Is the US ready for a Black President

[DJDIGGLER]

Re: Is the US ready for a Black President

on wages, the basic problem is

there aren't jobs that GURANTEE ANYTHING ANYMORE

in the past it was hey, you start at 10 bucks and after x number of years you're making 20 bucks, ie, large blue collar work force

you can climb the ladder yet you have to continually prove you're worth

also, when u go from 100 million to 300 million, the % stay the same, yet, proportionately the lower and lower middle get bigger

i will say one thing, that imho most folks lack, is initiative, i've hired so many folks that desire to do the minimum, and less, it is almost like a god from heaven bonus to find someone who exceeds expectations

and as i tell all my clients, if you go the extra mile in whatever job u do, you will be pulled up the ladder of success by folks higher than u cause they are dying to find repsonsible folks that can help them

Yeah because your nothing but a number to most businesses and they could care less what your future looks like.

As for the lack of good workers I'd have to disagree. Myself as well as many I know are hard workers, and we used to get so pissed because it would always be the jerk that doesn't do anything, or had a horrible work ethic/attitude that would end up in management. It never failed. So eventually people give up because their sick off busting their azz to watch the slacker get the promotion.

I say blame the lack of good workers on companies with poor management that didn't know how to promote proper people! Atleast that's what I noticed in my case.

[trip]

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well, in the '90's we had oh, like 1.5 billion free capitalists in the world

today, 5 billion


itza a different world today, and dat's a fact

imho, blaming others is a hopeless endevor

good luck

[solidground]

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The conspiracy theory propaganda has been disproven time and time again. With all the anti-Bush sentiment around, I'm sure the liberal media left no stone unturned looking for something, anything that they could pin on Bush. What have they found? Nothing.

The threat of 9/11 manifested under the Clinton administration and both administrations deserve due blame for 9/11.

I find it fascinating that people like to portray Bush as this bumbling moron, yet they believe he possessed the where with all to mastermind the biggest attack on our home soil in history.

As for how Bush will go down in history, look at the country as a whole. Unemployment is low and we haven't had a terrorist attack since 9/11. If Iraq was going well, Bush's approval rating would be over 60%.

please name one thing disproved that i cant answer and ill give up believing in this theory forever. dont name popular mechanics as a reference either- they were the cousin and sponsored by michael chertoff

I find it fascinating that people like to portray Bush as this bumbling moron, yet they believe he possessed the where with all to mastermind the biggest attack on our home soil in history.

this shows you know nothing about the "conspiracy theory"..noone believes bush was the mastermind. The words liberal and media should not be used in the same sentence.

[HeHateMe]

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please name one thing disproved that i cant answer and ill give up believing in this theory forever. dont name popular mechanics as a reference either- they were the cousin and sponsored by michael chertoff

I find it fascinating that people like to portray Bush as this bumbling moron, yet they believe he possessed the where with all to mastermind the biggest attack on our home soil in history.

this shows you know nothing about the "conspiracy theory"..noone believes bush was the mastermind. The words liberal and media should not be used in the same sentence.

How about the 9/11 Commission's Report? You know it was bipartisan. Or was the entire US government in on it from top to bottom?

So who was the mastermind of this plot? Bush Sr.? Cheyney? Do you even realize the covertness that would have to take place from top to bottom to carry out such a detailed plan without dropping even one crumb?

The media is overwhelmingly biased towards the left, and it's not even close. Fox News is the only outlet that leans towards the GOP. I'm suprised you would even attempt to argue this point.

[solidground]

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bro you calling all the media to the left besides fox is rediculous- look up what else the owners of fox own- ALL tv channels are owned by 5 corporations. im not gonna have a left right discussion because its pointless.

The masterminds i have discussed - they are the illuminati-Figures in then U.s govt knew it was going to happen though, but noone ever blames them as the materminds. (its alot less logical to think a man in a cave on dialisis was the matermind). the 9-11 commision took how long ? 4 years, this should have been started within 3 months when evidence was fresh amd completed soon after? The commisioners were handpicked (10 of them) and many people they interviewed were all part of the bush administration. The 9-11 commision report was not the least bit satisfying for me, they left out tons of important information, and left even more questions unanswered

Noone ever even claimed they were responsible for 9-11, osama has actually been pretty out in the open to say he has nothing to do with it.
To think the domocrats and republicans differ in their agendas is rediculous- its a system thats supposed to divide people thats the whole point of having two parties.

please explain to me what leaning to the left has to do with people who ask questions about 9-11..most arent liberals. People seem to think if you ask any questions your a liberal and its quite the opposite in most cases.

[DJDIGGLER]

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How about the 9/11 Commission's Report? You know it was bipartisan. Or was the entire US government in on it from top to bottom?

So who was the mastermind of this plot? Bush Sr.? Cheyney? Do you even realize the covertness that would have to take place from top to bottom to carry out such a detailed plan without dropping even one crumb?

The media is overwhelmingly biased towards the left, and it's not even close. Fox News is the only outlet that leans towards the GOP. I'm suprised you would even attempt to argue this point.

I still love how noone ever mentions what was disproven? Where was the proof of what they disproved?

Atleast the theories I believe in have scientific and video proof to back up the claims. Can you say the same?

[pigmeat]

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pretty reasonable....a typical 1500sq ft home for around $130-150 k and up depending on the town....these high paying jobs were scarce when the clintons ran the sow...

How do the wages match the cost of living? I'm not sure because I don't know much about the cost of living in the midwest.

The problem I see is usually wages don't match the cost of living. For instance the wages in Maryland are great if you compare them to wages around the country. Now when you figure in the fact that a basic starter condo starts in the upper $200's and houses are even higher, the wages no longer are as great as they may have seemed.

Florida's wages don't match the cost of living. an average house in florida now is in the low $200's (unless your on the east coast of Florida then it's the low $300's) whereas the wages are on average about $10-$12 an hour. Two people at that salary would barely make it buy when you figure in a $300 a month homeowners policy, and an average car payment of $250 per person.

So again unemployment might not be as high as it was, but people are more broke than they've ever been. My grandma tells me the only difference she see's between the great depression, and today, is that food is readily available. She said in all her years she can't remember another time that every single person she knew was struggling as bad as they are now. That's not the signs of a great economy by any means!

[DJDIGGLER]

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pretty reasonable....a typical 1500sq ft home for around $130-150 k and up depending on the town....these high paying jobs were scarce when the clintons ran the sow...

Wow! That is pretty decent. Well it's nice to know that atleast some americans get to live without having to worry about money as much. But the rest of the country isn't doing as hot.

[pigmeat]

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Wow! That is pretty decent. Well it's nice to know that atleast some americans get to live without having to worry about money as much. But the rest of the country isn't doing as hot.

remember, this was one of the lower income/depressed areas in the country for alot of years..now eryone else is oercrowded, so they are flocking here, so the cost of living wont be cheap for long..

[HeHateMe]

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Atleast the theories I believe in have scientific and video proof to back up the claims.

Scientific proof? What proof? With all due respect bro, I think you've been watching too many Michael Moore movies.

Where's this 'video proof' you mention? Please post it...

[pigmeat]

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Scientific proof? What proof? With all due respect bro, I think you've been watching too many Michael Moore movies.

Where's this 'video proof' you mention? Please post it...

michael moore is a dumb a s s

[chaos]

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I believe history will show Bush and his ties were the direct cause of the 9/11 attacks to allow his invasion of the middle east. Give me one other reason at that time besides 9/11 that the american public would have allowed our country to go into war and invade the middle east? There is no other reason!

this might be the single most rediculous theory in history... what a crock.

[HeHateMe]

Re: Is the US ready for a Black President

on wages, the basic problem is

there aren't jobs that GURANTEE ANYTHING ANYMORE

in the past it was hey, you start at 10 bucks and after x number of years you're making 20 bucks, ie, large blue collar work force

i will say one thing, that imho most folks lack, is initiative, i've hired so many folks that desire to do the minimum, and less, it is almost like a god from heaven bonus to find someone who exceeds expectations

I agree. Guaranteed pay increases and job security still exist in much of the unionized world, but that's about it.

I couldn't agree more about a substantial percentage of the work force having absolutely no work ethic whatsoever. Everyone is looking for short cuts, wanting to do the absolute minimum. It's a rarity that you'll find a worker that will give you an honest day's work nowadays.

[HeHateMe]

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Yeah the wages have stayed the same and that is the problem. The cost of living has skyrocketed under Bush. Under Clinton gas was .97 cents a gallon, under Bush it was at one point over $3 a gallon!!!! Waaaay higher than during the iranian crisis in the 80's.

Under Clinton Homeowners insurnace wasn't increased 1000% literally! Under Bush homeowners insurance is up 1000% in some area's making people have to foreclose and take major losses in their homes in a bottomed out real estate market! I know the argument will be natural disasters are the cause, but the true cause is insurance companies are allowed to make pilot companies in florida so when a disaster happens they take from the Florida pool only. That's not fair when the rest of the country has natural disasters of there own and are allowed to dip into a nationwide pool as opposed to a state by state pool.

Under Clinton energy costs were lower. Under Bush they are dramatically higher. And the supply and demand argument doesn't fly, because there is no way that supply and demand has changed that dramatically in a 5 year period to make costs literally triple and quadruple! It isn't even logical. It's just price gouging!

So under Bush I don't see how you claim he will be so legendary?! He devastated our countries reputation throughout the world, and devastated our economy, without even mentioning the fact that he brought our national deficit to the highest point it's ever been in history. It's unbelievable to claim this guy will be looked at in a positive light in years to come!

LoL when did I ever state that Bush would be 'legendary'. I don't even think you bothered to read any of my posts. Since when does 'decent' equate to 'legendary'? For the record, I believed it was a mistake to enter Iraq. Let's not re-write history on the rest of his record though.

Bush has presided over two wars and the biggest natural disaster in our country's history. C'mon now, you know this throws a lot of the numbers out of whack. Inflated gas prices are a direct result of uncertainty in the Middle East and our own love of foreign oil.

The fact is that the economy under Bush equals or supercedes the economy under your beloved Clinton. Ask any non-partisan economic observer/strategist and they'll tell you the same thing. The fact is that the tax cuts implemented by the Bush administration brought us out of a recession.

The unemployment, inflation, and economic growth numbers are all very comparable to the Clinton years. Consumer confidence, manufacturing, and new home ownership are all up under Bush.

[solidground]

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lol michael moore--bro im sorry, but what are you even talking about? If you really want proof 9-11 was an inside job id be willing to post everything- but i dont think you have the least bit of interest in even trying to hear it