Canada and The Mad Cow

[Got Gear?]

The problem with testing for it is that there's no non-destructive test. You have to send a brain tissue sample which means killing the cow.

Thousands have been destroyed and samples sent in for testing. In another couple of days Canada will get a good idea of the severity of this.

People are really over-reacting to this IMO. In europe they estimate over 12 million cattle infected with mad cow were sent to slaughter and human consumption between 1980-2000. So far approx 150 people have been diagnosed with the human form. If you estimate 100 beef portions (very conservative estimate) per cow, then you have a 1 in 8 million chance of getting mad cow disease from eating the beef of an infected animal.

I'm hesitant to believe that Mad cow disease can be spread to other animals. I'm going to do some research and see what I can find out.

[m0chi69]

i'll go back and re-read the chapter...

i'm the last person to go around screaming that the sky is falling. it was just interesting to me the way the chapter laid out the potential spread of the disease with the general public more or less clueless.

i think what was more disturbing to me in general was the realization of what was being rendered into feed.

[Got Gear?]

m0chi69: I think what you were reading was a bunch of BS or "Theory".

Check out these two links:

http://www.organicconsumers.org/madcow/jump102201.cfm

http://www.mcspotlight.org/media/television/oprah_transcript.html

They both say nothing about other animals being infected. In fact, they discuss the wisedom of feed animals food rendered from another species. Meaning it hasn't occured yet, but we're "begging for it to happen". The tests they did on mice they had to do with a "mouse version" of a similar disease with a totally different name because they couldn't infect mice with mad cow disease.

[Got Gear?]

Originally posted by m0chi69
i think what was more disturbing to me in general was the realization of what was being rendered into feed.

FYI: America and Canada has a rule/law against feeding cows feed rendered from other cows as well as sheep. As far as all my research has shown me, those are the only 2 animals confirmed to be potential mad cow disease carriers.

[m0chi69]

Originally posted by Got Gear?
Meaning it hasn't occured yet, but we're "begging for it to happen".

i believe that was the point of the chapter.

but essentially - the point being raised that even with new restrictions, enforcement wasn't always at the level it should have been at...

anyway - i'm not trying to debate any point. but... regardles of whether it has happened or not that the disease is in pigs and chickens, it mutated and infected humans, so it's compltely possible that it can mutate and infect pigs and chicken being fed that feed....

ya know what i mean????

[Got Gear?]

Originally posted by m0chi69
i believe that was the point of the chapter.

but essentially - the point being raised that even with new restrictions, enforcement wasn't always at the level it should have been at...

anyway - i'm not trying to debate any point. but... regardles of whether it has happened or not that the disease is in pigs and chickens, it mutated and infected humans, so it's compltely possible that it can mutate and infect pigs and chicken being fed that feed....

ya know what i mean????

I hear ya!

Keep in mind the statistics I showed you before. IE) The 1 in 8million chance of catching the disease from infected beef.

It's my belief that this disease always had the potential to spread to humans. But it wasn't until newer technology and feeding stratagies before the infection spread to a level in which harm to humans was finally noticed. In otherwords, I don't believe this disease has mutated, it's just that the number of infected cows has gotten so high that we're finally starting to notice negative health effects in humans.

[m0chi69]

Originally posted by Got Gear?
I hear ya!

Keep in mind the statistics I showed you before. IE) The 1 in 8million chance of catching the disease from infected beef.

It's my belief that this disease always had the potential to spread to humans. But it wasn't until newer technology and feeding stratagies before the infection spread to a level in which harm to humans was finally noticed. In otherwords, I don't believe this disease has mutated, it's just that the number of infected cows has gotten so high that we're finally starting to notice negative health effects in humans.

they also mentioned that this disease has a fairly long incubation period... meaning that potentially, there could be a lot of non-symptomtic human carriers than we know of.... but since i'm not running around eating human brain, i don't think i have to worry.

anyway, don't worry, i don't think i'm gonna catch it from beef either

[Got Gear?]

Something stupid like 8 years incubation time!

Luckily most cattle get slaughtered at around 40 months. (3.5 years)

Glad your not worried. I had to laugh when I read that Opra transcript and the so called medical professional states that this could turn into a worse epidemic than AIDS. Uhhh.. how do you figure? Pretty sure you've got a worse chance that 1 in 8million of catching aids from unprotected sex with an infected individual.

[pudgy]

what are they mad at ?

[m0chi69]

Originally posted by pudgy
what are they mad at ?

being eaten

[Got Gear?]

Originally posted by pudgy
what are they mad at ?

Fina prices!

[3Vandoo]

ok no one likes my theory

[scorpion]

Originally posted by Got Gear?
Yeah the dude's an idiot.
The only PM Canada's ever had that can't speak EITHER of our national languages properly.

Anyone got that paragraph with the Cretien quote. Goes something about "The proof is in the proof and when we get the proof we'll have the proof." Cept it was way longer and dumber..

LMFAO....at least we don't have Georgy W ....ups did I say that

[3Vandoo]

[TheGame1976]

3 Vandoo, keep that disease in Canada will ya?