Is the US ready for a Black President

[solidground]

Re: Is the US ready for a Black President

lol..satanists, not sure if thats the right word (it doesnt always mean people who worship satan at all)- wouldnt suprise me though--i know im gonna get **** for this but i do believe many illuminati figures are evil people that belong to a cult. they go to a place called bohemian grove annually (do a search) for worshiping and religious traditions. also skull and bones is linked with oocults.

[DJDIGGLER]

Re: Is the US ready for a Black President

discuss...

I wouldn't have a problem with a black president aslong as he's not one of those guys that whines about slavery and discrimination. If he was a black guy like Bill Cosby that speaks well (educated without ebonics), and isn't blaming all of his problems on white people, than I wouldn't mind it.

[DJDIGGLER]

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I believe history will show Bush to be a decent President and not the incompetent, evil mogul the liberal media has made him out to be, but that's down the line.

Kind of like Nixon and watergate? I believe history will show Bush and his ties were the direct cause of the 9/11 attacks to allow his invasion of the middle east. Give me one other reason at that time besides 9/11 that the american public would have allowed our country to go into war and invade the middle east? There is no other reason!

I also find it amusing how the media miraculously pulls all video's of 9/11 off the air and it's something noone on tv likes to talk about. What about Pearl Harbor? We still see vids of that to this day!

That's my opinion and you have yours. We'll see who's right in years to come.

[Rolsroyce]

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lol..satanists, not sure if thats the right word (it doesnt always mean people who worship satan at all)- wouldnt suprise me though--i know im gonna get **** for this but i do believe many illuminati figures are evil people that belong to a cult. they go to a place called bohemian grove annually (do a search) for worshiping and religious traditions. also skull and bones is linked with oocults.

i do know of the skull and bones society and there is evidence that many politically powerful people are members in this time and the past. So i do see where you are going with this.

[solidground]

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suprisingly skull an bones is pretty out in the open lately-- the movie the good shepard shows some of the stuff that goes on within.this organization is not a conspiracy - it exists for the elite from yale- and is the illuminatis "station" in the U.S

[Fit2bLarge]

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I also find it amusing how the media miraculously pulls all video's of 9/11 off the air and it's something noone on tv likes to talk about.

911 is still a fresh wound, you must give it time to heal, just as it was done with pearl habor

I find your tone of 911 disrespectful

[HeHateMe]

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Kind of like Nixon and watergate? I believe history will show Bush and his ties were the direct cause of the 9/11 attacks to allow his invasion of the middle east. Give me one other reason at that time besides 9/11 that the american public would have allowed our country to go into war and invade the middle east? There is no other reason!

I also find it amusing how the media miraculously pulls all video's of 9/11 off the air and it's something noone on tv likes to talk about. What about Pearl Harbor? We still see vids of that to this day!

The conspiracy theory propaganda has been disproven time and time again. With all the anti-Bush sentiment around, I'm sure the liberal media left no stone unturned looking for something, anything that they could pin on Bush. What have they found? Nothing.

The threat of 9/11 manifested under the Clinton administration and both administrations deserve due blame for 9/11.

I find it fascinating that people like to portray Bush as this bumbling moron, yet they believe he possessed the where with all to mastermind the biggest attack on our home soil in history.

As for how Bush will go down in history, look at the country as a whole. Unemployment is low and we haven't had a terrorist attack since 9/11. If Iraq was going well, Bush's approval rating would be over 60%.

[DJDIGGLER]

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911 is still a fresh wound, you must give it time to heal, just as it was done with pearl habor

I find your tone of 911 disrespectful

How is my tone disrespectful? I find it irritating that all investigations stopped on the fall of the twin towers. Maybe you find it as disrespectful that I voice my opinion, but I find it disrespectful that so many people died that day in vain, and everyone wants to turn there heads and act like it never happened. I think these people that died deserve to have people that are patriotic enough to check every angle to make sure the true people that caused there death are put to justice.

Just like all of these wrongful convictions that are popping up all over the country taking people off death row because they were wrongfully convicted I feel time will show who the true perpetrators were in that whole ordeal!

[DJDIGGLER]

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The conspiracy theory propaganda has been disproven time and time again. With all the anti-Bush sentiment around, I'm sure the liberal media left no stone unturned looking for something, anything that they could pin on Bush. What have they found? Nothing.

The threat of 9/11 manifested under the Clinton administration and both administrations deserve due blame for 9/11.

I find it fascinating that people like to portray Bush as this bumbling moron, yet they believe he possessed the where with all to mastermind the biggest attack on our home soil in history.

As for how Bush will go down in history, look at the country as a whole. Unemployment is low and we haven't had a terrorist attack since 9/11. If Iraq was going well, Bush's approval rating would be over 60%.

Bush is a bumbling moron but it doesn't mean everyone that he's associated with is equally stupid. I love how you claim the so called Conspiracy Theories to be disproven time and time again. I've yet to hear any disclaims to the theory I support. There is no disclaiming it because it is solely based on scientific facts and not political opposition. Science is science! I hardly doubt thier going to disprove that!

As for unemployment being down I have no clue what government spun articles you read. But the truth of the matter is unemployment is high, forclosures are high, and people incomes are lower than they have ever been. Go and try to find a good job right now. It's nearly impossible! Everyone expects to pay $10-$13 an hour. How is someone supposed to live off that. Do you believe everything you read!

Maybe you need to do some research on propoganda and how governments throughout history have tried to induce their citizens to believe what they want them to believe. That isn't a conspiracty theory either! That part is a historical fact!

[pigmeat]

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Bush is a bumbling moron but it doesn't mean everyone that he's associated with is equally stupid. I love how you claim the so called Conspiracy Theories to be disproven time and time again. I've yet to hear any disclaims to the theory I support. There is no disclaiming it because it is solely based on scientific facts and not political opposition. Science is science! I hardly doubt thier going to disprove that!

As for unemployment being down I have no clue what government spun articles you read. But the truth of the matter is unemployment is high, forclosures are high, and people incomes are lower than they have ever been. Go and try to find a good job right now. It's nearly impossible! Everyone expects to pay $10-$13 an hour. How is someone supposed to live off that. Do you believe everything you read!

Maybe you need to do some research on propoganda and how governments throughout history have tried to induce their citizens to believe what they want them to believe. That isn't a conspiracty theory either! That part is a historical fact!

now i am not going to defend Bush...but come out to the west....and there are so many $28-32 an hour jobs available it is sick...no experience required.e cant get enough people to filll them..Why? you may ask...because Bush's policy on energy which has turned Utah, Wyoming, and Colorado into 3 of the strongest economies in the Nation, unlike when the tree huggers had it in a near depression

[DJDIGGLER]

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now i am not going to defend Bush...but come out to the west....and there are so many $28-32 an hour jobs available it is sick...no experience required.e cant get enough people to filll them..Why? you may ask...because Bush's policy on energy which has turned Utah, Wyoming, and Colorado into 3 of the strongest economies in the Nation, unlike when the tree huggers had it in a near depression

How do the wages match the cost of living? I'm not sure because I don't know much about the cost of living in the midwest.

The problem I see is usually wages don't match the cost of living. For instance the wages in Maryland are great if you compare them to wages around the country. Now when you figure in the fact that a basic starter condo starts in the upper $200's and houses are even higher, the wages no longer are as great as they may have seemed.

Florida's wages don't match the cost of living. an average house in florida now is in the low $200's (unless your on the east coast of Florida then it's the low $300's) whereas the wages are on average about $10-$12 an hour. Two people at that salary would barely make it buy when you figure in a $300 a month homeowners policy, and an average car payment of $250 per person.

So again unemployment might not be as high as it was, but people are more broke than they've ever been. My grandma tells me the only difference she see's between the great depression, and today, is that food is readily available. She said in all her years she can't remember another time that every single person she knew was struggling as bad as they are now. That's not the signs of a great economy by any means!

[HeHateMe]

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As for unemployment being down I have no clue what government spun articles you read. But the truth of the matter is unemployment is high, forclosures are high, and people incomes are lower than they have ever been. Go and try to find a good job right now. It's nearly impossible! Everyone expects to pay $10-$13 an hour. How is someone supposed to live off that. Do you believe everything you read!

All of the positive economic indicators that everyone lauded with praise during President Clinton's two terms in office are essentially equal to or better under Bush. We could go back and forth with various numbers, twisted this way and that way, so on and so forth, but most economic observers would agree with the fact that overall the economy has flourished under Bush.

As far as low paying jobs dominating the job market, I agree with you. But it's always been that way, it's not a new trend that has taken root during Bush's term in office. You have the have's and the have nots, and the middle class is disappearing.

LoL I feel like I'm in the Bush camp with my last few posts, and that's certainly not the case. He's certainly made his share of mistakes. I just see things as they are and do not formulate my views based on what political commentators or pundits claim to be facts.

[trip]

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9-11 goes back a little bit longer


russia invaded afganistan on xmas eve 1980

ummmmm, we supplied guns and money for tens years for the afgannies to fight them off

once russia gave up, we pulled all funding from afgan

afgannies were very po'd at us because we ummmmmmm, lied to em alot about alot of stuff, part of the perception was if we had fully supported them russia would have been gone in two years rather than ten

so, in the end, we ended up being hated because we're as we helped, covertly, we continually lied to em and let them down while they were fighting for there own freedom

thus a hatred developed against us, and over time it grew in size, thus all the terrorists acts in the 90's directly attributed to the tali/alikidee's growing in afgan


which, imho, is the big reason we never should have invaded iraq, the overall likely outlook is it would create more resentment against us

bottom line though, is we're now in a pickle with almost no good options


part of me really wishes bush would just come out and say, ummmmm, we're going to be there 10-20 years, at least then i'd think they had a f'n clue

even now, he acts like this, or is just too afraid to tell the truth, that even if things went pretty good right now, we'd likely still be there 5-7 years

i really don't think folks mind being there as much as folks dying

the absurdidty of driving down the same road every day as ied blew up is insane, uhhhhhhhhhhhh, you don't protect the roads at night, and they lay ied's down at night, and you drive down em again, and americans, die, and then you get up the next day and do it again

that's one example of absurdity we see, the makes us uncomfortable

[trip]

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on wages, the basic problem is

there aren't jobs that GURANTEE ANYTHING ANYMORE

in the past it was hey, you start at 10 bucks and after x number of years you're making 20 bucks, ie, large blue collar work force

you can climb the ladder yet you have to continually prove you're worth

also, when u go from 100 million to 300 million, the % stay the same, yet, proportionately the lower and lower middle get bigger

i will say one thing, that imho most folks lack, is initiative, i've hired so many folks that desire to do the minimum, and less, it is almost like a god from heaven bonus to find someone who exceeds expectations

and as i tell all my clients, if you go the extra mile in whatever job u do, you will be pulled up the ladder of success by folks higher than u cause they are dying to find repsonsible folks that can help them

[DJDIGGLER]

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All of the positive economic indicators that everyone lauded with praise during President Clinton's two terms in office are essentially equal to or better under Bush. We could go back and forth with various numbers, twisted this way and that way, so on and so forth, but most economic observers would agree with the fact that overall the economy has flourished under Bush.

As far as low paying jobs dominating the job market, I agree with you. But it's always been that way, it's not a new trend that has taken root during Bush's term in office. You have the have's and the have nots, and the middle class is disappearing.

LoL I feel like I'm in the Bush camp with my last few posts, and that's certainly not the case. He's certainly made his share of mistakes. I just see things as they are and do not formulate my views based on what political commentators or pundits claim to be facts.

Yeah the wages have stayed the same and that is the problem. The cost of living has skyrocketed under Bush. Under Clinton gas was .97 cents a gallon, under Bush it was at one point over $3 a gallon!!!! Waaaay higher than during the iranian crisis in the 80's.

Under Clinton Homeowners insurnace wasn't increased 1000% literally! Under Bush homeowners insurance is up 1000% in some area's making people have to foreclose and take major losses in their homes in a bottomed out real estate market! I know the argument will be natural disasters are the cause, but the true cause is insurance companies are allowed to make pilot companies in florida so when a disaster happens they take from the Florida pool only. That's not fair when the rest of the country has natural disasters of there own and are allowed to dip into a nationwide pool as opposed to a state by state pool.

Under Clinton energy costs were lower. Under Bush they are dramatically higher. And the supply and demand argument doesn't fly, because there is no way that supply and demand has changed that dramatically in a 5 year period to make costs literally triple and quadruple! It isn't even logical. It's just price gouging!

So under Bush I don't see how you claim he will be so legendary?! He devastated our countries reputation throughout the world, and devastated our economy, without even mentioning the fact that he brought our national deficit to the highest point it's ever been in history. It's unbelievable to claim this guy will be looked at in a positive light in years to come!