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  • #31
    Re: Who do you think is gonna run in 2008?

    Im glad you all brought up the ethanol alot of people have never even heard of that or who say you were crazy if you told them that.

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    • #32
      Re: Who do you think is gonna run in 2008?

      Middle class people are the ones who get fucked the most when it comes to illegal aliens....driving down good wages, increased taxes, crime in their neighborhoods, funding college for their kids just to begin with. This sht pisses me off more then anything when some fucker from another country gets paid to go to school here and kids that their parents worked and paid taxes their whole lives have to scrape and bend to send kids to college because the tuition is sky rocketing its big business now and they make enough money to not meet federal guidelines for tuition but by not enough to actually fund kids college tuition. We as a society just have to evolve with it unfortunately. I think if a person never loses their determination and desire they will always be successful in life regardless of the situation.

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      • #33
        Re: Who do you think is gonna run in 2008?

        Originally posted by Equalizer
        Middle class people are the ones who get fucked the most when it comes to illegal aliens....driving down good wages, increased taxes, crime in their neighborhoods, funding college for their kids just to begin with. This sht pisses me off more then anything when some fucker from another country gets paid to go to school here and kids that their parents worked and paid taxes their whole lives have to scrape and bend to send kids to college because the tuition is sky rocketing its big business now and they make enough money to not meet federal guidelines for tuition but by not enough to actually fund kids college tuition. We as a society just have to evolve with it unfortunately. I think if a person never loses their determination and desire they will always be successful in life regardless of the situation.
        That's why an immagrant is 8 times more likely to be successful than an American. We get up everyday and say "big deal", the immagrant gets up everyday and says "what a deal" and they go for it. (Zig Ziglar quote) The immagrant gets more favors in some areas which does piss me off. You can come to this country and start a business and get tax breaks that Americans don't get. The theory is it helps because they bring money into the country, but the truth is that it does nothing. Ever see a new Chinese reastaurant open, who works there? All Chinese people. Most of the people who come here and open a business hire their own family and friends and keep the moeny circulating between them. If anyone should get a break it should be teh American born small business owner. You know he'll keep the money in this country.
        I used to have superhuman powers....until my therapist took them away.

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        • #34
          Re: Who do you think is gonna run in 2008?

          Another thing to note in my area A LOT OF THESE IMMIGRANTS ARE INVOLVED IN ORGANIZED CRIME! The are arrestedd around here all the time selling massive qtys of drugs as well being involed in other criminal activities.. You know what? all they do is get sent back to where they're from but come right back and do it again. Look some of these gangs up..MS13 is pretty big... anything w/ a 13 is usually in reference to the mexican mafia... So they are all makng a so called honest dollar doing landscaping they are also circulating drugs as wel. this is all info from the chief of police in my town... Im not sure if it's the same where you live but the immigrants are definately a problem in my area and surrounding area.... I saw a map where most of these mex ganga are located and its in a city or a city suburb.. uw ont find them in the sticks.

          as long as Bush is in office I dont see us using any other sources of fuel. as far as ethanol being cleaner, bush doesnt give a shit about the environment. Hes a hard man to respect.


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          • #35
            Re: Who do you think is gonna run in 2008?

            Originally posted by Skarhead
            Another thing to note in my area A LOT OF THESE IMMIGRANTS ARE INVOLVED IN ORGANIZED CRIME! The are arrestedd around here all the time selling massive qtys of drugs as well being involed in other criminal activities.. You know what? all they do is get sent back to where they're from but come right back and do it again. Look some of these gangs up..MS13 is pretty big... anything w/ a 13 is usually in reference to the mexican mafia... So they are all makng a so called honest dollar doing landscaping they are also circulating drugs as wel. this is all info from the chief of police in my town... Im not sure if it's the same where you live but the immigrants are definately a problem in my area and surrounding area.... I saw a map where most of these mex ganga are located and its in a city or a city suburb.. uw ont find them in the sticks.

            as long as Bush is in office I dont see us using any other sources of fuel. as far as ethanol being cleaner, bush doesnt give a shit about the environment. Hes a hard man to respect.

            Well it's money, very simpley money. There are no people lobbing for ethonol and if there were they could never hope to fight against oil and coal companys. He gets a heck of a lot of money and other support from these companys.

            Just like him saying, "Lets drill in Alaska." That is not solving the problem, if you want to end the middle east end exporting and importing anything to them. That would end it all and non of good peoples blood would be shed, but then again there is no money in that is there?

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            • #36
              Re: Who do you think is gonna run in 2008?

              Originally posted by jackson vile
              Well it's money, very simpley money. There are no people lobbing for ethonol and if there were they could never hope to fight against oil and coal companys. He gets a heck of a lot of money and other support from these companys.

              Just like him saying, "Lets drill in Alaska." That is not solving the problem, if you want to end the middle east end exporting and importing anything to them. That would end it all and non of good peoples blood would be shed, but then again there is no money in that is there?
              i know bro... it is all about the $$ , but a real patriot prez would look past the $ and do whats good for the country not his wallet. With the higest respect to the soldiers in Iraq i cant say i would ever join them if i were drafted or enlisted just b/c i dont think my life is worth george bush's agenda.


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              • #37
                Re: Who do you think is gonna run in 2008?

                Originally posted by Skarhead
                i know bro... it is all about the $$ , but a real patriot prez would look past the $ and do whats good for the country not his wallet. With the higest respect to the soldiers in Iraq i cant say i would ever join them if i were drafted or enlisted just b/c i dont think my life is worth george bush's agenda.
                Couldn't have said it better myself! If they do a draft I'm taking my fiancee's Canadien citizenship and becoming a chanuck!

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                • #38
                  Re: Who do you think is gonna run in 2008?

                  Originally posted by jackson vile
                  Just like him saying, "Lets drill in Alaska." That is not solving the problem, if you want to end the middle east end exporting and importing anything to them. That would end it all and non of good peoples blood would be shed, but then again there is no money in that is there?
                  Actually, that would solve the problem. We don't have enough resources to completely cut off the import of oil from the Middle East without drilling in Alaska. If we could drill there then we would have enough supply to meet our demand. The Liberals refuse to let him drill there and so we are forced to buy from the Middle East.
                  I used to have superhuman powers....until my therapist took them away.

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                  • #39
                    Re: Who do you think is gonna run in 2008?

                    Originally posted by Skarhead
                    i know bro... it is all about the $$ , but a real patriot prez would look past the $ and do whats good for the country not his wallet. With the higest respect to the soldiers in Iraq i cant say i would ever join them if i were drafted or enlisted just b/c i dont think my life is worth george bush's agenda.
                    I totally disagree. If the damn Liberals would let him drill for oil in Alaska that would make for hundreds of thouhsands of new jobs. The problem is we don't have enough oil and we deffinately don't have enough refinerys to supply the demand needed here in the US without going into Alaska. But the damn envirornmentalists refuse to let us drill there. Just imagine if every drop of oil we needed could be harvested right here. It would have to be harvested, shipped, refined, then reshipped and sold to the consumer. That's a hell of a lot of people needed. The problem is the Liberals have set limitations on the number of oil drills allowed and the number of oil refinerys alowed. I can guarantee that the Republicans sure as hell didn't put any limitations on these things. Especially Bush, his family knows oil. He would have more to gain drilling here than buying from somewhere else. Period. Alaska is wasted space. The only reason it was purchased was to provide an northwest position of defense. Now that Russia is no threat we need to use Alaska for the resources it provides instead of just sitting on it doing nothing.
                    I used to have superhuman powers....until my therapist took them away.

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                    • #40
                      Re: Who do you think is gonna run in 2008?

                      Originally posted by T-Man007
                      I totally disagree. If the damn Liberals would let him drill for oil in Alaska that would make for hundreds of thouhsands of new jobs. The problem is we don't have enough oil and we deffinately don't have enough refinerys to supply the demand needed here in the US without going into Alaska. But the damn envirornmentalists refuse to let us drill there. Just imagine if every drop of oil we needed could be harvested right here. It would have to be harvested, shipped, refined, then reshipped and sold to the consumer. That's a hell of a lot of people needed. The problem is the Liberals have set limitations on the number of oil drills allowed and the number of oil refinerys alowed. I can guarantee that the Republicans sure as hell didn't put any limitations on these things. Especially Bush, his family knows oil. He would have more to gain drilling here than buying from somewhere else. Period. Alaska is wasted space. The only reason it was purchased was to provide an northwest position of defense. Now that Russia is no threat we need to use Alaska for the resources it provides instead of just sitting on it doing nothing.
                      Very Very good points!

                      They are thinking of changing the boundry lines in Florida to allow drilling off Florida's coast. That is the biggest mistake the government could make! They want to take America's most tropical and widely visited location and turn it into an oil haven. Very stupid! Why don't they just do it in Alaska where almost noone goes. 1 in 50 people might go to Alaska in their life. 50 in 50 will go to Florida! Don't ruin Florida's shores! Use america's wasted Tundra!

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                      • #41
                        Re: Who do you think is gonna run in 2008?

                        Originally posted by T-Man007
                        I totally disagree. If the damn Liberals would let him drill for oil in Alaska that would make for hundreds of thouhsands of new jobs. The problem is we don't have enough oil and we deffinately don't have enough refinerys to supply the demand needed here in the US without going into Alaska. But the damn envirornmentalists refuse to let us drill there. Just imagine if every drop of oil we needed could be harvested right here. It would have to be harvested, shipped, refined, then reshipped and sold to the consumer. That's a hell of a lot of people needed. The problem is the Liberals have set limitations on the number of oil drills allowed and the number of oil refinerys alowed. I can guarantee that the Republicans sure as hell didn't put any limitations on these things. Especially Bush, his family knows oil. He would have more to gain drilling here than buying from somewhere else. Period. Alaska is wasted space. The only reason it was purchased was to provide an northwest position of defense. Now that Russia is no threat we need to use Alaska for the resources it provides instead of just sitting on it doing nothing.
                        Good pts ..


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                        • #42
                          Re: Who do you think is gonna run in 2008?

                          Originally posted by DJDIGGLER
                          Very Very good points!

                          They are thinking of changing the boundry lines in Florida to allow drilling off Florida's coast. That is the biggest mistake the government could make! They want to take America's most tropical and widely visited location and turn it into an oil haven. Very stupid! Why don't they just do it in Alaska where almost noone goes. 1 in 50 people might go to Alaska in their life. 50 in 50 will go to Florida! Don't ruin Florida's shores! Use america's wasted Tundra!
                          I agree 100%. Florida not only is a huge tourist attraction that could be put in jeopardy but the fishing industry would be at risk too. And hello, the phukin huricanse would completely shut down operations during that season and that's all they need is to be right in the middle of a break through, have to cap the drill temporarily and then have the huricane break the cap and all the oil spew out into the ocean. Not a good idea for so many reasons.

                          Alaska! Alaska! Alaska!

                          Do you have any idea what something like this would do to Alaska's economy? It would do wonders. Thousands of people would move there and the locals would receive many great employment opportunities.
                          I used to have superhuman powers....until my therapist took them away.

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