Another dumb move by Obama

[straydoglogic]

Re: Another dumb move by Obama

why do people feel the need to take things out of context to suit their agenda?
its pathetic..you can clearly see that he wasnt refering to palin but to mccain being the same as bush...
just as when mccain said it he was refering to clintons health plan....sheeple sheeple sheeple..bah bah bah...

[Stout1]

Re: Another dumb move by Obama

every ones is nit picking

McCain said it after Clinton

Obama said it after Palin


you can try to explain and "excuse" each one but in all realilty it's a ripple in the water cuz it's non deciding factor

[Stout1]

Re: Another dumb move by Obama

Read on for some of the three dozen examples.

For Immediate Release
Office of the Vice President
November 1, 2004
Vice President's Remarks in Honolulu, Hawaii
Hawaii Convention Center
Honolulu, Hawaii

THE VICE PRESIDENT: In the first debate, this year, Senator Kerry said America had to meet some kind of "global test" before we could take military action.
AUDIENCE: Booo!
THE VICE PRESIDENT: The President and I know better than that. We know that it is not our job to conduct international opinion polls. Our job is to defend America. (Applause.)
Now, in the closing days of this campaign, John Kerry is running around talking tough. He's trying every which way to cover up his record of weakness on national defense. But he can't do it. It won't work. As we like to say in Wyoming, you can put all the lipstick you want on a pig, but at the end of the day it's still a pig. (Applause.)
That's one of my favorite lines. (Laughter.) You want to hear it again?
AUDIENCE: Yes!
THE VICE PRESIDENT: As we say in Wyoming -- (laughter) -- you can put all the lipstick you want on a pig, but at the end of the day it's still a pig. (Applause.) This is a great crowd. (Applause.) All right.
AUDIENCE: Cheney! Cheney! Cheney! (Applause.)

For Immediate Release
Office of the Vice President
October 15, 2004
Remarks by the Vice President at a Victory 2004 Rally
Deltaplex Entertainment & Expo Center
Grand Rapids, Michigan

THE VICE PRESIDENT: All right, what are you guys doing for the next 18 days? (Laughter and applause.) You saw John Kerry Wednesday night trying to back off that idea of a "global test." That notion fits with his whole career, but he doesn't want us to know about his whole career. He is trying to hide it, to cover it up by using a little tough talk during the course of this campaign. But you can't do that. It won't work. To use a phrase that we like in our home state of Wyoming, you can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig. (Applause.)

For Immediate Release
Office of the Vice President
October 30, 2004
Vice President's Remarks in Zanesville, Ohio
Hallowed Hills Conference Center
Zanesville, Ohio

THE VICE PRESIDENT: The President and I know better than that. We know that it is not our job to conduct international opinion polls, our job is to defend America. (Applause.) Now in the closing days of this campaign, John Kerry is trying every which way to cover up his record of weakness on national defense. But he can't do it. It won't work. As we like to say in Wyoming, you can put all the lipstick you want on a pig but at the end of the day, it's still a pig. (Laughter and applause.) That's my favorite line. (Laughter.) Want to hear it again? AUDIENCE: Yes! THE VICE PRESIDENT: As we say in Wyoming -- (laughter) -- you can put all the lipstick you want on a pig, but at the end of the day, it's still a pig. (Applause.)

The spouse whose job Alaska's First Dude Todd Palin hopes to get, Second Lady Lynne Cheney, also likes the expression:


Remarks of Mrs. Cheney and the Vice President Following a Debate Watching Party
Em****y Suites Hotel
Coraopolis, Pennsylvania
October 13, 2004
10:47 P.M. EDT

MRS. CHENEY: Was our man great tonight? (Applause.) This is the President that has made us proud for four years, and he will make us proud for the next four. (Applause.)
Now, I did have a chance to assess John Kerry once more. And the only thing I could conclude is this is not a good man. This is not a good man. And of course, I am speaking as a mom and a pretty indignant mom. This is not a good man -- what a cheap and tawdry political trick. (Applause.)
You know what he has been doing for this whole campaign is trying to dress up his political record any way he can; trying to hide, obscure, make sure we don't notice that 20-year record in the Senate. And didn't the President do a great job of bringing it out? (Applause.)
John Kerry tries to put a bunch of fancy, fancy talk -- tried to disguise that record, sort of like his fancy haircut, fancy manicure, tried to disguise the whole thing. (Laughter.) But there is nothing you can do to really -- to really obscure that record. You can try, though. And in Wyoming, we've got a saying for what it is when you keep trying to make something that's not so good look good, we call it putting lipstick on a pig. (Laughter.) Yes. (Applause.) And it doesn't work.
It doesn't work, does it, Mr. Vice President? You're on. (Applause.)

[Dzone]

Re: Another dumb move by Obama

Is that a take on the proverb that says a woman without discretion is like a gold ring in a pigs snout? LOL ..anyway, this whole campaign is turning into a campaign of smear...I think everytime they talk about the opposition like that, they dishonor themselves. It is never enhancing. I totally like sarah but she doesnt look good when she is trashing the other guys. Wouldnt it be great to have a candidate that only talks about what he/she plans to do if elected? Ha.

[6p6]

Re: Another dumb move by Obama

really can't believe anyone would be so dumb

[Klash]

Re: Another dumb move by Obama

why do people feel the need to take things out of context to suit their agenda?
its pathetic..you can clearly see that he wasnt refering to palin but to mccain being the same as bush...
just as when mccain said it he was refering to clintons health plan....sheeple sheeple sheeple..bah bah bah...

That's right bro, he was comparing McCain to Bush, except with lipstick. Bro know matter how you cut it - it was poor judgment.

[straydoglogic]

Re: Another dumb move by Obama

but the fact of the matter is that its a common idiom used by many....its the media spinning it out of control and people buying into the bullshyte...

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=lipstick%20on%20a%20pig

http://www.usingenglish.com/reference/idioms/put+lipstick+on+a+pig.html

http://www.yourdictionary.com/pig

[FUZO]

Re: Another dumb move by Obama

Stray you can post all your dictionaries you want but the american people know what he meant by it. he has done this before in the past with his slip of the tounge and got him onto trouble

[straydoglogic]

Re: Another dumb move by Obama

no i dont think they do know what he meant fuzo..i think they know what the media is telling them what he meant...as usual......ive spoken to plenty of people about this already that know enough to realize that the media is having their way with this..as they always do...
what amazes me is how many people take the medias word as gospel..if they say it..you must believe it..cuz if its on tv it just has to be true...

[BABY1]

Re: Another dumb move by Obama

Doesn't matter one bit because it is after the fact. "think before yo speak" as the saying goes. Usually Obama stutters to get things out, but not this time. He knew exactly what he was doing, and it is NOT the media that lead me to believe this!!

[straydoglogic]

Re: Another dumb move by Obama

this whole thing is a joke..people are that naive that they fall for this shyte...
again..why the hell is it ok for mcsame to say it?..or general patreus..OR THE MILLIONS OF OTHERS WHO HAVE USED THIS IDIOM!????
im done with this topic because no matter how much logic or rationale you bring to some thing people will still fight it because its not what they want to hear...and it makes me sick to think that americans will vote for somebody based on race or gender..because when she came out nobody knew..and for the most part..still dont know who the hell she is or anything about her...but shes a woman!!!! yayeee!!!!
i guess sometimes ignorance trumps rational thinking....

[BABY1]

Re: Another dumb move by Obama

this whole thing is a joke..people are that naive that they fall for this shyte...
again..why the hell is it ok for mcsame to say it?..or general patreus..OR THE MILLIONS OF OTHERS WHO HAVE USED THIS IDIOM!????
im done with this topic because no matter how much logic or rationale you bring to some thing people will still fight it because its not what they want to hear...and it makes me sick to think that americans will vote for somebody based on race or gender..because when she came out nobody knew..and for the most part..still dont know who the hell she is or anything about her...but shes a woman!!!! yayeee!!!!
i guess sometimes ignorance trumps rational thinking....

You are right, noone did no who she was, but the same went for Obama when he came out into the scene. I have lived in Chicago for 40 years and I never even heard of Obama. Obama has just had more time to try to get people to know who he is before the election. Palin will not have as much time, but what some people know about her so far, they like.

[Dzone]

Re: Another dumb move by Obama

obama has an arrogance about him that was on display when he was poppin off. Well, phuck it they all do.

[Klash]

Re: Another dumb move by Obama

this whole thing is a joke..people are that naive that they fall for this shyte...
again..why the hell is it ok for mcsame to say it?..or general patreus..OR THE MILLIONS OF OTHERS WHO HAVE USED THIS IDIOM!????
im done with this topic because no matter how much logic or rationale you bring to some thing people will still fight it because its not what they want to hear...and it makes me sick to think that americans will vote for somebody based on race or gender..because when she came out nobody knew..and for the most part..still dont know who the hell she is or anything about her...but shes a woman!!!! yayeee!!!!
i guess sometimes ignorance trumps rational thinking....

Ironic isn't it. The same thing that catapulted Obama to success is going to defeat him.

[O2BESOHUGE]

Re: Another dumb move by Obama

Ironic isn't it. The same thing that catapulted Obama to success is going to defeat him.

HOPEFULLY!~!