So sad!

[daved150]

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First off your putting words in my mouth. I was saying that people don't only die for religon in the middle east. If you want to be technical more people have died in the name of god than for any other reason in history! So you can take your "The middle east is the problem" Ideal and toss it out the window.

I my friend do not discriminate or segregate because of ones beliefs, nationality, or the color of their skin. I feel equal pain for the innocents that die over there, that I do for innocents that die here! There will always be war aslong as people don't understand that we are all the same but with different views. If you don't see that just look at all of the political debates we have here. So many different views, so many different beliefs.

Also as for the comparing part I was trying to get you guys to understand and see the other persons view. I was trying to help you put yourself in the other persons shoes. But of course you guys ALWAYS put words in my mouth, and make it seem like I flame people, or say stuff I don't. I don't get why it's so hard to just see both viewpoints.

And where the f do you get off saying I think anyone needs to be gassed out of existence? Where the hell did I say that in my post? NOWHERE! Again you people put words in my mouth and try to make it seem like I said shiit I didn't to make your point right. Well your point isn't right and you know why???!!! BECAUSE IT IS BIASED AND ONE SIDED! You need to look at both sides to be unbiased!

The sad part is I could point out many different videos that have stuff that was played on national news that was overlooked by the average citizen but you guys would say it's a lie, or a conspiracy theory. Anything that doesn't go along with 'We could do no wrong' is wrong in your eyes. I've yet to see either of you actually watch any of the vids I've posted and actually come back with something to debunk it with. Or even to come back with some valid arguments to the points presented in the vids.

But again if your going to debate please take the time to read what I wrote before your start putting words in my mouth. That just makes it a pointless and meaningless debate and I mean that in a freindly way.

ok mr "read what i wrote"...did you see the QUESTION MARK in my gas sentance? i didnt SAY you felt that...as a matter of fact, i'm quite certain you dont, that's why i ASKED that, so please take the time to read what i posted. (and dont be so sensitive!!, lol) you sit there and claim to put yourself in others shoes, but i have yet to see you ever put yourself in the shoes of one of our troops. matter of fact, the only positive thing in regard to any service member that i can recall that you have said was about one that disregarded orders!!!
bro, i'll admit, your obviously a way better man than i...i cannot put myself in EVERYBODY'S shoes. i cannot even imagine sitting at my kithchen table, wiring up a bomb to strap to someone's body, for them to go blow people (including themselve) up!! damn bro...if you can imagine that (I SAID IF!!) then i want you on my paintball team too!!! me and t can shoot anything that move's, and you can take a 5 gallon bucket of paint and a couple m-80's and splatter them all with paint!!! it'll get you too, but thats the price of a few dozen pic's of virgins (i mean come on, it's paintball world, you cant get the real virgins!!)
oh, and i really was just trying to get you to put yourself in the troops shoes...but, i'm having a hard time getting them to fit ya

[DJDIGGLER]

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Btw, I'm not too sensitive. I'm quite the opposite. I feel people have the right to say whatever they feel. I only get pissed when people misconstrue what I've said. I'm more about freedom of speech than 99% of the people out their. I'd rather have people voice their true opinions rather than have to walk on pins and needles when they say things because they don't want any repurcussions. Where's the honesty or truth in that?

Honestly it's pointless to debate if you don't even see the error in your own posts. It's going to be a never ending argument.

[daved150]

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Btw, I'm not too sensitive. I'm quite the opposite. I feel people have the right to say whatever they feel. I only get pissed when people misconstrue what I've said. I'm more about freedom of speech than 99% of the people out their. I'd rather have people voice their true opinions rather than have to walk on pins and needles when they say things because they don't want any repurcussions. Where's the honesty or truth in that?

Honestly it's pointless to debate if you don't even see the error in your own posts. It's going to be a never ending argument.

well bro, i'm sorry to see ya end it that way...i feel we was on the verge of a major break through!!! the sensitive thing was a joke referring to an old post of your's ( i really thaught you'd chuckle at that). and i just wanted to see if you could put yourself in someone else's shoe's. if you could, for once, put yourself in the shoes of those men and women over there (who many probobly dont want to be there, but are following orders). just to see if you could agree that maybe some of them are just trying to live...trying to come home. to see if YOU could imagine what THEY are going through, and admit, sometimes, war is a motherf*ker!!! innocent civilian die...sad, but true. (i personally dont believe there is as many "innocent" people over there as you do, but we'll save that for another day)

[DJDIGGLER]

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well bro, i'm sorry to see ya end it that way...i feel we was on the verge of a major break through!!! the sensitive thing was a joke referring to an old post of your's ( i really thaught you'd chuckle at that). and i just wanted to see if you could put yourself in someone else's shoe's. if you could, for once, put yourself in the shoes of those men and women over there (who many probobly dont want to be there, but are following orders). just to see if you could agree that maybe some of them are just trying to live...trying to come home. to see if YOU could imagine what THEY are going through, and admit, sometimes, war is a motherf*ker!!! innocent civilian die...sad, but true. (i personally dont believe there is as many "innocent" people over there as you do, but we'll save that for another day)

Sure but aslong as people want to believe our government hasn't scammed us to believe war was necessary, our soldiers will continue to be put in those predicaments. it's those same people that can't question what's going on here that the soldiers can thank for being over there in the first place. I try to make people see the light, but they'd rather be vampires and chill in the dark!

[pigmeat]

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diggler, most people DO think we were scammed by our govt into war...thats why Bush only has a 30 percent approval rating....but to criticise our young troops who are following orders, doing what they SHOULD do is ridiculous! That is UNPATRIOTIC!!Sure this country isnt perfect, but tell me one other country that is better! Nothin is perfect....never will be..sure i disagree with alot of things the govt does too, but why dont you sit back and think about some of the good things they have done and quit being so damn negative....Enjoying the good things is just as patriotic as crying and moaning about the things YOU want changed

[DJDIGGLER]

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diggler, most people DO think we were scammed by our govt into war...thats why Bush only has a 30 percent approval rating....but to criticise our young troops who are following orders, doing what they SHOULD do is ridiculous! That is UNPATRIOTIC!!Sure this country isnt perfect, but tell me one other country that is better! Nothin is perfect....never will be..sure i disagree with alot of things the govt does too, but why dont you sit back and think about some of the good things they have done and quit being so damn negative....Enjoying the good things is just as patriotic as crying and moaning about the things YOU want changed

That's exactly how they want you to think. Way to fall in line!