Sammy and Barry, Juicers?

[rado]

Originally posted by Friggemall
okay with me, if we include badmitten and chess too?

LMAO....CHESS????


talk about some stress

[Tinfish]

Defenitely using some type of AS. I would very much like to know their stack. I am sure some jackass on Elite can claim that his brothers cousins neighbor sold him his current cycle.

[Plucks]

Originally posted by Friggemall
Sorry Rado but you are wrong on this one. Baseball is an intense sport for the guys that play it I don't care at what level. Go watch a little league game everyone is *****ing and moaning from the kids to the coaches and the crowd. Go to the softball fields sometimes if you wanna see some attitudes. Man you'd think everygame was for the national championship for some guys on some teams. It's the nature of the game not the substance they may or may be taking.

I agree with this 110% i coach a little league team, a girls fast pitch softball team and play on a coed fastpitch softball team and i can tell you that it doesn't matter what level you play at everyone plays like that one game is the biggest game of their life. Especially in little league and the girls softball. I mean I have seen Umps have to leave with police escorts cause parents where going to kill them.

[tinytim]

well......my two cents worth....i dont have any problem with BB players juicing.......i figure more power to ya...no pun intended....
i also do not consider it cheating.......roids doesnot improve on skill and talent.....ya still have to be a great player to hit some tiny thing flying at you at 100mph.....
i also do not think that many pro pitchers juice .....bc too much muscle mass inhibits there throwing.....
my cousin plays pro ball.....hes a pitcher.......they wont let him work out as much as he would like b/c they dont want him getting too big....

[Smokey McPot]

pitchers will juice for leg strength since that's where a lot of the power comes from. additional upper body mass wont benefit much.

[Budlite74]

at least not anymore

[jtrzen]

If anyone had a problem with Baseball players juicing than the same should be said for Bodybuilders. I personally believe one should take advantage of all available resources.

[THE JUICE]

I think they are and I see nothing wrong with that.

[gymrat]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Smokey McPot
[B]pitchers will juice for leg strength since that's where a lot of the power comes from. additional upper body mass wont benefit much.
Exactly my point. I heard that fina helps throw a wicked slider though. lol

[bigpimpc]

Originally posted by YellowJacket
Pitchers have no reason to juice......

bs! in the off season they do! or at least i did.

[YellowJacket]

Originally posted by bigpimpc
bs! in the off season they do! or at least i did.

I dont think you speak for everyone

But there really is no reason to pitchers to juice and I think the majority of them are juice free. The power is generated from the legs.... but power pitching is long gone in todays game, its about placement, changing the pitch speed, etc. Now if you're a closer you want power, but all the MLB closers are relativley small.

[smalls]

I just think its strange how everyone always says that their results are 90 % diet, workout and dedication. But then belittle these guys accomplishments because they juice. They are amazing baseball players, why try to take that away from them.

[pigmeat]

they have no integrity. They are doing something not allowed by the rules they agreed to follow. No less cheating than corking bat.
If the rules allowed the use of aas, then I or most others would be fine with it.

[Plucks]

Originally posted by smalls
I just think its strange how everyone always says that their results are 90 % diet, workout and dedication. But then belittle these guys accomplishments because they juice. They are amazing baseball players, why try to take that away from them.

Like Pigmeat said CAUSE ITS CHEATING. I mean if they x-rayed all of Ruth's bats and they all came out corked there would be an outrage cause its cheating, same thing with Juice untill they allow it in the league you can't do it and it hurts the integrity of the game. If you can't trust that the guys are not juiced how can you trust that they aren't betting on the game or even trying to fix the game. Thats why the integrity of the game is so important if there is no integrity then its just wwf wrestling and they should just say its fake.

[Atlas]

I wouldn't be surprised if there are some pitchers juicing to increase their arm speed.