Speration of Church and state

[roark]

Re: Speration of Church and state

Good to know, but what makes you think that what I believe has anything to do with him?

JohnnyB

I was just saying that every court and legal scholar disagrees with you, even the staunchest conservative. Between, the legal community and you, I think they know more. Thats all.

Okay, so thats a small exageration. The vast majority disagree with you. There are plenty of people who hold the same opinion as you. And, thats a good thing. Our government needs that push and pull to keep itself in check.

[roark]

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I have to go but I'll be back later, thanks for all the commentary, I love have these types of discussions.

JohnnyB

This definitely beats working!

[JohnnyB]

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but when the government is trying to govern people of all different backgrounds, religions etc... i don't think the government should look like its backing any religion. i think it should be taken out of the equation completely.

I agree

JohnnyB

[roark]

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I agree

JohnnyB

me too

[edvedr]

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I agree

JohnnyB

lmao. you do? johnny i have a hard time understanding you sometimes

[edvedr]

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This definitely beats working!

oh shit i forgot i was at work

[daved150]

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your right bro, i tend to lump charector in with personality. my bad. so, all christians have the same charactor. and i did not try to imply your charactor dictates your employment, or than all a$$holes would be lawyers. my point was only that these two shared the same value's but where very much there own person's, same core belief's differant people.

[roark]

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all a$$holes would be lawyers.

that is a time-proven truth.

[edvedr]

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roark didn't you go to law school or am i thinking of someone else

[daved150]

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roark didn't you go to law school or am i thinking of someone else

that would explain alot...j/k

[roark]

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roark didn't you go to law school or am i thinking of someone else

yup. and now I am a professional asshole!

[edvedr]

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yup. and now I am a professional asshole!

LOL good for you

[roark]

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LOL good for you

hell no. I should have just been a mechanic. Less hours, more pay, no stupid "ethics."

[stiles]

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I kinda skimed over this thread, did anybody mention Article VI, section 3 contains was is comonlly refered to as the religious test clause: "but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."

The first amendment contains the establishment clause which has been mentioned.

[stiles]

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They don't? So stealing and murder are okay by law in this country. Although they don't turn to the Bible in a court of law, they do have people sware by it. So if the whole Bible can be in the court room, why can't 10 sentences of it be in the court house?

having "false gods before me" sure isn't against the law in the US. 8 of the 10 commandments are not against the law in the US. The "flase gods" commandment would no doubt be a violation of the establishment clause if posted publicly by the government. Unless it was posted with other religions' laws, and even then this is problematic because where does it end.

I've never seen a court use a bible to swear in someone, well except on TV.