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  • #46
    Re: A Great Step for Our Country

    Originally posted by snickers1 View Post
    well said..... now just wait a few minutes and someone will pipe in with a quote on a bunch of stuff on a certain candidates policies and why if he gets elected there will be big government and the economy will go to hell in a hand basket...
    So your saying that you believe big government can produce economic growth?

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    • #47
      Re: A Great Step for Our Country

      Originally posted by Klash View Post
      So your saying that you believe big government can produce economic growth?
      i dunno do you see where i said that? look at my original post and tell me how it has to do with anything in what this topic has turned into?... don't get me wrong i think it has spiked a decent discussion, but yet again it turned in to a Obama trashing thread... bottom line is tomorrow night the topic in this section with be thank god he didn't win and all the McCain supporters can say see we where right and bla bla or if Obama wins they will all call BS and say it was fraud.
      Don't worry about life, you're not going to survive it anyway.






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      • #48
        Re: A Great Step for Our Country

        FRAUD IS RIGHT. ACORN IS EVIDENCE OF THAT. OBAMA IS CONNECTED WITH ACORN HE DONATED $800,000 DOLLARS AND ACORN HAS ALREADY COMMITED FRAUD OVER 15 STATES.
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        • #49
          Re: A Great Step for Our Country

          Originally posted by snickers1 View Post
          i dunno do you see where i said that? look at my original post and tell me how it has to do with anything in what this topic has turned into?... don't get me wrong i think it has spiked a decent discussion, but yet again it turned in to a Obama trashing thread... bottom line is tomorrow night the topic in this section with be thank god he didn't win and all the McCain supporters can say see we where right and bla bla or if Obama wins they will all call BS and say it was fraud.
          Yeah it seems that is what you are implying; that's why I was asking for a confirmation.

          Obama supporters have no supportive arguments for what they are doing; so in return they give those who oppose Obama, because of legitimate concerns, nothing to specifically counter. Obama is dogma; he is like a religion and his followers can't be persuaded or offer supportive arguments because they have renounced logic and are following him on faith. It is frustrating for those of us who will not do that.

          Tomorrow after the election,Obama supporters will do the same thing. If you remember Gore supporters, from 2000, are still claiming fraud.

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          • #50
            Re: A Great Step for Our Country

            klash,

            we just see things differently

            big is not bad

            stupid is stupid though, and that has been the government

            i want smart

            imho, the solutions to the problems are fairly simple, if they would just do them

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            • #51
              Re: A Great Step for Our Country

              stupid is stupid though, and that has been the government
              CORRECT THE DEMOCRATIC CONTROLLED GOVERNMENT
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              • #52
                Re: A Great Step for Our Country

                Originally posted by trip View Post
                klash,

                we just see things differently

                big is not bad

                stupid is stupid though, and that has been the government

                i want smart

                imho, the solutions to the problems are fairly simple, if they would just do them
                Big is not bad? What keeps big government in check? The "living Constitution?" "The common good" "the greater good" "human rights" "too big to fail" "the unfortunate" Who defines these things? The same people that created big government? The same people who say "terrorists" have no right to habeas corpus. Who defines terrorist? Western Countries are getting so naive. They have perpetuated the idea that democracies are synonymous with freedom and people are buying into it.

                Do you agree with the premise that government is a monopoly on brute force?
                Do you agree with the premise that the only power government has is defining who the criminals are and what their punishment should be?

                If you do not agree, I will be glad to argue these points. (To save me some time, when you think you have thought of something think back of how it was first initiated.)

                Now your a psychologist, you know that people do what they perceive is in their best interest, even government employees. If a government agency has a budget of $1,000,000 everyone knows they will find a way to spend it; if they don't their budget will be more likely to be cut in the future. Maybe they hire two more employees that they really don't need to help sit around, eat and get fat.

                So, tell me how big is not counter-productive.

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                • #53
                  Re: A Great Step for Our Country

                  gosh, i guess the whole world sucks

                  the world get's bigger everyday, it's called progress

                  more people, inventions etc.

                  big is not bad, stupid is stupid, dumb is dumb, i want smart


                  brute, smute,

                  i'm dealing with reality, we have major domo problems, i want a smart guy at the helm, not erratic folks

                  on a scale from 1-10 our problems our a 9

                  we just nationalized all the banks

                  we're thinking in two different worlds

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                  • #54
                    Re: A Great Step for Our Country

                    Originally posted by trip View Post
                    gosh, i guess the whole world sucks

                    the world get's bigger everyday, it's called progress

                    more people, inventions etc.

                    big is not bad, stupid is stupid, dumb is dumb, i want smart


                    brute, smute,

                    i'm dealing with reality, we have major domo problems, i want a smart guy at the helm, not erratic folks

                    on a scale from 1-10 our problems our a 9

                    we just nationalized all the banks

                    we're thinking in two different worlds
                    See Snickers, this is a perfect example of Obama dogma. There is no rational justification for trips support of Obama, just a bunch of dodging questions, ignoring questions and overstating the obvious. This is very frustrating to those of us that use, even just a little bit of rational thinking to form our beliefs.

                    Trip, how do you define smart? Does your standard of evaluating smart even consist of being logical or is it something else, because I'd really like to know. To me, smart guys are consistent; they use consistent standards to apply problems to and consistently inconsistent doesn't count. So how do you define smart? Looks pretty, can deliver a well teleprompted speech? I mean seriously you want a smart guy at the helm. How do you define smart? Because wanting a smart guy at the helm and supporting Obama seem like a contradiction to me and I would just love to see an Obamite give a logical argument as to why Obama deserves anyone's support.

                    Of course you can't answer this; if you could I'd already know the answer...

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