Truth bit by bit!

[DJDIGGLER]

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yeah, I don't like to have to pick a story from an individual that throws 2 different versions at me either. Their credibilty is shot in my book after that. You know that they fabricate strories because one version has to be a fabrication so how do you know which one is the truth. I tend to lean towards the ole trusted he who doesn't vary his story any is telling the truth.

HAHAHA! I hear that. That would be why you can't believe one word that comes out of the Bush administrations mouth, especially their 9/11 report! These people fabricate, manipulate and twist to ensure they look like the golden boys!

[horsepwr]

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Why do you say that? Is there variations in the report as there is in the Greenspan article?


oh, and your inbox is full DJ. That's why I didn't reply a couple weeks ago.

[DJDIGGLER]

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Why do you say that? Is there variations in the report as there is in the Greenspan article?


oh, and your inbox is full DJ. That's why I didn't reply a couple weeks ago.

Yes it's all one giant variation. I'd be hard pressed to believe there is 1 cold hard fact in that whole report!

Just like the gov't telling everyone vaccines are so safe. Tell that to the thousands of people that's child dies everyday from getting the vaccine. More children die from the vaccines than from the diseases they protect you from. Yet our government whole heartedly stands behind something that does that type of damage.

If it's so safe how come the Rockefellers didn't vaccinate their kids? How come Tony Blair didn't vaccinate his kids?

The list of powerful gov't figures that didn't vaccinate goes on and on, yet they push it on americans as safe!

My point is you can't believe a damn thing your government tells you because they are 100% corrupt, and DO NOT have your best interest in mind!

[daved150]

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^,,,fuk...no sence in voting then..

[horsepwr]

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Well I guess if you don't believe anything that's reported, you won't believe what vaccinations have recently done in Africa since '99. Do you even think that private practice doctors and volunteers are trying to deceive you? Vaccines are responsible for pretty much wiping out diseases. There is a risk, but nowhere near thousands of deaths annually. It doesn't even reach 100 deaths from vaccines, but there is that risk and it is your choice.

Have you ever been to a funeral or visiting someone's grave and roamed around to just look around. You'll notice that in the 1800s and 1900s-50s or so that there were alot of infant and child deaths. You'll notice a rapid decline after those years...the results of vaccinations.

If I had your beliefs I would do everything I could to put myself in the position to make a change. I would at least go to great lengths to find the truth. I would use vacations as opportunties to learn the truth. Better than that, find a career that would put myself right in the midst of things. Ask the doctors and volunteers and workers...get the facts first hand.

[daved150]

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lol...if i had dj's belief's, i'd take a couple of bottles of sleeping pills, slit my wrist's and hang myself!!! dont take this wrong dj, but your the most paranoid/doom and gloom person i know!!! but i still luv ya!

[DJDIGGLER]

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I love you too daved. I do need to take meltonin to sleep sometimes. HAHA! Just like the matrix, I took the wrong pill and now I wish I didn't see how far the rabbit hole goes!

I'll be back for your comment tommorrow horsepower. Be prepared to have your statement dragged through the mud. But the difference is I'm going to provide reputable links to my claims, not mere speculation. Nothing personal at ya, but you know I take my politics seriously.

[daved150]

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*fuk horsepower!!! see what you did!! now i got's to watch a bunch of his link's, disregard the information, and twist countless points he's gonna try to make!!! your killin me....fukin killing me smalls!!!

[Klash]

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DJDiggler is right about vaccinations.

Everyone should take a step back and look at the issue objectively before just taking the doc's dogmatic advice about this $hit. I'm not saying vaccines shouldn't be done ever but if you research it, we're being vaccinated out the a$$. Just think about the vaccines you got as a kid and then the vaccines they give kids today. Kids get more in two shots today than you probably did in your whole life. But the American Academy of Pediatrics recommends vaccines and doctors don't typically stray from that, people just get them done because they trust their doctors.

When I presented what I researched to my child's pediatrician she simply stated the AAP recommends vaccinations. I have friends who's children went into convulsions just after vaccinating and I have heard that same story many times now.

[solidground]

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^good post..i agree vaccines can cause alot of harm, not letting my kids get them in the future..unfortunately our govt makes kids get them before they can enter school..Population control..I believe they are a major cause of autism, along with all the steroids in our food..i think the statistics are like 1 in 166 children born will have autism(might be wrong, but its high)..this number is gonna get even more scary in the near future because of the loosely tested and unsafe vaccines and chems in our food.

[horsepwr]

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I love you too daved. I do need to take meltonin to sleep sometimes. HAHA! Just like the matrix, I took the wrong pill and now I wish I didn't see how far the rabbit hole goes!

I'll be back for your comment tommorrow horsepower. Be prepared to have your statement dragged through the mud. But the difference is I'm going to provide reputable links to my claims, not mere speculation. Nothing personal at ya, but you know I take my politics seriously.

okay dj, let's see what you've uncovered. I found a short article from the Red Cross that backs up my statement about Africa. It's not at all as involved as the report I read a while back but it tells the stats none-the-less.

http://www.redcross.org/article/0,1072,0_333_4972,00.html

[Klash]

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^good post..i agree vaccines can cause alot of harm, not letting my kids get them in the future..unfortunately our govt makes kids get them before they can enter school..Population control..I believe they are a major cause of autism, along with all the steroids in our food..i think the statistics are like 1 in 166 children born will have autism(might be wrong, but its high)..this number is gonna get even more scary in the near future because of the loosely tested and unsafe vaccines and chems in our food.

you can file a philosophical/religious exemption and not have to get your kids vaccinated. A lot of schools aren't even aware of this so you might have to inform them.

[daved150]

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ALL MY KIDS GOT THEM...NO PROB'S. ALL MY NIECES, NEPHEWS, COUSINS, BROTHERS, MYSELF...JUST ABOUT EVERYONE I KNOW!! MATTER OF FACT, I DONT KNOW ONE PERSON THAT HAD A PROBLEM FROM THEM ACCEPT MY WIFE. SHE CANT GET A FLU SHOT...GIVES HER THE FLU. BUT, I'M FINE WITH THEM

[DJDIGGLER]

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^good post..i agree vaccines can cause alot of harm, not letting my kids get them in the future..unfortunately our govt makes kids get them before they can enter school..Population control..I believe they are a major cause of autism, along with all the steroids in our food..i think the statistics are like 1 in 166 children born will have autism(might be wrong, but its high)..this number is gonna get even more scary in the near future because of the loosely tested and unsafe vaccines and chems in our food.

It's illegal for them to make you vaccinate your kids to get in school. That's how they want you to think. You are allowed to let your kid go to school without vaccines simply by using a Religous Exemption. That's what I did. Zero vaccines for my child and he literally is 3 months ahead in all of his milestones. My family gave me crap about not vaccinating, now they shut their mouths when my 5 month old is doing stuff their 9month and 1 year olds aren't even doing yet. Vaccinates severely mess up your body and mind. Some states also philosiphical and medical exemptions, you would have to check with your state about that. But all states HAVE TO HAVE RELIGOUS EXEMPTIONS.

Another thing is you might here from others that it's not fair for you to send your unvaccinated child to school with their vaccinated child because your child may get their child sick. Simple response to this is the vaccine is supposed to make the child build an immunity to the sickness so even if your kid did come down with the sickness it shouldn't effect their vaccinated child. Unless of course they are saying the vaccine doesn't work in which case why would they vaccinate their child then?

I for one have proof I was messed up from vaccines. According to my extensive medical record I have in my possession, I was growing perfectly until 3 months. I was a chubby baby, very alert, and was healthy. When looking at my chart @ 5 months it said hasn't gained any weight in 2 months and has developed severe sinus issues (which to this day no doctor can fix) also seems to be hyperactive. That threw up a red flag so I looked back 2 months to see what might have happened then to scue my growth. 2 months to the day was my MMR vaccination. When looking up current side effects it says loss in weight, untreatable sinus issues, and ADHD / ADD. Well I have all of those now. And I actually was able to directly pin it to the vaccines. So I am living proof of that. Also ever since that MMR shot I've had trouble gaining weight and have always had an EXTREMELY fast metabolism.

Oh and Horsepower this isn't my response to you yet. I'm waiting till I get back from the gym so my wife (whom is a nurse) can help me with the thousands of links and facts she has stored up. That's right I'm getting it right from the mouth of someone that practices in healthcare just like you said!

[solidground]

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by make. i didnt mean force, but they will tell you that you need them, its a state law i believe..It's just a pain in the ass to challenge it but like you said it can be done if you fight it hard enough..interesting about the religious exemption-sounds legit.