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I would put money on it that that at least the long range missle was shot down. For all we and Japan know, it could've been the real deal and N.Korea was just calling it a "test". We dont know it that missle had a live warhead or not, and I'm not willing to take the chance that it isnt.
Great point, and I think that's why Japan is trying to locate them. If in fact they have live warheads you can bet your butt them boys in Iraq will be getting a "Get out of Hell Free" Card.
I used to have superhuman powers....until my therapist took them away.
Excuse me but why are we involving other countries into this mess with N.Korea. Bush is scared now and is asking for international help. N.Korea would not use these missles on other countries I know this for sure, only on us. Bush sounds pathetic and scared IMHO and is making the country feel and look like bunch of pussies. What is all this talk about USA being the most powerful country ??
I'm sorry but someone needs to shut up our ****sucking president. I am %100 sure that we will not have any countries backing us up, maybe England.
We go and invade small , poor countries but are scared to go into battles with powerful countries. Thats just great. If they use missles on us, then I'm sure there IS something we can use on them.
No, no, no, Bush is not scared. As a matter of fact, the day N Korea announced it would be testing the rockets Austrailia, Japan and England stated there would be consequences. Trust me bro, Bush doesn't need anyone's help. The only reason other countries are getting involved is because they know for a fact that N Korea has nuclear power and they know for a fact that they are testing long range weapons. This has nothing to do with Bush being scared but the world recognizing that if N. Korea gets one off and it lands the nuclear fallout will effect millions and millions of people. And, you can bet your ass is this country is nuked we will retaliate and wipe those phukers off the planet. That would bring nuclear fallout upon Japan, China, S. Korea, Russia, Indonessia and many other countries. It effects everyone, not just us.
And what small poor countries did we invade? You wouldn't be referring to those countries in teh middle east which are full of billionaire sheiks from all the oil. Make no mistake, the middle east is far from poor. They have most of the oil and they profit very well from that. Now, if we were invading Somalia, that would be a poor little country.
I used to have superhuman powers....until my therapist took them away.
What I don't understand is other countries are NOT allowed to have any nuclear weapons or any modern weapons but we do have all this.. how come ?
Actually, others do have it. USA, Russia, England, Austrailia, Japan, China and India. There may be more but each of these countries does in fact have nuclear weapons. They have less because after the cold war died down we all agreed to reduce our arsenals and we did. None of us eliminated them, just reduced them. Russia and China figured it out and we gave the info to England, Austrailia and India. I think Germany has it too, but don't quote me on that.
Well, ok, we didn't give it to India but when Britain used to control India they established the ablitly to launch from there. Britain originally took up place in India to control shipping trade. Then, when the realization of Jewels and Gold came about they took over the country officially in the early 1800's. India didn't receive it's Independence until 1947 (after WWII) and by that point they had already been recognized as allies with America and they had the same weapon technology that England had. Now, I don't know exactly what year we were able to launch nukes but the ability to make them goes backinto the 40's. As soon as rockets were made reliable then nuclear rockets were born. Since India fought with the allies in WWII they were allowed to continue to research nuclear technology. So, even though it was meant for England, India has it today. Which is comforting because they keep the middle east cornered. They have the east, Isreal has the north and we would come in from the west and south.
Excuse me but why are we involving other countries into this mess with N.Korea. Bush is scared now and is asking for international help. N.Korea would not use these missles on other countries I know this for sure, only on us. Bush sounds pathetic and scared IMHO and is making the country feel and look like bunch of pussies. What is all this talk about USA being the most powerful country ??
I'm sorry but someone needs to shut up our ****sucking president. I am %100 sure that we will not have any countries backing us up, maybe England.
We go and invade small , poor countries but are scared to go into battles with powerful countries. Thats just great. If they use missles on us, then I'm sure there IS something we can use on them.
That's about the dumbest thing I've read all week. Get past your little hatred for Bush and look at the big picture already.
I dont see the big deal...we are allowed to have weapons to protect ourslfes, or deter others from invading, but we dont think anyone else should be allowed? comon...why the **** not? I mean, does the us not remember WWII? What we did to japan was the largest act of terorism in worl history....Millions of civilians died because we nuke there ass.....and the Us is worried about someone else using a weapon of mass destruction...as far as i know, we are the only ones that have ever commited such a horrid war crime
I dont see the big deal...we are allowed to have weapons to protect ourslfes, or deter others from invading, but we dont think anyone else should be allowed? comon...why the **** not? I mean, does the us not remember WWII? What we did to japan was the largest act of terorism in worl history....Millions of civilians died because we nuke there ass.....and the Us is worried about someone else using a weapon of mass destruction...as far as i know, we are the only ones that have ever commited such a horrid war crime
Seriously? Did you forget that Japan attacked us? Did you know that our military knew that Germany was sending jet powered planes to Japan and if we didn't stop them soon we wouldn't be able to. War crime? Do you even know the deffinition of war crime? The atom bomb was not a war crime, it was an ending to the war, period. The reason someone like N. Korea should not have it is because they will use just for the hell of it and not to stop a World War. Extreme situations call for extreme actions and the atom bomd ended Japan's roll in the war. It was a necessary evil. If you want to talk about war crimes then read your history and see what the Japs did to our POWs. They would put them in bomb shelters and burn them alive. That's a war crime. Those soldiers suffered severly while the people who got hit by the atom bomb never felt a thing. A military weapon is not terrorism, it's war. Japan started a war with us and we finished it. That is not the deffinition of terrorism. Terrorism is using violence or the threat of violence for ideological or political reasons. Terrorism is not bombing a country after they attack you. That's self defense!
I used to have superhuman powers....until my therapist took them away.
And, the most horrid war crime is by far what ****** did to the Jews. The Jews never attacked Germany, did they? Yet you say us nuking Japan after they attacked and killed thousands of Americnas is the most horrid crime ever. You gotta be kidding me, right? Even Saddam killed thousands of his own people. You think that's better than us ending Japan's role in WWII? I think you need to read some history and see what other countries did in the past. The nuke was legal and necessary. Period. If was illegal, then that would be a different story, but it wasn't.
I used to have superhuman powers....until my therapist took them away.
so, if Iraq insurgents sent a bunch of dirty bombs over here and nuked all of our cities you wouldnt call it aan act of terrorism? Yeah right....same deal...we attacked them, they are defending themselves.
Plain and simple...the atom bombs killed millions of civilians.... CIVILIANS!!!!! not ARMED sOLDIERS....purposely!! That in my book, and the rules in the Geneva convention makes it a hoorid crime!
Just an FYI...Us has invaded/occupied more countries than any one else....we are the big threat to most of the world...not North Korea
Oh, and i am not anti American or anything else.....I served 4 years active duty, and 4 years reserve.....i just say things how i see it.....I cant believe we are allowed to possess weapons, but NK cant?
so, if Iraq insurgents sent a bunch of dirty bombs over here and nuked all of our cities you wouldnt call it aan act of terrorism? Yeah right....same deal...we attacked them, they are defending themselves.
Plain and simple...the atom bombs killed millions of civilians.... CIVILIANS!!!!! not ARMED sOLDIERS....purposely!! That in my book, and the rules in the Geneva convention makes it a hoorid crime!
Just an FYI...Us has invaded/occupied more countries than any one else....we are the big threat to most of the world...not North Korea
Oh wow, you got your facts WAY wrong bro. Both bombs in Japan only killed like 200,000 people, not millions. These were atom bombs, not the type of nukes we have today. And, the use of atomic bombs were NOT illegal by Geneva rules at that time. The deffinition of 'crime' is an illegal act. Since atomic bombs were not illegal to use, there was no crime. Period. Ok, another thing, dirty bombs are different than nukes because they are designed to leak radiation, not detonate. Would I call it terrorism, yes, because the use of nuclear power as a weapon is against Geneva rules today. Were as it wasn't when we used them. That's the difference. I don't know where you get the invaded/occupied stuff. Name one country we invaded, besides Iraq, that wasn't either defense or a request by other nations. WWI, we were asked to fight, so that doesn't count. WWII, Japan attacked us before we ever put one soldier into action. And, we were asked to help in Europe, so that doesn't count. Korean war we went to help S Korea from being attacked by N Korea, so that doesn't count. Vietnam, we went to help the south from being attacked by the north, so that doesn't count. First gulf war we went to help little Quait from being attacked by Iraq, so that doesn't count. Afghanistan, we went because Al-Qaida was there and they attacked us first, so that doesn't count. Now, take Bosnia (Bill Clinton) and Iraq (Bush) and that's the only two invasions I see that weren't called for. However, let's not forget the reason why we went to Iraq, some dumb ass British intelligence buy reported they had WMD. After we invaded Iraq, based on his intel, and it was discovered that there weren't weapons, he killed himself. Period. So, it looks to me that the only legitimate unwarranted invasion was Clintons. You can't blame Bush for relying on bad intel, he trusts Tony Blair and he believed too and has soldiers there as well. So, your FYI about the US invading/occuping more countries than anyone is just wrong. The fact, is that England has invaded and occupied more countries than anyone. Read some history bro, it's common knowledge that England has invaded and occupied over 20 different countries during their reign. The US is no where near that. LOL
I used to have superhuman powers....until my therapist took them away.
Oh, and i am not anti American or anything else.....I served 4 years active duty, and 4 years reserve.....i just say things how i see it.....I cant believe we are allowed to possess weapons, but NK cant?
I'm not saying you aren't patriotic, but you do point a lot of fingers at the US. However, based on your comments, which I addressed above, it's obvious that your opinons are based on lack of knowledge of history. Sorry, but it's the truth. Everything you said in your previous post was 100% innaccurate according to historical facts. I think if you had the real facts you wouldn't be stating things like 'millions of civilians killed' and the US has 'occupied/invaded more coutries than anyone else'. That's absolutely innacurate.
I used to have superhuman powers....until my therapist took them away.
214,000 total and that includes those who dies later as a result of radiation. As you can see, it's no where near a million, or even the millions you claim it was. And, if you read the whole thing you will see that it wasn't just the US, but that England and Canada assisted us in the design. You act like we did this without anyone knowing about it and it was some aweful thing. Everyone of the allies knew we were going to do it, they just didn't know when. So, if you are going to point fingers, then point at all three! War is war and cilvillians get killed. It's a fact of life. No war has ever taken place and not had a civilian casualty. It's funny how you are so pissed at America for the atom bomb but the people who suffered it, the Japanese, absolutely love and support America.
If we didn`t bomb Japan we would have invaded it. The plan was for Russia to take the northern half and America to take the southern half. Initial estimates at American casulities 500,000. And who knows how the men and espically women would have fared in the hands of the Russians. If American casulities were to be half a million, how many Japanese would have died?
Using the Atom bomb to end the war in Japan was, in hindsight, one of if not the most humane way to end the war.
The real question is did we need to drop two bombs. That you might debate. The common story that I`ve heard from people who know things is that we dropped the first one to show the Japanese that the war was over. Simply put the new technology could kill YOUR ENTIRE POPLUATION. Time to capitluate with honor.
The second bomb was dropped (according to many) to tell the Russians that we could duplicate this tech and use it if they tried anything in Europe. Bear in mind at this time the Russian military forces in Europe were MASSIVE, way more powerful than the western Allies combined. That plus Stalin was evil so of course he only respected the language of power.
So the question to debate, if you wish do debate it at all is this. If we dropped the first bomb to knock Japan out of the war. Did we have to drop the second one IN JAPAN to educate the Russians? Could we instead have dropped it in the Pacific with Russian observers? THAT is the question.
And one more thing, if the Iraqis were able to bomb the US right now. It would not be terrorism because this "insurgency" we keep hearing about on the news is actually a "war". War is war, and in war people get bombed. Terrorism is a term our media uses to try and downgrade the image of the enemy. Pisses me off. Yeah, their style of war is different - it seems to give us some trouble frankly. The Vietnamese had a different style too, we called that Terrorism too but wat was Vietnam if not a war?
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