathing may be an age-old way of doing “modern maintenance” on your body. If you’re Mountaindog training or deep in the rigors of a highly challenging training program, judicious (we’ll call it hedonistically instinctive) use of the sauna may make more sense than creating marathon sessions at the gym by tacking on sauna bathing after you’ve just had a long workout. (Chances are, you’ve already done a good bit of sweating in the gym anyway). I’d love to hear your feedback, good or bad, if you decide to add sauna bathing to your bodybuilding regimen. Who knows? Mountaindog training and diet is always evolving, and coincidentally, there are some pretty impressive mountains in Finland.
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[horse]

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when i ask about sauna's being good for the organs i just meant if you sweat them out (toxins) maybe the liver and kidneys did not have to deal with it

[BABY1]

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when i ask about sauna's being good for the organs i just meant if you sweat them out (toxins) maybe the liver and kidneys did not have to deal with it

Yes it is another great way to rid the body of crap. Do it horse, it has great benefits. I have some asian friends that swear by both and you know what, their culture is quite interesting to me and they are some of the healthiest peeps I know. Go steam and sauna like a horse

[jipped genes]

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great article. i would like to know the mechanism of which the heavy metals are moved out of the body through the pores with sweat.

i am not as skeptical anymore as i can see toxins like heavy metals that are either mobilized in the blood from the heat being excreted with the salt.

hey sweating is good and dammit i love changing my outlook on a subject but back to the original topic.

i still do not think a sea weed will help "pull" more toxins out of one's body than a hot bath alone

[BABY1]

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Seaweed helps stimulate our lymphatic system, which carries toxins. Seaweed also is high in iodine and Vit K. Now like anything, moderaiton is key. Wouldn't soak in one of these baths on a regular basis but DAMN I sure need one now... LOL!

[BABY1]

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"Brown seaweed varieties have a high concentration of iodine, which facilitates detoxification, stimulates metabolism and boosts thyroid gland activity. The high vitamin K content in seaweed boosts adrenal gland activity to balance stress and reproductive hormone levels

If anyone is interested, this is the one I use

http://www.100percentpure.com/products/seaweed-detox-bath

[BABY1]

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my secret Asian Man say "it"s vewy good for you"

[jipped genes]

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my secret Asian Man say "it"s vewy good for you"

HAHA that would not fly on TV today. remember the commercial for laundry where the asian says "ancient chinese secret" man that is hilarious

[BABY1]

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HAHA that would not fly on TV today. remember the commercial for laundry where the asian says "ancient chinese secret" man that is hilarious

lol, I say that , often, in our house and my daughter thinks I am nuts,lol