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  • #76
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    ok...damn scientist, lol. why cant they define "physicly addictive" as clear as the NFL defined "possession of the football"
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    • #77
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      You can be physicaly addicted to marijauna and you will need more of the same thing because your body builds a tolerance and here ya go dave with the negatives of mirajuana there was more but I stopped
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      • #78
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        You think there is an obesity problem now? Wait and see what happens when everyone is sittin on the couch all day eating cheetos and peanut butter crunch lol. I think the worst thing about pot is how it kills most peoples motivation. I have a couple friends who are potheads and they don't care to ever make anything out of themselves.
        They call you paranoid until the worst happens, and in the aftermath they will call you a hero.

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        • #79
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          Long-term effects of cannabis




          Though the long-term effects of cannabis have been studied, there remains much to be concluded. In particular, the drug's addictiveness, its potential as a "gateway drug", its effects on intelligence and memory, and its contributions to mental disorders such as schizophrenia and depression are heatedly debated topics.


          has been shown that administration of high doses of THC to animals lowers serum testosterone levels, impairs sperm production, motility, and viability, disrupts the ovulation cycle, and decreases output of gonadotropic hormones According to the 1997 Merck Manual of Diagnosis and Therapy, fertility effects related to cannabis use are uncertain.




          Some studies have found that children of tobacco and marijuana-smoking mothers more frequently suffer from permanent cognitive deficits, concentration disorders, hyperactivity, and impaired social interactions than non-exposed children of the same age and social background.[13][14] A recent study, with participation of scientists from Europe and the United States, has now identified that naturally occurring endocannabinoid molecules play a role in establishing how certain nerve cells connect to each other in the fetal brain.[15][16][17] Another study examining cannabinoid receptor proteins (CBRs) expressed in brain cells of mice determined that endogenous endocannabinoids assist in directing brain cell directional development while in the womb.[18] The researchers suggest that elevated blood THC levels due to cannabis consumption would affect brain development of human fetuses. In contrast, other studies in Jamaica have suggested that cannabis use by expectant mothers does not appear to cause birth defects or developmental delays in their newborn children.[11][12]


          Despite cannabis being the most widely used illicit drug in the Western world,[19] controlled trials for cannabis use disorder have only been reported in literature in the last 15 years. Research has shown a substantial percentage of cannabis users develop cannabis-related problems, including dependency[20][21]. Overall, the addiction potential for cannabis is significantly less than that for tobacco, alcohol, cocaine or heroin, but slightly higher than that for psilocybin, mescaline, or LSD.[22][23]


          At one time cannabis was considered a drug that had no withdrawal symptoms because users did not display symptoms similar to those withdrawing from alcohol or opiates. Contrary to this, experimental research supports reports of users who relate evidence of heavy cannabis use producing psychological and physical withdrawal symptoms
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          • #80
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            Respiratory disease
            Main article: cannabis-associated respiratory disease
            Cannabis-associated respiratory disease can refer to neoplastic processes or to structural damage to the lung.
            It is often compared to the damage done by tobacco, but this is the subject of much less study. Cannabis is sometimes considered more dangerous because filters are usually not used, but more often research shows that it isn't because different molecules are involved making it less dangerous.
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            • #81
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              Psychosis
              A large, unselected population-based study, published in British Journal of Psychiatry (2008), examined cannabis use and prodromal symptoms of psychosis at age 15–16 years and concluded that cannabis use was associated with prodromal symptoms of psychosis in adolescence.[41]
              The direction of causation was more directly examined in a study by Dr. Mikkel Arendt of Aarhus University in Risskov, Denmark, and colleagues, which found that individuals treated for psychotic episodes following cannabis use had the same likelihood of having a mother, sister or other "first-degree" relative with schizophrenia as did the individuals who had actually been treated for schizophrenia themselves. This suggests that the psychosis blamed on cannabis use is in fact the result of a genetic predisposition towards schizophrenia. "These people would have developed schizophrenia whether or not they used cannabis"[42]
              In a recent study at the Institute of Psychiatry at King's College London, scientists have confirmed a link between potent cannabis use ("skunk" cannabis, which accounts for 80 per cent of street seizures of the drug in the UK[43]) and transient psychotic symptoms in healthy people. After testing 22 healthy males in their late 20s by injecting them with THC, with a control dummy injection administered to a percentage of the sample group, a link was found between the chemical and psychosis, "in which hallucinations leave sufferers unable to know what is real and what is imagined". Dr Paul Morrison, who lead the team, concluded, "these findings confirm that THC can induce a transient acute psychological reaction in psychiatrically well individuals"[43]. In addition, it was found that the extent of the psychotic reaction was not related to "the degree of anxiety or cognitive impairment" in the sample group. Further research is needed into the chemical makeup of skunk cannabis as it is believed stronger strains have virtually no traces of CBD (cannabidiol), which appears to counteract the damaging effects of THC.[43] However, there is likely to be wide variation in the THC and CBD levels (and ratios) since numerous (perhaps even hundreds) of different strains of cannabis have been marketed by dealers as "skunk", some of which are descended from the original 1980s Amsterdam variety.
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              • #82
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                There is some evidence that cannabis may compromise female fertility with a modest association reported between cannabis use and infertility in Mueller et al.'s case controlled study of 150 women with primary anovulatory infertility. While Wenger et al indicate evidence that THC and anandamide increase the duration of pregnancy and increase the frequency of stillbirth in rats. In a report prepared for the Australian National Council on Drugs, Copeland, Gerber and Swift conclude that current understanding suggests cannabis-related substances are contraindicated in pregnancy, as are compounds that interact with endocannabinoid synthesis and metabolism.

                1989 study of 1226 mothers published in the New England Journal of Medicine concluded that "the use of marijuana or cocaine during pregnancy is associated with impaired fetal growth Compared to fetal alcohol syndrome, similar types of facial features and related symptoms are not associated with prenatal marijuana exposure THC passes into the breast milk and might affect a breastfed infant
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                • #83
                  Re: Legal marijuanas biggest foe

                  republicans take another step to legalize pot




                  yea...bad idea to use pot or cocain during pregnancy...dont drink or smoke either!!!
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                  • #84
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                    Originally posted by daved150 View Post
                    republicans take another step to legalize pot




                    yea...bad idea to use pot or cocain during pregnancy...dont drink or smoke either!!!
                    This article is not in favor of the legalization of marijuana, it is in favor of changing the punishment of possession for under an ounce.
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                    • #85
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                      Originally posted by baby1 View Post
                      This article is not in favor of the legalization of marijuana, it is in favor of changing the punishment of possession for under an ounce.
                      it is a STEP in the right direction baby1. lesson the punishments today, legalize small personal amount tomarrow. as a process of change, you have to take steps, and this is another step. i'm sorry...but i would perfer our prison hold harder criminals!!!
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                      • #86
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                        legalize small personal amount tomarrow
                        Dave you cant because of what all I said if you get high your at risk at kiling someone just like all the other stuff out there that is legal and why make something legal that will cause death,whether its health or accident. Alcohol causes enough deaths with drinking and driving would you want your son high because they made it legal and he wasnt responcible enough to watch how much he smoked then got in his car for cigarettes and dozed off and killed someone. Can't anyone see the bigger picture or is it everyone just wants to get stoned to feel better and not in a medical way
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                        • #87
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                          I had a plethora of knowledge on the effects of marijuana when I wrote a report on it in high school. Lots of research went into that report. I was very interested in that project. Beig so long ago, of course I've forgotten alot of the pros, but I remember the con.

                          Fact 1. Marijuana is an ally to the cardio system. Clinical tests have shown that usage cleans the artery walls of plaque build-up.

                          Fact 2. Remember the saying about carrots? Well marijuana really does help you see better, as well as help your eyes overall with increased blood flow to the cornea, lens, etc.

                          Fact 3 Marijuana usage has never been proven to result in tar build-up in the lungs, or to cause any lung damage what-so-ever. *I know. That just desn't make sense. You're inhaling something other than oxygen. Our lungs are there to intake and supply oxygen to the body. Well, the lungs obviously are there to supply the body of whatever they receive, wheather good or bad. THC has proven non-toxic to the lungs. People find this fact difficult to believe because they want to connect pot inhalation with cigarettes, which the 2 are not related nor are the side effects of cigs even relative to the side effects, or lack-of, with marijuana inhalation and absorption.

                          Fact 4. Clinical studies have proven marijuana to relieve females from suffering severe premenstrual cycle symptoms.

                          5. Marijuana relieves severe Multiple Schlerosis symptoms.

                          Getting into the medical usage of THC is a list of pros that is far too long to list, and the toxic meds in which it replaces is almost myriad. This is of such importance that it does nothing short of disgusting me that people could vote it down when they learn of this fact. Especially having to watch someone close to me suffer from a disease in which this simple legalization would be complete relief. As opposed to the expensive, toxic, and almost useless at times, handful of medications that person must take to function day-to-day.

                          Now for the cons. It was believed for years that THC killed brain cells as other drugs do. Nothing can compete with alcohol in this category, but they thought marijuana did kill brain cells. This was proven incorrect. Marijuana does not harm 1 brain cell. Marijuana can numb brain cells. These "numb" brain cells return to normal functionality upon abstinence.(Once the buzz wears off.)

                          Back to politics. Are we all sure that we want our true state of a Republic back? Cause in The Republic state that created us so great, this wouldn't even be a discussion, as it is complete dictation over the individual's freedom. Now law dictates this decision for people instead of the Founding Father's Republican government system which defended people's right to decide wheather something so simple as marijuana is good or bad for their situation, whatever it be.

                          Funny thing. My daughter is watchng "The Princess and the Frog". The male frog that's a prince was just talking about having everything done for him when he lived in his castle. All his choices made for him down to his clothes. Then when his parents cut him off. He realized that he knows nothing.
                          That's what happens when you take away people's right to make decisions. They never learn how important it is to make informed decisions. And if, or when, that important decision is thrown in front of them, by chance of course. People make un-informed decisions.

                          Cheeseburgers are bad for you too. The guy that ate a Big-Mac meal 3 times a day for 30 days, and made a documentary about it, stated that he suffered from physical withdrawals after making the doc. (headaches, pains) He said that he could smell the sauce they use on Big Macs right when he walks into McDonalds now. Over everything.

                          There has been talk of regulating the food industry. Criminalizing certain foods. This ideology is not Republican by a long shot. This is absolutely a leftist ideology. If someone agrees with the state having the say-so over the individual when it comes to decisions pertaining only to the individual. That is some Chavez ideology. I solemnly disagree with this ideology, and hold very dear our original state that led to th greatest country of all time. Our Founders referred to the liberties of man as "God given rights." The criminalization of such things as inanimate objects, or "God given rights" is absolutely against republicanism.

                          There is left and right. Left is completely against a true Republic. Right is for a true Republic. There is no compromise. The compromise is called progressive. Progressive politics is what has lead to our current state.
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                          • #88
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                            What confuses me is that most of the people on this site believe AAS should be legal, but many of them do not believe marijuana should be. The same arguments are used by those against AAS, and what do we all say? Most of us condemn their findings and suggest that if used properly AAS are not harmful, and perhaps even healthy. We also say that the media and medical doctors don't know what they are talking about, and that we are the experts. Yet, those same people may dislike pot, and claim to be experts even though they don't even use it. They will gladly list all of the harmful effects that they have read from the same type of expert sources that tell us AAS are harmful to our health and cause hostility and mood swings. Then we have alcohol which is perfectly acceptable even though there is no debate as to whether it is healthy or not. Alcohol results in drunk drivers, drunks causing domestic abuse, drunks starting fights, often it is a gateway to other drugs, it can cause liver disease, brain damage, it's addictive, etc. Yet, it is perfectly acceptable. In the end, there is no convincing people against marijuana to change their position, it just simply will never happen no matter what the facts prove or disprove. And here I am standing up for it and I don't even use it nor would I ever even if it were legal. I just stand up for individualism and detest collectivism. That's all it really comes down to in the end, collectivism vs individualism. But I think it is unfortunate that those who prefer alcohol as their party drug or social enjoyment are perfectly fine to do so, but those who do not like alcohol, and instead prefer pot, do not have the right. For what it's worth, I would rather be stuck in a room with a group of people high on pot than a group of drunks any day. I would feel much safer for sure. I can't recall ever seeing potheads getting in fight, but every night at the clubs there are plenty of drunks getting in fights. The hippies sit at home laughing at movies and eating munchies, while the drunks are out raising cane in the bars and clubs.
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                            • #89
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                              Originally posted by horsepwr View Post
                              I had a plethora of knowledge on the effects of marijuana when I wrote a report on it in high school. Lots of research went into that report. I was very interested in that project. Beig so long ago, of course I've forgotten alot of the pros, but I remember the con.

                              Fact 1. Marijuana is an ally to the cardio system. Clinical tests have shown that usage cleans the artery walls of plaque build-up.

                              Fact 2. Remember the saying about carrots? Well marijuana really does help you see better, as well as help your eyes overall with increased blood flow to the cornea, lens, etc.

                              Fact 3 Marijuana usage has never been proven to result in tar build-up in the lungs, or to cause any lung damage what-so-ever. *I know. That just desn't make sense. You're inhaling something other than oxygen. Our lungs are there to intake and supply oxygen to the body. Well, the lungs obviously are there to supply the body of whatever they receive, wheather good or bad. THC has proven non-toxic to the lungs. People find this fact difficult to believe because they want to connect pot inhalation with cigarettes, which the 2 are not related nor are the side effects of cigs even relative to the side effects, or lack-of, with marijuana inhalation and absorption.

                              Fact 4. Clinical studies have proven marijuana to relieve females from suffering severe premenstrual cycle symptoms.

                              5. Marijuana relieves severe Multiple Schlerosis symptoms.

                              Getting into the medical usage of THC is a list of pros that is far too long to list, and the toxic meds in which it replaces is almost myriad. This is of such importance that it does nothing short of disgusting me that people could vote it down when they learn of this fact. Especially having to watch someone close to me suffer from a disease in which this simple legalization would be complete relief. As opposed to the expensive, toxic, and almost useless at times, handful of medications that person must take to function day-to-day.

                              Now for the cons. It was believed for years that THC killed brain cells as other drugs do. Nothing can compete with alcohol in this category, but they thought marijuana did kill brain cells. This was proven incorrect. Marijuana does not harm 1 brain cell. Marijuana can numb brain cells. These "numb" brain cells return to normal functionality upon abstinence.(Once the buzz wears off.)

                              Back to politics. Are we all sure that we want our true state of a Republic back? Cause in The Republic state that created us so great, this wouldn't even be a discussion, as it is complete dictation over the individual's freedom. Now law dictates this decision for people instead of the Founding Father's Republican government system which defended people's right to decide wheather something so simple as marijuana is good or bad for their situation, whatever it be.

                              Funny thing. My daughter is watchng "The Princess and the Frog". The male frog that's a prince was just talking about having everything done for him when he lived in his castle. All his choices made for him down to his clothes. Then when his parents cut him off. He realized that he knows nothing.
                              That's what happens when you take away people's right to make decisions. They never learn how important it is to make informed decisions. And if, or when, that important decision is thrown in front of them, by chance of course. People make un-informed decisions.

                              Cheeseburgers are bad for you too. The guy that ate a Big-Mac meal 3 times a day for 30 days, and made a documentary about it, stated that he suffered from physical withdrawals after making the doc. (headaches, pains) He said that he could smell the sauce they use on Big Macs right when he walks into McDonalds now. Over everything.

                              There has been talk of regulating the food industry. Criminalizing certain foods. This ideology is not Republican by a long shot. This is absolutely a leftist ideology. If someone agrees with the state having the say-so over the individual when it comes to decisions pertaining only to the individual. That is some Chavez ideology. I solemnly disagree with this ideology, and hold very dear our original state that led to th greatest country of all time. Our Founders referred to the liberties of man as "God given rights." The criminalization of such things as inanimate objects, or "God given rights" is absolutely against republicanism.

                              There is left and right. Left is completely against a true Republic. Right is for a true Republic. There is no compromise. The compromise is called progressive. Progressive politics is what has lead to our current state.
                              Great post horsepwr. You are siding with a core libertarian view point here, which is that we are born having ownership of our body as property, and in that sense, we should be able to do whatever we like with our body. It is not the state's right to tell us what we can or cannot do with our own body or property so long as we don't intervene on other individuals property. The very reason that I am a libertarian is because I believe in individualism and condemn collectivism. Thus, I support maximum liberty and a free market system with only minimum government intervention for protection of our national security, to handle civil and criminal matters, and to provide our infrastructure (though I believe the private sector could handle this one more efficiently). Upon supporting the libertarian ideology, I find it impossible to agree with the Republicans or Democrats on every matter, because both parties have proven they favor larger government intervention in our lives.
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                              • #90
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                                Originally posted by JsJs24 View Post
                                Great post horsepwr. You are siding with a core libertarian view point here, which is that we are born having ownership of our body as property, and in that sense, we should be able to do whatever we like with our body. It is not the state's right to tell us what we can or cannot do with our own body or property so long as we don't intervene on other individuals property. The very reason that I am a libertarian is because I believe in individualism and condemn collectivism. Thus, I support maximum liberty and a free market system with only minimum government intervention for protection of our national security, to handle civil and criminal matters, and to provide our infrastructure (though I believe the private sector could handle this one more efficiently). Upon supporting the libertarian ideology, I find it impossible to agree with the Republicans or Democrats on every matter, because both parties have proven they favor larger government intervention in our lives.
                                Thanks for reading. It's just such a simple thing to me if you're a true individualist, constitutionalist, republican and/or libertarian, or just plain American, for that matter. You could apply this argument to anything that people disagree with. Motorcycles. Bright colors...it literally is right in line with North Korea's lil Kim.lol...Hugo Chavez, etc... I'm holding onto a true Republican view.
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