No time limit for soldiers?!

[MeatHead]

Re: No time limit for soldiers?!

i watched about 10 min. of the first vid this morning. i didn't have enough time to sit and watch an hour and half video. i am not going to sit here and get into a long winded argument over the war, terrorisim and our foreign policy.

I do not believe we were dooped and it was our government that staged this whole thing. There are countless aspects of our governement that i would change and there are probably a lot of things we have no idea about, but in my opinion, there is no way a scheme of that level could ever be pulled off.

yes, we did go to iraq to clear WMD from them and we have not found the substancial amount our goverment once thought, but we did have a lot of intelligence leading us to believe Sadam did have them hidden. He was was not cooperating with the UN and our government gave him plenty of time to make good on the deals we gave him. Most of the other big countries that make up the UN and did not back us, did not say he didn't have them. they just wanted to take other avenues such as sanctions, versus going over there and useing military force. We gave Saddam plenty of time to open up and let the UN inspect what they wanted to inspect.

I am not too happy with the current situaion in Iraq, so please do not confuse me with some dummy that does not think for himself. I am a conservative, when I do vote, i can not see myself ever voting Democrat for several reasons. I did and still do support the war and our troops, but i do not support the radical spending and very slow progress over the last couple years. There are several reasons why things are not getting done and both sides (US and Iraq) are to blame.

also, Bin Laden and Al Quieda (sp?) immediatly claimed the attacks. do you think that was part of the plan? Like i stated earlier, i only watched about 10 min. of the vid, what do they say about the entire war on terror?

Dude first off I'm posting about it to get other rild up about it. Then I email the link to everyone I know, post bulletins on myspace, and inform as many people as possible. If enough people had a strong enough response we figure out the next step that would get our point across.

Secondly you were brainwashed to believe that the terrorists attacked us. It's not your fault that your brainwashed, the majority of americans are, as was I. You believe what your told, and assume the media is showing you the absolute truth.

Watch this video that again I want to stress is not a anti-Republican or an anti-democrat video. It's pure facts about 9/11. After watching that I'd love for you to tell me with a straight face that 9/11 was a terrorist attack. And if you do take the time to watch it, make sure you pay attention. I can't stand when people play something, don't comprehend it, then say it's bull**** when they don't even know what they are calling bull****.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6708190071483512003&q=911+mysteries

The video is 1 hour and 30 minutes. If your a true patriot you can take that much time to learn how much you are being screwed in this country!

[DJDIGGLER]

Re: No time limit for soldiers?!

i watched about 10 min. of the first vid this morning. i didn't have enough time to sit and watch an hour and half video. i am not going to sit here and get into a long winded argument over the war, terrorisim and our foreign policy.

I do not believe we were dooped and it was our government that staged this whole thing. There are countless aspects of our governement that i would change and there are probably a lot of things we have no idea about, but in my opinion, there is no way a scheme of that level could ever be pulled off.


also, Bin Laden and Al Quieda (sp?) immediatly claimed the attacks. do you think that was part of the plan? Like i stated earlier, i only watched about 10 min. of the vid, what do they say about the entire war on terror?

I'm not even going to bother arguing with someone that isn't even patriotic enough to watch an hour and a half movie. I love how people like you think your such patriots, but that's to much time for you to invest in your country. I also love that your an expert at our government, and foreign affairs with doing virtually no research.

Why don't you take the time to actually watch the whole video and then you would see how easy it was for them to stage that attack.

Are you implying the hundreds of firemen that gave their lives on 9/11 are liars? They even said on multiple interviews, and direct radio transmissions that multiple bombs went off in the sub-basement and multiple floors. They said they were demolition style.

There were employees that said bombs were going off floor after floor after floor.

There is video with audio proof that you can hear bomb after bomb going off.

There is squibs that are the result of demolition charges clearly shown at all strategical blast points in both twin towers, clearly seen in all video's.

Bush's younger brother who ran Securacom which is the security company that did security for the twin towers shut off all the power in the towers for the weekend before 9/11, ordered all bomb sniffing dogs out, and all security was shut down when the power was out, for them to install "SO CALLED INTERNET CABLES". Mere coincidence? I think not! When you shut down security, and get rid of bomb sniffing dogs, you then make yourself virtually untraceable. They gave themself unrestrained access without any security. You don't find that odd the weekend before 9/11?

How about the towers falling because of the plane and fire?

Did you know the towers were built to withstand a direct hit from a loaded 707? A 767 hit the towers, but they weren't loaded making it less than the weight of the plane it was designed to take a hit from. In the 1940's a military plane hit the empire state building by accident, so after that they designed the buildings to withstand hits from big planes.

Also when fire is going out it smokes real bad. Did you see the giant amount of black smoke coming from the towers? That signifies an oxygen starved fire. I highly doubt that is enough to reach the 2600 degrees that is needed to make steel fail!

Did you also know that open fires are only capable of heating up to 1200 degrees at full strength? That's not even half the amount of heat needed to make the steel fail. The only thing that makes fire burn hot enough to make steel fail is a blast furnace (which is a sealed controlled fire), and thermite/ thermate which is used by the military. It can literally melt through steel in seconds.

Have you ever seen an open fire melt steel into molten metal? Watch the video's from the twin towers and watch the molten metal flowing out the sides of the building way before they collapse.

Or how about the aftermath. The steel beams left were all cut at perfect angles, just like in a controlled demolition. It's virtually impossible for all of the main beams to be cut at perfect angles in the basement from a plane hit and pockets of fire almost 100 floors up!

So again you say it's not possible? OPEN YOUR F'N EYES AND TAKE THE TIME TO WATCH THE DAMN VIDEO! UNLESS OF COURSE YOUR TO GOOD TO INVEST THE TIME IN YOUR COUNTRY! IT'S OKAY FOR OTHERS TO GIVE THEIR LIVES FOR THIS COUNTRY, BUT IT'S TO MUCH TO ASK FOR YOU TO WATCH A VIDEO SO YOU TO CAN WARN OTHERS, SO WE CAN GET OUR SOLDIERS HOME AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE!


Oh, and for the record there are already DE-CLASSIFIED (which means military documents available to the public) documents admitting that our government has staged terror attacks in the past in order to make the american public mad enough to go to war.

Don't believe me, check it up yourself. How about you start by looking up "The gulf of Tonken". After you open your eyes a little more after checking that up and realize that our government has many times before duped us into war, I'll give you a whole slew of document names you can look up.

Hey there's nothing wrong with being uninformed. But when you blatantly ignore it, that is ignorant. Don't be like the ignorant masses that refuse to have a brain of their own. Don't be a brainwashed fool. Be a leader, not a follower!

[kite]

Re: No time limit for soldiers?!

I don't know DJ. I think it's certainly possible that the gov't knew more about a pending attack and didn't do anything. I don't buy into the whole conspiracy thing though. You could pick apart all sorts of shi-t and examine the little details individually and form a conspiracy theory. IMO the vast majority of these folks are pretty out there. That being said, I also believe that we are kept in the dark and given bullshi-t blanket explainations for all sorts of things that go on in this country as well as the world. I'm deffinately not some mindless robot who just accepts whatever info is put out there, but I'm not a paranoid conspiracy theorists who thinks my house is bugged, my emails are read, and my asshole contains some sort of GPS system for my every motion to be tracked. On subjects like this, I think it's like pretty much anything else, it's a balancing act. It's not all that bad, it's not all that good.

[DJDIGGLER]

Re: No time limit for soldiers?!

Kite it's not a theory if it is proveable.

Second, how do you explain government de-classified documents admitting we have sponsored terror sometimes self inflicted in order to get public approval of war? That's not a theory, IT'S FREAKING DE-CLASSIFIED, AS IN ACTUAL GOVERNMENT DOCUMENT!

Third, Why don't you watch that video I posted. All of you that are so sure of your facts, I think are afraid to learn the truth. Why is it so hard to watch the video? It's not boring by any means, and it will bring every aspect to life.

Also it's like you just briefly summed up everything I said and just gave a quick reply. If your so sure about your beliefs, why don't you take two seconds and shoot down each thing I said one by one.

and then go ahead and tell all of those firefighters that they are a bunch of liars and conspiracy theorists. THEY DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT MUCH! THE INTERVIEWS WERE WITHIN HOURS OF THE TOWERS FALLING. THESE PEOPLE SIMPLY STATED WHAT THEY HEARD AND SAW. SO IS EVERYONE THAT IS SAYING SOMETHING CONTRARY TO THE GOVERNMENTS STORY NOW A CONSPIRACY THEORIST?

It's so frustrating how naive everyone is!

[T-Man007]

Re: No time limit for soldiers?!

I'm not even going to bother arguing with someone that isn't even patriotic enough to watch an hour and a half movie. I love how people like you think your such patriots, but that's to much time for you to invest in your country. I also love that your an expert at our government, and foreign affairs with doing virtually no research.

Why don't you take the time to actually watch the whole video and then you would see how easy it was for them to stage that attack.

Are you implying the hundreds of firemen that gave their lives on 9/11 are liars? They even said on multiple interviews, and direct radio transmissions that multiple bombs went off in the sub-basement and multiple floors. They said they were demolition style.

There were employees that said bombs were going off floor after floor after floor.

There is video with audio proof that you can hear bomb after bomb going off.

There is squibs that are the result of demolition charges clearly shown at all strategical blast points in both twin towers, clearly seen in all video's.

Bush's younger brother who ran Securacom which is the security company that did security for the twin towers shut off all the power in the towers for the weekend before 9/11, ordered all bomb sniffing dogs out, and all security was shut down when the power was out, for them to install "SO CALLED INTERNET CABLES". Mere coincidence? I think not! When you shut down security, and get rid of bomb sniffing dogs, you then make yourself virtually untraceable. They gave themself unrestrained access without any security. You don't find that odd the weekend before 9/11?

How about the towers falling because of the plane and fire?

Did you know the towers were built to withstand a direct hit from a loaded 707? A 767 hit the towers, but they weren't loaded making it less than the weight of the plane it was designed to take a hit from. In the 1940's a military plane hit the empire state building by accident, so after that they designed the buildings to withstand hits from big planes.

Also when fire is going out it smokes real bad. Did you see the giant amount of black smoke coming from the towers? That signifies an oxygen starved fire. I highly doubt that is enough to reach the 2600 degrees that is needed to make steel fail!

Did you also know that open fires are only capable of heating up to 1200 degrees at full strength? That's not even half the amount of heat needed to make the steel fail. The only thing that makes fire burn hot enough to make steel fail is a blast furnace (which is a sealed controlled fire), and thermite/ thermate which is used by the military. It can literally melt through steel in seconds.

Have you ever seen an open fire melt steel into molten metal? Watch the video's from the twin towers and watch the molten metal flowing out the sides of the building way before they collapse.

Or how about the aftermath. The steel beams left were all cut at perfect angles, just like in a controlled demolition. It's virtually impossible for all of the main beams to be cut at perfect angles in the basement from a plane hit and pockets of fire almost 100 floors up!

So again you say it's not possible? OPEN YOUR F'N EYES AND TAKE THE TIME TO WATCH THE DAMN VIDEO! UNLESS OF COURSE YOUR TO GOOD TO INVEST THE TIME IN YOUR COUNTRY! IT'S OKAY FOR OTHERS TO GIVE THEIR LIVES FOR THIS COUNTRY, BUT IT'S TO MUCH TO ASK FOR YOU TO WATCH A VIDEO SO YOU TO CAN WARN OTHERS, SO WE CAN GET OUR SOLDIERS HOME AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE!


Oh, and for the record there are already DE-CLASSIFIED (which means military documents available to the public) documents admitting that our government has staged terror attacks in the past in order to make the american public mad enough to go to war.

Don't believe me, check it up yourself. How about you start by looking up "The gulf of Tonken". After you open your eyes a little more after checking that up and realize that our government has many times before duped us into war, I'll give you a whole slew of document names you can look up.

Hey there's nothing wrong with being uninformed. But when you blatantly ignore it, that is ignorant. Don't be like the ignorant masses that refuse to have a brain of their own. Don't be a brainwashed fool. Be a leader, not a follower!

DJ, chill out on the Patriotic crap! Just because someone doesn't want to waste 90 minutes watchin some video doesn't give you the right to question their patriotism, got it?

This is the stuff that starts ****. Just because someone doesn't watch a video in no way what so ever measures their loyalty to this country. What if I said you weren't a patriot because you go out of your way to find problems with the government. Would that be true? No! So, stop telling people htye have less patiotism than you because they won't watch your video!

[T-Man007]

Re: No time limit for soldiers?!

And everyone needs to stop with the bull**** name calling, calling someone naive, ignorant, blinded or brainwashed just because they don't see things the way you do is just another form of flaming. Basically you are calling that person a dumbass because they idsagree with you and I've had enough of it! From now on, if people can't debate without insult, and that includes calling people ignorant, then that will be considered flaming. You collect information the way you want and you believe what you want and let others believe what they want. This is a Fitness Board, not an anti-government recruiting site. If you want to bash the government, they go ahead, but don't call anyone anything because they don't buy into your beliefs. It's no different that a Christian calling an atheist ignorant for not believing. Got it?

[DJDIGGLER]

Re: No time limit for soldiers?!

And everyone needs to stop with the bull**** name calling, calling someone naive, ignorant, blinded or brainwashed just because they don't see things the way you do is just another form of flaming. Basically you are calling that person a dumbass because they idsagree with you and I've had enough of it! From now on, if people can't debate without insult, and that includes calling people ignorant, then that will be considered flaming. You collect information the way you want and you believe what you want and let others believe what they want. This is a Fitness Board, not an anti-government recruiting site. If you want to bash the government, they go ahead, but don't call anyone anything because they don't buy into your beliefs. It's no different that a Christian calling an atheist ignorant for not believing. Got it?

How is calling someone naive flaming? You've called me many many things before. Need I start pulling up old threads and providing links to prove it?

I call people brainwashed and all of those things, when they refuse to atleast do so research and look at it from both sides of view. Then when they debate they are educated enough to make informed arguments rather than one sided brainwashed blasts.

And don't go off telling me this is a fitnessboard and not a anti-government recruiting site! We have a political section for a reason. I didn't think politics involved doing shrugs, and talking about protein shakes! If you don't want political debates, talk to Fuzo about dropping that thread. But while a thread for it exists, I as well as everyone else on this board has the right to use it!

Another thing you constantly bash me about not having the same views religiously so obviously you don't get it!

Also before you start pointing fingers claiming I'm flaming you or anyone else, how about you look stuff up in the dicitionary to read their definitions before you start accusing people of things!

Calling someone ignorant is not calling them dumb! Actually Ignorant, Blind, Brainwashed are all words that I'm using to imply that you are not seeing things with an open mind. You are blind to the facts, you are ignorant to the facts, you are brainwashed to not use the brain god gave you and open your eyes. I don't see one of those statements used in a fashion to call you dumb, so don't sit there and accuse me or put words in my mouth to make yourself look all holy, and make me look like a jerk.

Your just pissed off that you can't shoot anything down I say. So you react the same way anyone does when they lose a match. You react with anger! Oh and just so you know, by saying you lost the match is not calling you a loser, but you'd probably rather have had me say that you were the second winner right?

Political Correctness! Definitely a Republican thing!!!!

[T-Man007]

Re: No time limit for soldiers?!

How is calling someone naive flaming? You've called me many many things before. Need I start pulling up old threads and providing links to prove it?

I call people brainwashed and all of those things, when they refuse to atleast do so research and look at it from both sides of view. Then when they debate they are educated enough to make informed arguments rather than one sided brainwashed blasts.

And don't go off telling me this is a fitnessboard and not a anti-government recruiting site! We have a political section for a reason. I didn't think politics involved doing shrugs, and talking about protein shakes! If you don't want political debates, talk to Fuzo about dropping that thread. But while a thread for it exists, I as well as everyone else on this board has the right to use it!

Another thing you constantly bash me about not having the same views religiously so obviously you don't get it!

Also before you start pointing fingers claiming I'm flaming you or anyone else, how about you look stuff up in the dicitionary to read their definitions before you start accusing people of things!

Calling someone ignorant is not calling them dumb! Actually Ignorant, Blind, Brainwashed are all words that I'm using to imply that you are not seeing things with an open mind. You are blind to the facts, you are ignorant to the facts, you are brainwashed to not use the brain god gave you and open your eyes. I don't see one of those statements used in a fashion to call you dumb, so don't sit there and accuse me or put words in my mouth to make yourself look all holy, and make me look like a jerk.

Your just pissed off that you can't shoot anything down I say. So you react the same way anyone does when they lose a match. You react with anger! Oh and just so you know, by saying you lost the match is not calling you a loser, but you'd probably rather have had me say that you were the second winner right?

Political Correctness! Definitely a Republican thing!!!!

New rule! You don't like it, leave!

[daved150]

Re: No time limit for soldiers?!

I call people brainwashed and all of those things, when they refuse to atleast do so research and look at it from both sides of view. Then when they debate they are educated enough to make informed arguments rather than one sided brainwashed blasts.

dj, i can honestly say i tried to look at it from all sides. i tried to watch all the video's, the movie's and read any thing i could. i tried. i just dont buy it....i dont buy any of it...sorry, i disagree with you on the conspiracy of 9/11, 110%. i do believe that fanatical muslims hate us. i do believe that they would do what was done. and, this you should see the point in, our government is waaaaay to f'ed up to pull that off!!! none of it would've went down. the same people that you suggest are to incompedant to clean up a city after a little rain, they had there sh!t together enough to do this??? no-way, no-how...brainwashed? i guess, nieve? whatever....at least i certainly have a grip on what our goverment could, or could not pull off.

[DJDIGGLER]

Re: No time limit for soldiers?!

dj, i can honestly say i tried to look at it from all sides. i tried to watch all the video's, the movie's and read any thing i could. i tried. i just dont buy it....i dont buy any of it...sorry, i disagree with you on the conspiracy of 9/11, 110%. i do believe that fanatical muslims hate us. i do believe that they would do what was done. and, this you should see the point in, our government is waaaaay to f'ed up to pull that off!!! none of it would've went down. the same people that you suggest are to incompedant to clean up a city after a little rain, they had there sh!t together enough to do this??? no-way, no-how...brainwashed? i guess, nieve? whatever....at least i certainly have a grip on what our goverment could, or could not pull off.

I didn't buy it either until I saw the video I posted. I've watched many myself and it just didn't add up right. Not only that but most seemed like a desperate attempt to bash Republicans. That to me is kind of a biased view, because they have an agenda.

The video I posted however had no bias, and never even mentioned bush. They state specific scientific facts AND have actual interviews and video's from that day. This video is the one that definitely strayed my thinking to believing it was planned.

Did you watch the video I'm referring to? If not give it a shot, I bet you'll be surprised about all of the things you learn.

[solidground]

Re: No time limit for soldiers?!

dj, i can honestly say i tried to look at it from all sides. i tried to watch all the video's, the movie's and read any thing i could. i tried. i just dont buy it....i dont buy any of it...sorry, i disagree with you on the conspiracy of 9/11, 110%. i do believe that fanatical muslims hate us. i do believe that they would do what was done. and, this you should see the point in, our government is waaaaay to f'ed up to pull that off!!! none of it would've went down. the same people that you suggest are to incompedant to clean up a city after a little rain, they had there sh!t together enough to do this??? no-way, no-how...brainwashed? i guess, nieve? whatever....at least i certainly have a grip on what our goverment could, or could not pull off.

your the first person ive ever heard say that--atleast you tried to see the other side though..its a hard pill to swallow for some even after looking at other evidence..Id like to know what videos you watched though--probably the first loose change??It's not directly govt that has pulled this off or bush in any way..If you live in this world then at some level your brainwashed period.

For those of you who dont think were being tracked your just wrong.. RFID chips are a realit and are gonna be even more prevelant in a few yrs..mach 3 razors and other normal iteams that you would buy have them already, along with passports and many states id's.. 2008 when we have noational id card those will have rfids too.

[MeatHead]

Re: No time limit for soldiers?!

watching a show, made by a guy who has no credibility, hardly constitutes as being a patriot.

so, like i asked, what about the terrorists in the middle east that claimed the attacks? are they in on it too? are they really our enemies?

i am done with this argument.

I'm not even going to bother arguing with someone that isn't even patriotic enough to watch an hour and a half movie. I love how people like you think your such patriots, but that's to much time for you to invest in your country. I also love that your an expert at our government, and foreign affairs with doing virtually no research.

Why don't you take the time to actually watch the whole video and then you would see how easy it was for them to stage that attack.

Are you implying the hundreds of firemen that gave their lives on 9/11 are liars? They even said on multiple interviews, and direct radio transmissions that multiple bombs went off in the sub-basement and multiple floors. They said they were demolition style.

There were employees that said bombs were going off floor after floor after floor.

There is video with audio proof that you can hear bomb after bomb going off.

There is squibs that are the result of demolition charges clearly shown at all strategical blast points in both twin towers, clearly seen in all video's.

Bush's younger brother who ran Securacom which is the security company that did security for the twin towers shut off all the power in the towers for the weekend before 9/11, ordered all bomb sniffing dogs out, and all security was shut down when the power was out, for them to install "SO CALLED INTERNET CABLES". Mere coincidence? I think not! When you shut down security, and get rid of bomb sniffing dogs, you then make yourself virtually untraceable. They gave themself unrestrained access without any security. You don't find that odd the weekend before 9/11?

How about the towers falling because of the plane and fire?

Did you know the towers were built to withstand a direct hit from a loaded 707? A 767 hit the towers, but they weren't loaded making it less than the weight of the plane it was designed to take a hit from. In the 1940's a military plane hit the empire state building by accident, so after that they designed the buildings to withstand hits from big planes.

Also when fire is going out it smokes real bad. Did you see the giant amount of black smoke coming from the towers? That signifies an oxygen starved fire. I highly doubt that is enough to reach the 2600 degrees that is needed to make steel fail!

Did you also know that open fires are only capable of heating up to 1200 degrees at full strength? That's not even half the amount of heat needed to make the steel fail. The only thing that makes fire burn hot enough to make steel fail is a blast furnace (which is a sealed controlled fire), and thermite/ thermate which is used by the military. It can literally melt through steel in seconds.

Have you ever seen an open fire melt steel into molten metal? Watch the video's from the twin towers and watch the molten metal flowing out the sides of the building way before they collapse.

Or how about the aftermath. The steel beams left were all cut at perfect angles, just like in a controlled demolition. It's virtually impossible for all of the main beams to be cut at perfect angles in the basement from a plane hit and pockets of fire almost 100 floors up!

So again you say it's not possible? OPEN YOUR F'N EYES AND TAKE THE TIME TO WATCH THE DAMN VIDEO! UNLESS OF COURSE YOUR TO GOOD TO INVEST THE TIME IN YOUR COUNTRY! IT'S OKAY FOR OTHERS TO GIVE THEIR LIVES FOR THIS COUNTRY, BUT IT'S TO MUCH TO ASK FOR YOU TO WATCH A VIDEO SO YOU TO CAN WARN OTHERS, SO WE CAN GET OUR SOLDIERS HOME AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE!


Oh, and for the record there are already DE-CLASSIFIED (which means military documents available to the public) documents admitting that our government has staged terror attacks in the past in order to make the american public mad enough to go to war.

Don't believe me, check it up yourself. How about you start by looking up "The gulf of Tonken". After you open your eyes a little more after checking that up and realize that our government has many times before duped us into war, I'll give you a whole slew of document names you can look up.

Hey there's nothing wrong with being uninformed. But when you blatantly ignore it, that is ignorant. Don't be like the ignorant masses that refuse to have a brain of their own. Don't be a brainwashed fool. Be a leader, not a follower!

[solidground]

Re: No time limit for soldiers?!

no credibilty..??not sure who your talking about but alex jones has over 30 million listeners..and if your speaking about the people in 9-11 mystery, they are all professionals and are respected in their fields.bin laden never claimed 9-11 research it..of course terrorists exist -its where they get their funding and training that is shady,,mohammed atta was a known double agent who lived in florida for 8 yrs before 9-11

watching a show, made by a guy who has no credibility, hardly constitutes as being a patriot.

so, like i asked, what about the terrorists in the middle east that claimed the attacks? are they in on it too? are they really our enemies?

i am done with this argument.

[DJDIGGLER]

Re: No time limit for soldiers?!

watching a show, made by a guy who has no credibility, hardly constitutes as being a patriot.

so, like i asked, what about the terrorists in the middle east that claimed the attacks? are they in on it too? are they really our enemies?

i am done with this argument.

It's not a show made by a guy. Actually it's a woman I believe. Secondly all of the people in the film have credibility. Are you saying that the firemen that are interviewed the day of 9/11 and after are not credible? What reason would they have to lie? What about the employees of the WTC building that survived why aren't they credible? What about tenants of the WTC whom are well respected in their fields, why aren't they credible?

If your implying people are wrong and not credible because they say something other than what you want to hear, then I guess you would be right. But otherwise these people are well respected people, that have nothing to gain by saying this stuff!

Furthermore, I'd like for you to explain to me how the videos in that documentary I'm speaking of are not credible? It's the same video's that all of the major media networks played. How are they not credible?

About the terrorists, I avoided that question because I felt like I would be arguing till I was blue in the face until you actually watched the video. Once you watched the video you would understand exactly what I'm talking about.

Another thing for the record, I'm not trying to argue with you, I'm simply debating with you.

[DJDIGGLER]

Re: No time limit for soldiers?!

dj, i can honestly say i tried to look at it from all sides. i tried to watch all the video's, the movie's and read any thing i could. i tried. i just dont buy it....i dont buy any of it...sorry, i disagree with you on the conspiracy of 9/11, 110%. i do believe that fanatical muslims hate us. i do believe that they would do what was done. and, this you should see the point in, our government is waaaaay to f'ed up to pull that off!!! none of it would've went down. the same people that you suggest are to incompedant to clean up a city after a little rain, they had there sh!t together enough to do this??? no-way, no-how...brainwashed? i guess, nieve? whatever....at least i certainly have a grip on what our goverment could, or could not pull off.

Look at it as a form of corporate restructuring. New Orleans was crime ridden before Katrina, and the rich are slowly taking it over. All of the people that left don't have the money to go back home, so in a sense those same people felt it was an easy way to "Clean things up" by letting that happen. Far fetched, Maybe.

Just as far fetched as it was for Saddam to have the capabilities of WMD's. But that's a whole different subject.