Mandatory vaccinations? Is this Communist china?

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Looks like I'd be going to jail.

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So we are going to trust the GOVERNMENT to make sure they arent going to inject us with something secret? Sorry Joe mamas mama, but blind faith like you have in the government will get people killed...ever heard of the tuskegee experiment? You dont think our government would use humans for an experiment? Think again...

Using Human Beings as Laboratory Animals
The true nature of the experiment had to be kept from the subjects to ensure their cooperation. The sharecroppers' grossly disadvantaged lot in life made them easy to manipulate. Pleased at the prospect of free medical care —almost none of them had ever seen a doctor before— these unsophisticated and trusting men became the pawns in what James Jones, author of the excellent history on the subject, Bad Blood, identified as “the longest non-therapeutic experiment on human beings in medical history.”

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Has anyone followed the money on these mandatory flu shots and other mandated vaccinations???? Who are the pharmaceutical lobbyists pushing for govt mandated use of their products????FOLLOW THE MONEY PEOPLE!!!!!FOLLOW THE MONEY!!!!SOMEONE IS GETTING FILTY RICH BY HAVING VACCINATIONS REQUIRED BY LAW!!!!!WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Klash]

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Like the mark of the beast?? Your kidding right? Sit down and relax. It's a flu shot dude and if you had kids and you withheld it from them your crazy.

The flu shot is essintial for anyone with a weakened immune system ie the eldery, pediatric, cardiac health issues and such. People who work in the health industry it's required for. The military requires all soldiers to get it.

Illnesses like the flu causes millions of dollars a year in time loss from work, medicine and doctor visits not to mention deaths caused from it.

Your kid doesn't get the shot, gets other kids sick and so on and so on.

Are you not gonna get your daughter the new HPV virus that can stop or decrease uterian cancer?

You act like they are requiring you to donate a kidney or something.

LOL, I don't vaccinate my kids and I love these arguments that your endangering others by not getting vaccinated. If vaccinations work, not getting them would only be risky to those who didn't get them. If they don't work, why are you getting them in the first place and if they only work part of the time - why is it worth risking the side effects of toxicity for a maybe.

This is the problem with America. People that are in agreement with the justification for a policy [e.g. people that think vaccinations are good] don't recognize the fact that forcing people to do what you think is a good thing IS STILL FORCING PEOPLE TO DO WHAT THEY DON'T WANT!!!!

Politicians have been intertwining justifications and policies for so long, many people can't tell the freaking difference between the policy (forcing people to do something) and the justification (why a certain act is a good thing).

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I DONT EVEN GET MY DOGS VACCINATED...Look that one up....look and see how many dogs/cats have had legs amputated from vaccinations... introducing disease into a small body, when a small body should be building up its immune system naturally, is counterintuitive.

[straydoglogic]

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i will be forced next week to have a flu mist..im completely against it but would be kicked out if i didnt have it done...crrraazy...

[T-Man007]

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My wife says there are placed in CO that make you do it and so she checks some box that says for religious beliefs that she will not get the vaccines. Because of religious rights, my son is in school and they have to allow him. The only thing is they say if there is some kind of break out that we might have to pull him. Who cares! We have friends who took their youngest for a shot once and he now has autism. I've known this kid since he was born and he was completely normal and then all of a sudden it's like he regressed years. He lost words that he could speak easily and he goes into these tantrums that he never did before. If he wanted something, he used to ask for it.....now he just points. They are spending a fortune now because he is in behavioral and speech therapy. However, he was completely normal before the shot. The drug company denies any possible link even though ALL his medical records prove the changes took place right after the shot.

Vaccines are fuked up! Do you guys have any idea the crap they put in those things to prolong the shelf life? Mercury is one of them. Oh, but don't worry, for some reason our FDA is convinced that children are some how immune to this thing that is dangerous to us adults. Fuking FDA! They are more crooked that the Mafia. At least the Mafia has enough honor to tell you they are going to fuk you.

[Joe Mamas Mama]

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So we are going to trust the GOVERNMENT to make sure they arent going to inject us with something secret? Sorry Joe mamas mama, but blind faith like you have in the government will get people killed...ever heard of the tuskegee experiment? You dont think our government would use humans for an experiment? Think again...

Let me guess, you saw the movie right?
You obviously don't know me because I have little faith much less blind faith in our Federal goverment on BIG things.

As a history buff I'm sure I know more than most on our history. Tuskeegee happened from 1930's till as late as the early 1970's to poor uneducated black men, in Backwoods Alabama that no one would ever hear about/care about outside of thier community at a time when being black you had damn near no rights. in Backwoods Alabama.

Times have changed just a bit since then don't you think??
With all the tree huggin liberals and attorneys waiting to jump on some of that big money class action suits, its HIGHLY unlikely that they are going to be secretly injecting us with something.
Maybe some GPS tracking device maybe??
If thats your thought, i'd surely home school my kids move up into the mountains and get away from soceity. There could be secret experiments being done to your kids at school when your not watching them.
Sorry for being synical, but I think a few are taking this just a bit too far.

[Joe Mamas Mama]

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Has anyone followed the money on these mandatory flu shots and other mandated vaccinations???? Who are the pharmaceutical lobbyists pushing for govt mandated use of their products????FOLLOW THE MONEY PEOPLE!!!!!FOLLOW THE MONEY!!!!SOMEONE IS GETTING FILTY RICH BY HAVING VACCINATIONS REQUIRED BY LAW!!!!!WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Most goverment agencies will vaccinate you as an employee for free. Hell, they are doing my whole family for free and this is the Federal goverment. Pharmacuitical companies are all rich but you also gotta remember how much money is invested and YEARS to get a drug to market.
Drugs hitting the market now were started being developed 10 years ago. FDA trials take over 3 years alone.

[Joe Mamas Mama]

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LOL, I don't vaccinate my kids and I love these arguments that your endangering others by not getting vaccinated. If vaccinations work, not getting them would only be risky to those who didn't get them. If they don't work, why are you getting them in the first place and if they only work part of the time - why is it worth risking the side effects of toxicity for a maybe.

This is the problem with America. People that are in agreement with the justification for a policy [e.g. people that think vaccinations are good] don't recognize the fact that forcing people to do what you think is a good thing IS STILL FORCING PEOPLE TO DO WHAT THEY DON'T WANT!!!!

Politicians have been intertwining justifications and policies for so long, many people can't tell the freaking difference between the policy (forcing people to do something) and the justification (why a certain act is a good thing).
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LOL, I don't vaccinate my kids and I love these arguments that your endangering others by not getting vaccinated. If vaccinations work, not getting them would only be risky to those who didn't get them. If they don't work, why are you getting them in the first place and if they only work part of the time - why is it worth risking the side effects of toxicity for a maybe.

WHAT??? I think its been made pretty clear that they are not 100% guarantee that you won't get the flu.

why is it worth risking the side effects of toxicity for a maybe.

Isn't the side affects of toxicity a maybe as well? More like an unlikely. The percentages are clear that you are highly unlikely to have toxicity issues or any other sides. Thats why it is approved worldwide for use.

This is the problem with America. People that are in agreement with the justification for a policy [e.g. people that think vaccinations are good] don't recognize the fact that forcing people to do what you think is a good thing IS STILL FORCING PEOPLE TO DO WHAT THEY DON'T WANT!!!!

Uhhh, thats why we have goverment to protect us overall from the enimies against us.. What exactly would you like goverment to do or what would you allow them to do?
Goverment is forcing you to pay taxes, drive 65mph on the highway and 20mph in residential neighborhoods, vaccinate your children, no drinking and driving I mean tell me when to stop.

[Joe Mamas Mama]

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I DONT EVEN GET MY DOGS VACCINATED...Look that one up....look and see how many dogs/cats have had legs amputated from vaccinations... introducing disease into a small body, when a small body should be building up its immune system naturally, is counterintuitive.

Again, a small percentage of amputations occur. I've had dogs for 35 years, prob. over 30 dogs. They all had their shots religiously and no amputations, not a one. Now reverse that and guess how many of my dogs would have contracted heart worms and dide if they weren't vaccinated? Well in Florida where it is hot and a GUARANTEE they will get them its a 100%. In northern states its not much of an issue.
Again, the 1% of vaccinated related issues is far outweighed as a positive justification.

[Joe Mamas Mama]

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My wife says there are placed in CO that make you do it and so she checks some box that says for religious beliefs that she will not get the vaccines. Because of religious rights, my son is in school and they have to allow him. The only thing is they say if there is some kind of break out that we might have to pull him. Who cares! We have friends who took their youngest for a shot once and he now has autism. I've known this kid since he was born and he was completely normal and then all of a sudden it's like he regressed years. He lost words that he could speak easily and he goes into these tantrums that he never did before. If he wanted something, he used to ask for it.....now he just points. They are spending a fortune now because he is in behavioral and speech therapy. However, he was completely normal before the shot. The drug company denies any possible link even though ALL his medical records prove the changes took place right after the shot.

Vaccines are fuked up! Do you guys have any idea the crap they put in those things to prolong the shelf life? Mercury is one of them. Oh, but don't worry, for some reason our FDA is convinced that children are some how immune to this thing that is dangerous to us adults. Fuking FDA! They are more crooked that the Mafia. At least the Mafia has enough honor to tell you they are going to fuk you.
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Colorado is only 2nd to California for Democratic thinking and things like gay marriage and religious beliefs gets some leeway as compared to Alabama.
Does it happen? Sure and I feel sorry for that child and his family.But really they can't point the finger enough toprove thats where it comes from and Autism does develop or progress in a child as they get older but I'm not denying that its poss. Kids have DIED from getting mandatory vaccines but its highly unlikely and infrequent. None the less, if that happened to one of mine, somebody else is going to die.If they had any real evidence theyd be rich. Again , I'm sorry if thats the source.

[Joe Mamas Mama]

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This mentality falls in line with seatbelt laws, helmet laws, smoke detector laws, these things should be left to personal choice not government mandate. The government should not be micromanaging anyones life.

I agree in relating to adults. But seatbelts for kids should be mandatory. If you don't want to wear one as an adult and are ejected when your car rolls over and you die, at least your kids can still be put into the foster care system. I'm sure they will find a good home and be perfectly normal functioning adults.
Same point with smoke detectors. You shouldn't have the choice to protect your children or let them die aloing with you.
Now did that sink in at all???

[BABY1]

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I think it is good to get these vaccinations, especially for children. I am not sure that they have totally proven vaccines are the cause of autism. When the pediatrician told me the statistics on children that have died from the flu, we chose to vaccinate our daughter. I have to admit that that scared me. My daugher gets all the required vaccines and we make sure they are spread out and that she is not given a bunch at a time.

As far as the goverment making you vaccinate your child, I don't completely agree with that. I think that is a choice the parents need to make.

[Joe Mamas Mama]

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I'm not a big fan of the goverment meddling into our lives anymore than needed but when it comes to public health, thats different.
A look at history and the massive deadly epidemics in history is the reason mandatory immunizations are neccesary.
When my pediatrician gave me the stats before my kids were about to get their shots, I was REALLY confused. What do you mean they could die from this????
Again the stats of a deadly reaction from the shots to death without the shots, I chose to get them. I was still scared to death.