PCT Help!!

[mikeyg51]

Ok, I am man enough to admit that I am not well-versed in PCT...I am gonna list my cycle and if you guys/gals could throw out what I should run PCT/peptide-wise, I would greatly appreciate it!!

400mg/week test prop
400 mg/week tren ace
400 mg/week mast prop
100mg/day winny

I typically take HCG and nolvadex...Now, in recent years I read more about caber, letrozole, and others...I don't have much experience with adex either, nor am I too intelligent on the difference between all the compounds and what them all unique, such as suicide-inhibitors...

That being said, what would YOU guys run with this? I am almost 30yrs old, 229, about 11%bf...I have been cycling since I was 17 off and on (i know, dumb to start that young)

Thanks

[bionic redneck]

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hcg and nolva have always worked for me.... but i take caber at .5mg 2 x wk when im runnin tren

[mikeyg51]

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Thanks bionic, I read through that PCT definitions list and was curious about caber....you find that really helps with your libido?

[bionic redneck]

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anytime... and that is true.. helps me alot

[AmericanViking]

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Look into adding clomid as part of you post cycle regime

[sofargone561]

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i use adex during cycle and aromasin and clomid during pct
Clomid 100/100/75/50
Aromasin 25/25/12.5/12.5
and i add in formeron at 1+ pump ED
depending on how long or big (how many compounds and how many mg per compounded) i sometimes lower the doses above. my body is good at telling me when im getting to much or not enough of something. clomid i usually lower sometimes i get bad sides at higher doses.

never ran HCG but i have it on hand

[rdubb07]

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try this for a speedy recovery.
weeks 1-2 nolva 40 mg aromasin 25 mg hcg 5000 iu
weeks 3-4 nolva 20 mg clomid 50 mg

should be pretty as a button after that. trust me ive had my bad times with pct u dont wanna **** with doing it wrong

[Diggler28]

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Standard pct protocol (unless you are running a very long cycle) is 4 weeks 20mg/day nolva and 50mg/day clomid. You can blast hcg the week leading to pct to get a jumpstart if you're not using hcg while on. Don't use and AI, i.e., adex, aromasin, letro, for pct. AI's are meant to be used while on to inhibit the aromatization process to control estrogen. When going through pct you are not using compounds that aromatise so all you will do is smash your estro, which is what you don't want to do.

[scottydont1488]

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I have seen aromisin added to many protocols lately, I believe the though behind it is estrogen rebound. I can't really see how it helps your healing process, but it should help level out your levels for a bit.

[mikeyg51]

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I am incredibly grateful for everyone's input...I feel elementary with regard to PCT regardless of the years of experience i have on cycle. It's just one of those areas in which new compounds come out quite frequently and I get lost in the process...

I guess if it ain't broke, don't fix it: so i will do the clomid/nolva/hcg....I used to run alot of EQ and Deca but switched to more quicker acting esters as of late...would adex be sought after for a cycle like I listed above, the tren/prop/mast and winny one??

[Ezskanken]

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Sofargone laid out a well used PCT, simple, yet effective.

[rdubb07]

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Aromasin is the only ai I recommend as part of a pct it has plenty of studies showing it will kick start ur lh production on top of eliminate the estro rebound.

[Diggler28]

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Aromasin is the only ai I recommend as part of a pct it has plenty of studies showing it will kick start ur lh production on top of eliminate the estro rebound.

Its often suggested that an AI should be used for PCT since it increases LH production. This is both true and false. While AIs do cause a response in increased LH production, they do so by reducing estrogen production. Now, when going into pct, your estrogen is already limited to non-existant as well as there is no real high amounts of intratesticular testosterone production which means, there is nothing to prevent the conversion to. So at this point, AIs are relatively useless. Not to mention that you WANT estrogen rebound at this point, as its in correlation with natural test production which lead to several health benefits and recovery benefits. Not to mention they only achieve a 40-70% increase in test levels were SERMs can generate 3x that amount of increase. Several suggest that by limiting estrogen you cause the negative feedback loop, etc.. This is true, and false again. You only need to prevent estrogen from binding to receptors of the hypothalamus, pituitary gland and testicular receptors. Anywhere else in the body has no effect on negative feebdack as they are localized responses and not systemic. The blocking of these receptors occur through the use of SERMs alone which not only block the receptor, but also signal the hypo to acknowledge the receptor has been activated, but no estrogen is present which causes a faster response than just no estrogen at all attaching.