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  • #46
    Re: Legal marijuanas biggest foe

    Originally posted by FUZO View Post
    even if its healthy you still get stoned and all motor skills are off and that can lead to injury and death
    Exactly!!! We are talking about the responsible use, NOT THE ABUSE OF MARIJUANA..just like the liquor companies ads that say "Drink Responsibly"...Motor skills can get messed up by taking benadryl, cough syrup, allergy pills, nyquil, Budweiser,etc...

    Much of the republicans unpopular positions on medical marijuana have to do with their campaign funding. Just look where a lot of republicans get their big bucks from and a good amount is coming from the pharmaceutical and prison industries, both of which have a lot to lose if progress in marijuana policy reform is made. Isnt that scary? That prison Industry lobbyists want to keep things like marijuana and steroids CRIMINALIZED so they can make more money! Disgusting!!!!!

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    • #47
      Re: Legal marijuanas biggest foe

      Originally posted by FUZO View Post
      so when your stoned and driving could it be possible you can fall asleep while stoned,yes there is a possibilty, can you get injured at work while high or stoned yes thats a possibility,if your a airline pilot and stoned can you crash a plane-yes thats a possibility,can you drive a car stone and kill someone-yea thats a possibilty. Pot makes you relaxed and sleepy. It sure doesnt make you alert and ready to go.So theres some negatives . In this day and age it wont become legal because things like this stuff will happen. Parents will drive high,parents will smoke in front of the infants and children,those are facts.If marijuana was legal when beer became legal back then we wouldnt be talking about this but since its 2010 it can never happen.One time someone dies from pot and it will happen thats all it takes. One bad apple to spoil the bunch. alcohol kills,prescription medicine kills, otc medicine kills,pot will kill and thats the point. why put something else in this world that can lead to the death of someone else.And like I said there have been teenagers stoned not drunk that have killed other people in driving accidents.So will it make money sure but would you rather have money or your mother or father,sister,brother dead from someone smoking pot if it became legal. I rest my case. No one here would take money over a close loved family member.] Marijauna will kill

      no one SHOULD tell any parent how to raise there kid but if your smoking around my kid because your stoned and forgot that my kid is at your house while your smoking I will tell you to go fuk your self because I dont want my kid around it.Has anyone said how bad it would be for a new born to get high,nope no one.How do we know if a new born is at your house and you spark up while its just a infant that this baby wont have some problems in life. We dont so thats another reason why it shouldnt be legal. 9-10 people smpoke pot to get high and stoned to feel good not for medical reasons. And when your brain is not in its right state of form something can happen.I rest my case again. Oh wait 1 puff will lead to 2 puffs then it will lead to a full joint,then it will lead to a PIPE,then it will lead to a bong,then a graphics then you will want it laced with something to get that high feeling.
      Nobody has ever died from smoking is my point. And you're seriously going to use the gateway drug theory? My parents smoke the stuff everyday as we speak and they've never touched another drug nor do they drink but on rare occasions. And again you continue to use the argument that what if someone smokes near a baby. If they do it's called bad parenting! People smoke cigarettes around their kids all the time! The bottom line is this. Just because it's legal doesn't mean a ton of people are going to start smoking it. A small percentage may, but it's going to primarily be those people that already smoke, and if they already do it then they're either doing it in front of their kids or they're not. It doesn't matter if it's legal or not, people still smoke it. And the only negatives you've given are silly possibilities. If we live our lives that way I could tell you to never cross a street because you could possibly get hit by a car, and that's more likely than any of the other scenarios you laid out. Don't drive because you could possibly get into an accident. Don't lay in the bathtub because you could possibly fall asleep and drown. I mean seriously. Like dave said, replace everything you said with alcohol and it would sound like the 20's all over again. Yeah, people smoke to relax and feel good. Some people are given xanax and paxil to do the same thing and people die from those just by taking the stuff. It's like saying that anybody that does anything that alters your brain is a risk. Well, let's ban caffeine while we're at it. Or our pre workout supps. I get relaxed and fall asleep when I eat too much turkey on Thanksgiving, maybe we should ban Thanksgiving, or turkey all together. My parents have smoked for as long as I can remember and they've never killed anybody. As a matter of fact my mother refuses to drive after she's smoked. Those people that you think would become a liability already ARE a liability because they're already doing everything you said they might if it were legal. Again, there are far more pros than there are cons, and that is scientifically and mathematically proven. It's the aura of fear that has embedded itself in our society that keeps it illegal along with special interests that would lose out if it were legalized. Damn, I started this earlier and had to come back to it and forgot what I was talking about. Oh well.

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      • #48
        Re: Legal marijuanas biggest foe

        Come on Fuzo, theres no pride lost in changing your stance on an issue like this. After youve carefully reviewed the facts regarding decriminalizing marijuana, its ok for you to change your mind. We wont give you a hard time about it...LOL

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        • #49
          Re: Legal marijuanas biggest foe

          I remember what I was doing now. Here, check out the stats between the US and the Netherlands. Look at the illicit drugs as well.

          Find out how United States ranks internationally on Crime. Get the facts and compare to other countries!


          Find out how Netherlands ranks internationally on Crime. Get the facts and compare to other countries!


          After that just look around a bit. It's a really cool site to get a perspective on things.

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          • #50
            Re: Legal marijuanas biggest foe

            Originally posted by Dzone View Post
            Come on Fuzo, theres no pride lost in changing your stance on an issue like this. After youve carefully reviewed the facts regarding decriminalizing marijuana, its ok for you to change your mind. We wont give you a hard time about it...LOL

            Its wrong to smoke it and it wont be legalized and it can lead to death no matter how you look at it. And people abuse marijuana. And stray why does your mother not drive after she smokes
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            • #51
              Re: Legal marijuanas biggest foe

              Heres something I just learned that gives us hope about republicans: It was republicans who voted to legalize marijuana under an ounce in colorado

              "For some reason most Republicans are opposed to marijuana. They also want to raid medical marijuana dispenseries and patients homes in California even though the state says its okay. Conservatives and republicans seem to want less federal government intervening with the states and less government interfering in our personal lives. Spending so much time and money ruining peoples lives over a harmless plant doesnt seem to be in line with that view." Whats up with that?

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              • #52
                Re: Legal marijuanas biggest foe

                Originally posted by FUZO View Post
                Its wrong to smoke it and it wont be legalized and it can lead to death no matter how you look at it
                Fuzo, your view on marijuana is the EXACT view that most people have about personal use of AAS.

                You say its wrong to smoke it. Ok, do you think its wrong to drink jack daniels, too?

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                • #53
                  Re: Legal marijuanas biggest foe

                  Originally posted by FUZO View Post
                  Its wrong to smoke it and it wont be legalized and it can lead to death no matter how you look at it
                  Who says it's wrong to smoke it? And it will be legalized in our lifetime, maybe not everywhere, but some states. I would still like to know how it's more dangerous than legal drugs. I still haven't heard it yet.
                  Leading causes of death in the US.

                  Just sayin'

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                  • #54
                    Re: Legal marijuanas biggest foe

                    Originally posted by Dzone View Post
                    Fuzo, your view on marijuana is the EXACT view that most people have about personal use of AAS.

                    You say its wrong to smoke it. Ok, do you think its wrong to drink jack daniels, too?

                    alcohol is legal and marijuana isnt.
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                    • #55
                      Re: Legal marijuanas biggest foe

                      Originally posted by straydoglogic View Post
                      Who says it's wrong to smoke it? And it will be legalized in our lifetime, maybe not everywhere, but some states. I would still like to know how it's more dangerous than legal drugs. I still haven't heard it yet.
                      Leading causes of death in the US.

                      Just sayin'

                      THE GOV SAYS ITS WRONG AND ALOT OF OTHER PEOPLE SAY ITS WRONG. AND AS FAR AS HEALTH WISE A PERSON WHO HAS SMOKED IT CONSTANTLY HAVE NO CARDIO FOR LUNGS ITS JUST LIKE SMOKING CIGARETTES. .NOT EVERYONE WILL AGREE THAT ITS OK TO SMOKE POT. AND THERE ARE COPS THAT ALSO DONT WANT PEOPLE TO SMOKE IT.
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                      • #56
                        Re: Legal marijuanas biggest foe

                        IF THIS KEEPS GOING BACK AND FORTH I'LL CLOSE THE THREAD ITS BEEN WORN OUT AS IT IS
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                        • #57
                          Re: Legal marijuanas biggest foe

                          Originally posted by FUZO View Post
                          alcohol is legal and marijuana isnt.
                          AAS isnt legal

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                          • #58
                            Re: Legal marijuanas biggest foe

                            Originally posted by Dzone View Post
                            AAS isnt legal

                            IT IS LEGAL WITH A SCRIPT I'M ON IT.
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                            • #59
                              Re: Legal marijuanas biggest foe

                              I have mixed feelings about this subject. I can see both points, having it be legal, illegal, its uses, abuses, misuses, medical treatments used for, as well as some of the problems that might arise in society by is legalization, as well as the problems is already causes being illegal with its importantion etc...

                              I was offered this medical treatment while I was going thru chemo and recovering, but never had the script filed. I have seen first hand the problems its illegal importing causes, there have been many times that local drops have been made on my farm borders, my foreman has ran across these folks, with ozzies, all kinds of guns, he was told to mind his biz and be on his way, which he did~ Heck who would mess with people with huge guns and threats to use them~!!?

                              I'm not really against its legalization, IMO I don't think it will be abused any more than anything that our society currently abuses presently. If its something that alters your mood, or gives you the slightest stimulation, or claiming effects, I assure you people are, were and will find ways to abuse it.
                              Its the world we live in.



                              Stay STrong~~!!!
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                              • #60
                                Re: Legal marijuanas biggest foe

                                If its something that alters your mood, or gives you the slightest stimulation, or claiming effects, I assure you people are, were and will find ways to abuse it.
                                Its the world we live in.

                                EXACTLY
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